Going to get Duron maybe today, question

[The_Ryz_Factor]

OK I am planning on (keyword: planning on, plans never happen for me :)) going to buy a Duron 700 or maybe 800 today from my local little nice computer shop, and I was wondering if Durons do a 133 FSB. If they don't should I just buy PC 100 ram, or just go with the 133 DDR stuff? Also, what brand names of ram are quality stuff?

One last question :D, would the ASUS A7V133 mobo be a good choice? ;)

Thanks.

The_Ryz_Factor

[Pitspawn]

Get a Duron 800. After that the price rockets upwards. They all do almost the same speed after o/c anyway (~1.00-1.05Ghz).

Get 133Mhz RAM. Its sooooooo cheap that you would be mad not to. The performance benefits are staggering too. Also it gives you a bucket load of space to overclock through FSB if you dont run at 133. If you do run at 133 and you overclock through FSB, get some good stuff. Preferably Crucial, PQP (I think this is how you spell it) or if you want the best get Tonicom. Crucial is by far the best value for speed and overclockability. Mine does like 155Mhz easy with CAS-2 and it cost me £42 (128Mb)

That mobo is ok btw. Some may argue that one though. I like Abit boards myself. Oh and the Epox coz its just so gooood.

[FRANK]

DURON's will run on a 133MHz and beyond FSB provided your motherboard will support those speeds. The DURON is identical to a T-BIRD other then the Cache, with the DURON performing comparable to the T-BIRD in many applications and benchmarks, not to mention beating the PIII in most. As a matter of fact, the DURON runs quite well on the new DDR boards as well.

If you stay with the established major brands of memory, you should have no problems. Chances are if you are running a DURON, cost is an issue, therefore your peripherals will probably be your limiting factors. I've used Crucial, Micron and PNY myself and have hit my limit when the hard drive, NIC, video card or some other device got in the way.

The ASUS A7V133 is a very good choice although there are some other options available now with the newer, refined technology on the latest boards.

Good Luck!

Research, the key to a successful overclocking experience!

[Stormwind]

I have a situation like you too!

I think I'd go for the A7V 133-C since in my local stores it's more cheaper and there is hardly any difference between the 2!

As for the RAM if you're going to overclock, then get PC 133 Ram.

The only question which I can't answer myself as well is whether to get the Duron 800. It's pretty cheap right now but I'm still unsure whether it's too slow for programs and games nowadays!

(Be warned that this is newbie advice. So don't completely believe everything I say here)

BTW I want to know some good stable boards which has good OC capabilities such as 1 mhz increasements!

[Carmine_Paterno]

Just take a look at the sig.

My duron 750 flys! Im soo happy my A7A266 will take high fsb's. Only now...if my ram could LoL....

Never skimp on the ram.

[ken257]

I see no problem with the Duron 800 in games. Don't forget there is a good chance you will hit 1 gig with it to. Also remember that this is the range that Intel P3's are in, most have 800mhz-1gig systems and they game fine.

[The_Ryz_Factor]

OK I just want to get everything clear here for me since I am not the most knowledgable computer guy. ;) Now I am probably gonna get a Duron 800 now that sounds good, good price too. That thing, as we said before can do a 133 FSB, and thus making it a 266 FSB, is that right? And if it can do that 266 FSB, then can I use some 133 Mhz DDR ram, thus making it 266 Mhz? The ASUS A7V133 mobo description says it has 3 DIMMs, and also can have either a 200 or 266 Mhz FSB. So to me that means the answers to my questions are yes. But I would like clarification from the pros here on these message boards. :)

Thanks again.

The_Ryz_Factor

[FRANK]

The_Ryz_Factor (Jul 28, 2001 02:28 p.m.):
OK I just want to get everything clear here for me since I am not the most knowledgable computer guy. ;) Now I am probably gonna get a Duron 800 now that sounds good, good price too. That thing, as we said before can do a 133 FSB, and thus making it a 266 FSB, is that right? And if it can do that 266 FSB, then can I use some 133 Mhz DDR ram, thus making it 266 Mhz? The ASUS A7V133 mobo description says it has 3 DIMMs, and also can have either a 200 or 266 Mhz FSB. So to me that means the answers to my questions are yes. But I would like clarification from the pros here on these message
boards. :)

Thanks again.

The_Ryz_Factor

You're close with one misconception that needs clarified.

The original K7 line of CPU'S from AMD up to the current ones were designed to double the number of processes per clock cycle. This is done independently of the PCI bus and the RAM, these as well as all other components in your system operate at one process per clock cycle.

That being said, it brings us up to the current state of motherboard technology (at least on the AMD side of things). The newest chipsets support this same technology for the memory, this would be DDR RAM also doubling the number of processes per clock cycle, again independent of the CPU.

I'm neither a teacher nor engineer and I'm having a bit of a problem relating this in simpler terms (maybe somebody else can do a better job later).

To make it simple, check with the motherboard manufacturer to see exactly what memory is supported on that particular board.

I guess that after being involved with AMD CPU's during this confusing situation and staying abreast of the changes as they occurred, some of us don't realize how confusing this really is.

I currently have both PC133 SDRAM and DDR PC2100 systems up and running and think that I would have to recommend you stay with the PC133 variety at this time due to the due to the unsure future of the standards of DDR technology. You're not going to suffer too much in the performance area.

I also have an A7V133 motherboard and am very pleased with it. There are some others available that perform in the same range and would be good choices as well. Keep in mind that there's an issue with the original VIA KT133 chipset. This chipset generally doesn't support FSB's much above the 107 / 110 MHz range. This was addressed and remedied with the KT133A chipset, available on the second generation boards.

I hope this doesn't confuse you more.

Good Luck!

Research, the key to a successful overclocking experience!