View Full Version : [SOLVED] AXIA TBIRD at 2.086 GHZ This is real proof! Not like the previous Duron post at 1.62 GHZ
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184766
Click on the link and you will see
Notice the multiple screenshots showing proof that in fact this computer is running at 2.086 GHZ! Unlike the Duron at 1.62 GHZ HAHAHAH BS
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SHOWING PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
click on the link up top for more screen shots!
TranceBear
07-31-01, 05:01 PM
This is getting out of hand, if all ya gonna do is rag on our senior members, there are other web sites that would welcome you. We do not need this kind of crap here. I think I speak for a mojority of the people here, we are a like a family here, not an episode of Jerry Springer.
SickBoy
07-31-01, 05:08 PM
Yeah, this is rather uncalled for. If you have a problem with Mr. Cotterill I suggest you take it up with him. His Duron that he got to 1.62 GHz was a pre-production sample Morgan core - not the Spitfire core that current production Durons are. I, frankly, believe him but it's up to you whether you believe it or not. You just lost my respect - you took it to a personal level. If you dont believe him thats fine but for the sake of general order, please dont tear in to him. If everyone did this this forum would be a useless flame war board and I don't think any regular patrons of the forum want to see that. I'm not a senior member but consider yourself warned.
SickBoy
UnseenMenace
07-31-01, 06:11 PM
Have you seen that PC in real life?.. That is a blurry screen shot and as such can be faked it is no more proof than anything else displayed in a picture on this Forum including Andys Duron (which I believe). I realise that you wish to believe this and not Andys and that is your right.. but lets face it, we have to take things with a bit of faith here, and this includes advice and peoples claims. Considering that I have obtained good advice from Andy in the past and am aware of what he can obtain. I choose to believe him although I am aware that neither his pic or a blurry screen shot is 100% proof
A thread concerning this very computer was started a while back.
http://forums.overclockers.ws/forums/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=2&TID=26736&SID=131036
Lets all post at the origional thread, and keep things on the topic, rather than having another pointless debate about whos got photoshop
UnseenMenace
07-31-01, 06:26 PM
[oc]SickBoy (Jul 31, 2001 05:08 p.m.):
Yeah, this is rather uncalled for. If you have a problem with Mr. Cotterill I suggest you take it up with him. His Duron that he got to 1.62 GHz was a pre-production sample Morgan core - not the Spitfire core that current production Durons are. I, frankly, believe him but it's up to you whether you believe it or not. You just lost my respect - you took it to a personal level. If you dont believe him thats fine but for the sake of general order, please dont tear in to him. If everyone did this this forum would be a useless flame war board and I don't think any regular patrons of the forum want to see that. I'm not a senior member but consider yourself warned.
SickBoy
Could not be said better
GuNRocK
07-31-01, 08:43 PM
Have u checked there fourm with the thread there is more pictures.....and one with the monitor and that pic i dont believe it can be faked at that level...i think a standard screen shot has a bigger possiblity of being faked then a shot with a Digital camera.....by the way the duron @1.62Ghz is awsome and this athlon takes the cake for the highest ever overclocked cpu....both ppl are extreme overclockers thats requires time and money to make watercoolers and other stuff....i will never do something like that....i just like getting a little bit mroe outa my cpu with my current set up..... i hate it when ppl critisize the extreme overclockers its has a luck factor to it that u will get the best cpu produced and your skill and knowldge....if u wana diss those ppl u dont realy belong here..u should be respecting what there doing i nkow i respect them ALOT...
I don't want to get in on the is it real controversy, (I have no reason to believe it's not), but isn't it possible to doctor a screen shot, display it on the monitor and then shoot it with a camera?
This is unnecessary. There's already a thread about the 2 ghz o/c, and you started this one to bring up an argument that caused the original Morgan thread to be locked.
[oc]SickBoy (Jul 31, 2001 05:08 p.m.):
Yeah, this is rather uncalled for. If you have a problem with Mr. Cotterill I suggest you take it up with him. His Duron that he got to 1.62 GHz was a pre-production sample Morgan core - not the Spitfire core that current production Durons are. I, frankly, believe him but it's up to you whether you believe it or not. You just lost my respect - you took it to a personal level. If you dont believe him thats fine but for the sake of general order, please dont tear in to him. If everyone did this this forum would be a useless flame war board and I don't think any regular patrons of the forum want to see that. I'm not a senior member but consider yourself warned.
SickBoy
Well said!
UnseenMenace
08-01-01, 04:10 AM
GuNRocK (Jul 31, 2001 08:43 p.m.):
Have u checked there fourm with the thread there is more pictures.....and one with the monitor and that pic i dont believe it can be faked at that level...i think a standard screen shot has a bigger possiblity of being faked then a shot with a Digital camera.....by the way the duron @1.62Ghz is awsome and this athlon takes the cake for the highest ever overclocked cpu....both ppl are extreme overclockers thats requires time and money to make watercoolers and other stuff....i will never do something like that....i just like getting a little bit mroe outa my cpu with my current set up..... i hate it when ppl critisize the extreme overclockers its has a luck factor to it that u will get the best cpu produced and your skill and knowldge....if u wana diss those ppl u dont realy belong here..u should be respecting what there doing i nkow i respect them ALOT...
I guess that my comments could be understood to be critical however it was not intended to be so. I am in awe of anyone who attempts such an overclock and rather than state that anyone is not telling the truth, I was attempting to point out that we must take this type of imformation in good faith in the same manner as we take advice in good faith. I clearly used a bad example but wished to point out that any picture does not provide proof and rather than be critical of anyones claim I just wished to point out that there has been pictures of apparent Alien space craft and Elvis shopping in K-Mart, while these prove the possibility they do not provide proof and I view pictures of large overclocks in the same way.
It really makes no difference to me however I would enjoy the debate on a high overclock, but I do consider calling other Forum users liers or suggesting BS to be a negative thing as no one can prove they are, and this was what I was trying to point out... Everything is possible and everything could be possibly faked, make up your own minds and ask questions if you doubt the claim, but dont insult other people.
I think that Me should win an award....waste of bandwidth award for posting that pic!
el (Aug 01, 2001 05:50 a.m.):
I think that Me should win an award....waste of bandwidth award for posting that pic!
ROFL! ???
You are so right!
Pitspawn
08-01-01, 08:57 AM
When are people going to learn, its easy to fake your frequency. I could EASILY fake my computer to be a 3Ghz in sisoft, 3dmk2k1 AND not just screenshot it but actually photo it. Ever heard of photo applications fullscreen display? I have several programs that can display just a 1024x768 (or whatever desktop res is) image on the screen until you press a key.
I believe andys post. His is one of the few that I do. He actually has a photograph of the morgan chip. Thats enough evidence for me.
oc jason
08-01-01, 09:03 AM
TranceBear (Jul 31, 2001 05:01 p.m.):
This is getting out of hand, if all ya gonna do is rag on our senior members, there are other web sites that would welcome you. We do not need this kind of crap here. I think I speak for a mojority of the people here, we are a like a family here, not an episode of Jerry Springer.
What is the problem man-have you not seen andy's web page, do u not know who he is of what he can do? He sas some insane hookups over there, he gets tons of stuff not available to the public yet-like his nforce board, and other stuff, that was a morgan Duron not a Spitfire-its a whold different core. Whats the big deal we make tbird hit over 1.6 and everyone buys it but a Duro at 1.6 why is that so hard to believe
SickBoy
08-01-01, 12:36 PM
[OC] Jason (Aug 01, 2001 09:03 a.m.):
Whats the big deal we make tbird hit over 1.6 and everyone buys it but a Duro at 1.6 why is that so hard to believe
well, it's not that I don't believe Andy can get his Morgan to 1.6 GHz (I do believe that), but for the sake of playing Devil's Advocate, 1.6 GHz for a Spitfire core WOULD be unbelievable. I haven't seen or heard of a Spitfire going any higher than the 1250-1300 MHz range (even that high is kinda rare and requires voltmodding and watercooling). The core just simply isn't capable of that. It makes sense that the Morgans will be able to go that high - the Spitfires came out at 600, 650 and 700 MHz initially. That core is going all the way to 1 GHz, possibly higher. Thats a 400 MHz range, but look at the range for TBirds - all the way from 650 to 1.4(maybe higher)(talking rated speeds, of course). It wouldn't surprise me for Morgan to start at 1.1 and go all the way to 1.8 or 1.9 before AMD's next value processor comes out. But once again, Me didn't really take the time to consider what he was doing or even what he was talking about, he just needed a little more information.
SickBoy
oc jason
08-01-01, 12:54 PM
you DO know that andy DID use a Morgan, and you yourself said that maybe a Morgan can do it but not a Spitfire- well he didnt use a spitfire.
Carmine_Paterno
08-01-01, 01:55 PM
I don't think that YOU with such a lack of experience ( 335 posts) shouldn't be saying that andy (wild_andy_c), Is a lying Bser. He has like 8 time the posts you have, with all the knowledge to back it up. Thats right, he was using a pre-production Morgan core.
If you still think he is lying, and what have you....why don't you go take a look at his website. HERE
www.wildandyc.co.uk and then you tell me he is not a overclocker but a lyer. He had a screenshot of sandra. Go take a look at the post.
If all your gonna do is start trouble on this forum, i think you should go elsewhere.
SickBoy
08-01-01, 02:52 PM
[OC] Jason (Aug 01, 2001 12:54 p.m.):
you DO know that andy DID use a Morgan, and you yourself said that maybe a Morgan can do it but not a Spitfire- well he didnt use a spitfire.
Yeah I know that, but what I was saying is that maybe Me didn't know that....
SickBoy
UnseenMenace
08-01-01, 05:34 PM
I decided to just prove a point and show that there is software available which creates fake benchmark scores.
Heres my aircooled Duron benchmarks using the cheat (also pictured below the benchmarks), would it be more belivable if I got out my webcam and took a picture ?.. pick a benchmark, any benchmark and how you would like it and I will fake it without photoshop!!!
This is my very point, look at these claims objectively and make up your own mind, I have my view and it may differ from yours however calling other people liers does nothing for the forum..
If anyone believes my benchmarks.. I would like to point out that I have a Duron for sale that can go as fast as you want on air cooling, pick a speed I have benchmarks.. hehe, actually its only ever hit 1050 mhz
Rob Cork
08-01-01, 05:49 PM
Any answer from 'Me'? Cmon, you can retract your accusation if you like - clearly Andy has a lot of support here, I don't think you're going to change anybody's mind.
Just remember, absence of proof is not proof of absence. I could have a duron at a gig, but if I don't take any benchmarks of it does it make it any less true? I know the point's been made before, but I don't think Andy is making an outrageous claim - who's to say a Morgan can't hit 1.6gig? No-one else (AFAIK) has had a chance to find out yet :)
Bobby Manus
08-01-01, 05:50 PM
Ok so now we cant belive anyone... Grrreat ..... This is starting to sound like counterstrike and wall hacks :-|
UnseenMenace
08-01-01, 05:54 PM
Dont get me wrong I was NOT trying to dispute anyone achievements let alone Andys which I personally believe, I was just attempting to point out that we must show a little bit of faith in what others tell us and insulting people you do not believe is not good
I would also like to point out that I will NOT tell people what the program is or where to obtain it from and I will not send it to other people.
My belief is that if their is not any good screen shots or benchmarks to backup a superior overclock i.e one fuzzy screen shot, then i wont believe it and that is how i always felt with anything in today society.
I wont drag this on anymore
I said it before in another post, and I will say it now. We really need a benchmark, unaffected by the speed cheat, that gives secure (encrypted) results.
UnseenMenace
08-01-01, 07:46 PM
sfa ok (Aug 01, 2001 07:36 p.m.):
I said it before in another post, and I will say it now. We really need a benchmark, unaffected by the speed cheat, that gives secure (encrypted) results.
I agree with you
Ok Guys thats enough. We get it. You all belive andy, I included, and because ME over-reacted you all have to as well. All I have to say is that whole thing is out of control. At some point we just have to trust each other. 2.08 Ghz with extreme cooling and and a voltage mod is probably possible if you got a good processor. Especially if it is possibily a AHYJAR or something. So, Congrats ME, but the debate with Andy is over.
Amedeo602
08-01-01, 08:06 PM
For the record, this topic's name should be edited IMO because it construes that Andy didn't have any proof. It seems to me that andy had as much proof as "me".
And off the record, aren't we all here to share a common interest? "Me", if you don't feel that andy is telling the truth, then you have a perfect right to convey your feelings. But your previous post along with the title of this topic makes it look (to me at least) like you consider him to be an outright liar. If he is, (emphasis on the IF )then what benefit does he gain from lying to everyone? All this would give him is respect, and it looks to me like he's earned a lot of that already and wouldn't need to lie about an overclock. I believe andy did achieve this overclock, just like I believe you. Why? Anything's possible. Sure, I would doubt a 3 ghz CPU, but it's possible . Maybe not posible to 99.9% of people, but all it takes is one good chip and a lot of luck to get a good speed. Another reason I believe? I want to tell myself that it IS possible.
"Can't we all just get along??
--Anon
hmm ....i think i have a simple sulotion to this problem i would say that ME gets a great deal of satisfaction buy posting a thread and getting the rest of you guys to respond.. the best cure .....dont respond to ME`s posts ;D
Carmine_Paterno (Aug 01, 2001 01:55 p.m.):
I don't think that YOU with such a lack of experience ( 335 posts) shouldn't be saying that andy (wild_andy_c), Is a lying Bser. He has like 8 time the posts you have, with all the knowledge to back it up. Thats right, he was using a pre-production Morgan core.
If you still think he is lying, and what have you....why don't you go take a look at his website. HERE
www.wildandyc.co.uk and then you tell me he is not a overclocker but a lyer. He had a screenshot of sandra. Go take a look at the post.
If all your gonna do is start trouble on this forum, i think you should go elsewhere.
I for one believed andy's post about a Duron 1.6gig OC. Does that mean that it didn't happen because I have even less posts than "Me"? Keep in mind that anyone could go get some yutz and have said yutz sit in front of a computer posting post after post of crap until they hit the 500 or 1000 or 500,000 mark it still wouldn't mean they knew anything. I think andy's posts are valuable because what's in them, not how many of them there are. Try to relax Carmine, if "Me" is a fool then just leave him to his own devices, he won't need your help, he'll prove he's a fool all by himself (and you won't suffer a stroke). Most of the statements and replys made by those who frequent this forum have shown me that these people are, by and large, capable of seeing such shallow attacks for what they are and judge them, and those who post them, accordingly.
Everyone take a slow, deep breath... exhale... and relax.
el (Aug 01, 2001 05:50 a.m.):
I think that Me should win an award....waste of bandwidth award for posting that pic!
Yes El you should win an award because you just stated it to yourself!
haha
[oc]SickBoy (Aug 01, 2001 02:52 p.m.):
[OC] Jason (Aug 01, 2001 12:54 p.m.):
you DO know that andy DID use a Morgan, and you yourself said that maybe a Morgan can do it but not a Spitfire- well he didnt use a spitfire.
Yeah I know that, but what I was saying is that maybe Me didn't know that....
SickBoy
I do know and i dont believe
WillysNut
08-01-01, 09:45 PM
I thought WCPUID by H.Oda had a serial number feature that was unique per processor....down at the bottom right corner (3096E38F). Has it been cracked? Can it be fudged? I see a lot of Sandra benchmarks but I never see CPUID...why? see attached...
eobard (Aug 01, 2001 09:12 p.m.):
Carmine_Paterno (Aug 01, 2001 01:55 p.m.):
I don't think that YOU with such a lack of experience ( 335 posts) shouldn't be saying that andy (wild_andy_c), Is a lying Bser. He has like 8 time the posts you have, with all the knowledge to back it up. Thats right, he was using a pre-production Morgan core.
If you still think he is lying, and what have you....why don't you go take a look at his website. HERE
www.wildandyc.co.uk and then you tell me he is not a overclocker but a lyer. He had a screenshot of sandra. Go take a look at the post.
If all your gonna do is start trouble on this forum, i think you should go elsewhere.
I for one believed andy's post about a Duron 1.6gig OC. Does that mean that it didn't happen because I have even less posts than "Me"? Keep in mind that anyone could go get some yutz and have said yutz sit in front of a computer posting post after post of crap until they hit the 500 or 1000 or 500,000 mark it still wouldn't mean they knew anything. I think andy's posts are valuable because what's in them, not how many of them there are. Try to relax Carmine, if "Me" is a fool then just leave him to his own devices, he won't need your help, he'll prove he's a fool all by himself (and you won't suffer a stroke). Most of the statements and replys made by those who frequent this forum have shown me that these people are, by and large, capable of seeing such shallow attacks for what they are and judge them, and those who post them, accordingly.
Everyone take a slow, deep breath... exhale... and relax.
Obviously you didnt read my previous post that i was not going to drag this on further. You can call me whatever you want but i am not here to snoop down to you immature level of name calling.
Anyway i just wanted to prove a point AND I DID that their wasnt any proof of that duron except one pic that could be false. Also about the T-bird at 2 ghz which i would believe more since it was posted on the main page of amdzone.com and plus the person who overclocked the cpu gave mulitple screenshots of benchmarks.
Another point i have to make if this was such big news about the duron why wouldnt overclockers.com post it on the main page? Maybe because they think its tottally bogus since mr Andy has never gave system specs or multiple screen shots off benchmarks. Plus whenever someone tried to inquire about the duron and how his setup was to hit 1.6gighertz Andy would try to aviod or wouldnt tell anyone how he did it and refused to reply with a normal answer but would give a BS reply .
[img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"][img="http://"]
Newbie_Doo
08-02-01, 12:33 AM
Enough is enough. This forum does not tolerate flames from anyone, at any time. Some harsh things are being said here and it will cease. Like any debate, when the credibility of the debater is put into question, then no amount of support from partisans will likely sway the opinion.
Whether we believe Andy, or ME, or anybody else who makes or uncovers a claim that is to the edge or beyond isn't the issue here. Whether we are able to debate the topic on its merits, politely, is.
Time to make nice everybody, OK?
Anthony
Stupid double post! See below. Thats two I owe the system! Thank you ladies and gentlemen! For my next mistake I will attempt to perform surgery!!!! Any volunteers???
Ok by me, I prefer it that way. And for the record "Me" I wasn't calling you anything, I was just trying to keep Carmine_Paterno from blowing a gasket. You're free to take my words any way you want, just so you know, they were not meant as an attack.
ReTiCuLeX
08-02-01, 01:38 AM
Lets all stop fighting like children , Don't discredit some one for not having enough screen shots or proof of there overclock they are just happy that they achieved the overclock and post or they are just bsing to have a big ego but you can't really discredit some one till you actually saw all the proof I mean I could have a comp @ 2.5Ghz and just post it doesn't mean I dont have it.Me all do respect man but I think wildandy did achieve 1.62Ghz with his duron I mean after all hes a creditable guy and stuff.I saw the overclock of 2.0Ghz its nice and the guy did alot to get his point across that he achieved 2Ghz , by taking photos with a real camera etc...
I NO ARGU NO MORE> I GO POTTY NOW, YOU GO WIT ME. WHO GIVES A S_ _ T!!!!! I HAVE A TB 600 AT 3300 SO WHAT!!!!!
ReTiCuLeX
08-02-01, 03:31 AM
Is yours a Y stepping AYHJA 1.4 or K stepping cause i cant go past 1.53Ghz
The Stickie
08-02-01, 03:50 AM
If it's true, the guy who reaches 2 Ghz has right to be proud. But anyone else has the right to believe or no to. What does it matters wether it is true? The benifit off the fast cpu is for the one who has it, isn't it? So if it isn't true, the only benefit he has is to **** you guys of...
Why not "let it be"?
I personnaly have no clue about wether it is tru or not, but to be honest, my cpu is what counts, not his...
Sure you can. Its all in the Voltage VS FSB VS MULT. It just takes alot of screwin with. I Ran at 1400 w/ 2.07 V for a day under a load(PRIME95 AND Q2LOOP) then jumped up the cpu to 1606. It started locking with both benchmarks running so I backed up the V to 2.0 and the unit dropped 9degrees. Also I have done some awesome case mods. I had space behind my mobo tray to cut holes for 2 delta tubro 60mm fans to cool the mobo behind the cpu. My mobo temps went from 94 to 83.
M@€$†®Ö™
08-02-01, 04:03 AM
I do not see the point of all the flameing. If he posts he got a nice overclock ice overclock and ask questions and get over it. That is my take on it. 2 pennies dropped in the can on the way out.
Maestro
ok like i said earlier i will not drag this on further!
Ok now lets see who replies and still wants to continue this post
lol
M@€$†®Ö™
08-02-01, 09:08 AM
Not me ! :D I think this thread is good to go :)
Maestro
Carmine_Paterno
08-02-01, 09:13 AM
I would just like to say that i am sorry for being so upset.
I thought i killed my duron again, and punched a hole in the sheetrock. But it is still working as we speak!
Me, I am sorry, and to everyone else who had to read what i said. I wasn't thinking straight, and upset.
Once again I am SORRY.
Amedeo602
08-02-01, 09:20 AM
Maestro (Aug 02, 2001 04:03 a.m.):
2 pennies dropped in the can on the way out.
Maestro
Thanks for the donation, very well said! (I'm 2 cents closer to a geforce3....) :)
Carmine_Paterno (Aug 02, 2001 09:13 a.m.):
I would just like to say that i am sorry for being so upset.
I thought i killed my duron again, and punched a hole in the sheetrock. But it is still working as we speak!
Me, I am sorry, and to everyone else who had to read what i said. I wasn't thinking straight, and upset.
Once again I am SORRY.
That kind of thing is very understandable, we all have bad days.
Personally I really dont care who got their processor to what speed. All that matters is what your system does and if you are satisified with it.
wild_andy_c
08-03-01, 12:34 AM
RëTíÇûLéX (Aug 02, 2001 03:31 a.m.):
Is yours a Y stepping AYHJA 1.4 or K stepping cause i cant go past 1.53Ghz
RëTíÇûLéX - I saw in your signature that you have the rev 1.1 8K7A - I don't recall one being manufactured - you sure its not the 1.0
ReTiCuLeX
08-03-01, 07:00 PM
Yup im sure andy its 1.1 I just looked at my motherboard it says in White Rev 1.1 =-) dude im woried my +5 voltage is 4.73 and it goes as low as 4.61 under load. Iam geting random reboots and lockups now. My temps are shooting to 49c under full load. Is this all ok ?
killem1x1
08-03-01, 08:55 PM
I have read this thread every time a new post was made, just to see how this community is reacting, but this is all fairly simple to myself, and a few friends.
If you have an awesome overclock, you are the only person that honestly knows.
If I faked an OC, then I would not be an O'cer, plain and simple. It would be like cheating at a game and getting away with it. You know you didn't win, so how could you ever be a "winner".
'nuff said ;)
Newbie_Doo
08-04-01, 09:15 AM
Amedeo602 (Aug 01, 2001 08:06 p.m.):
"Can't we all just get along??
--Anon
Actually, that quote was by that Venerable American Philosopher, Mr. Rodney King of the Los Angeles Riots fame. His 15 minutes are over.
I think this thread has run its course and I am locking it.
vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.