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quake8
08-01-01, 08:34 AM
intel is 100x better

ive had a 800eb cusl2 intel cpu p3
1.2ddr t-bird
p4 1.4

p4 is 100x better then the AMD and is far faster with better chipset support, all around drivers

Bhunta
08-01-01, 09:28 AM
That's why an AMD Athlon MP 1.2GHz outperforms a P4 1.5GHz and the new PIII 1.2GHz Tualitans in virtually every benchmark
Take a look (http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1509&p=1) if you don't believe me. Thanks.

oc jason
08-01-01, 09:42 AM
are you blind...j/k but really wht do you mean an AMD out perfoms any intel cpu except in memory-in Sisandra my tbird 750 does the same as a p3 igig chip-and when i set it to 900 is smokes the p4, it dont look as if you did you rsearch Einstein

Hugo 59
08-01-01, 09:58 AM
There is no need to have this post here unless you are trying to start a flame war and that doesn't happen here. If you feel the need to debate this please post it in the debate section.

My 2¢

Have a nice day.

el
08-01-01, 10:00 AM
quake8 (Aug 01, 2001 08:34 a.m.):
intel is 100x better

ive had a 800eb cusl2 intel cpu p3
1.2ddr t-bird
p4 1.4

p4 is 100x better then the AMD and is far faster with better chipset support, all around drivers

Do you enjoy your Compaq? llama think before you post. nobody will support you and nobody has to prove that the P4 is a crippled chip. okay it is fastest in Q3 and by your name that is all you care about so shut up and welcome to the FORUMS :-)

thefly
08-01-01, 10:04 AM
He's just a young fellow cutting his teeth.

12 years old.

eobard
08-01-01, 11:48 AM
Bhunta (Aug 01, 2001 09:28 a.m.):
That's why an AMD Athlon MP 1.2GHz outperforms a P4 1.5GHz and the new PIII 1.2GHz Tualitans in virtually every benchmark
Take a look (http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1509&p=1) if you don't believe me. Thanks.

Ditto from me here! Also its nice to see that when one person thows a match on the gasoline we all don't go up in flames.

Placid
08-01-01, 11:54 AM
I think they should have not used a ddr board for comparison but a sdram as that would have made for a better cpu comparison with less influence on the motherboard.

!-=sky=-!
08-01-01, 11:58 AM
lucky kid........gets to have a p4, athlon, and a 800eb.......

i wish i can get those too....hehe
but the cash i have on hand doesnt allow that kind of equipment....

Random Nonsense
08-01-01, 12:13 PM
oh this is funny.

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-01-01, 01:32 PM
Give the kid a break, You can't expect him to know much more than how to use his mac.

Me
08-01-01, 01:45 PM
My story about the P3 CPU,I remember when i first upgraded to a P3 550 from a AMD k62 400 about 2 years ago. Anyway i brought that p3 550 home and played unreal T right away on my voodoo 3 and let me tell you it was slow as molasses. I took that abit be6 100mhz bus motherboard and shoved it right up the sales man butt 4 days later at the store. I returned it and bought a GI-7IX slot A 600mhz Classic which was freaken cheaper than that PIII crap CPU. Played Unreal again and it was so much much much much much faster!!!!!! then i finally believed that AMD was the true computer for me.

Present Day
I still own that GI-7IX motherboard and recently just bought a slot A -T-bird 900 256k cache and got my self a nice GFD for 22 bucks off ebay and now its running at 1000mhz and this chip only cost me 130 bucks 7 months ago. 100 percent stable and right now my computer is faster than the p4 1.2 ghz and faster than the p3 1000mhz.
I think i might just totally skip the kt133a chipset and get me the aseus kt266 chipset which is alittle bit faster than the 760 chipset

I dont understand why they sell those crap p4 systems at all the retail stores i.e compaq ,

quake8
08-01-01, 02:16 PM
I don't care if you are new here, if you havn't noticed we don't tolerate language like that in the forums, pay attention. No flaming and no profanity are our top concerns. No one is to be made to feel uncomfortable here.

Consider this your only warning.

Shadow ÒÓ

oc jason
08-01-01, 02:23 PM
that is the best thing you can do to get banned is talk liek that. No we dont all believe in benchmarks. I have a celeron 800-with pc100 mem, and a slot tbird 750 with pc100 mem-basically the only difference is that the intel celle is 50mhz faster. I cannot even stand to work on the celeron, after using the amd-the 800 celeron is way slower then my 750 tbird.ya maybe the ondie cache has a little to do with it but its liek night and day--even opening my cpnuter on the celle take like 2-3 seconds- with the tbird i dont wait on anything- o and guess what the celle benches lower.

macky
08-01-01, 02:24 PM
my my such language.tisk tisk. If your gonna always talk like that we might have to do sumthin about it. we dont tolerate that kinda language and flaming here. Otherwise you might as well take it someplace else.

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-01-01, 04:17 PM
You guys: we forgot to welcome him to the forums.

Welcome to the forums quake8. If you want to have a debate on intel vs amd; post in the debates thread. In the futor please don't post somthing like: amd sux, in the amd cpu's. just informing you on some rules, and enjoy your stay here at oc.com

Wega!
08-01-01, 04:21 PM
Would71 (Aug 01, 2001 03:01 p.m.):

OK, now that I got that off my chest, could we get a moderator in here to clean up the spilled milk, please? :D

The big D is on his way....

Bobby Manus
08-01-01, 04:33 PM
I wouldnt look at 3dmark 2k1 as a cpu benchmark at all... Graphics card performance can very from board to board... You will have a hard time convincing me a p3 1.2 can beat a 1.5 athlon with just graphics card benchmark...

UnseenMenace
08-01-01, 05:08 PM
Wow this thread has gotten out of hand and perhaps needs some restraint, I would however like to point out to quake8 that I am not an crazy illigitamate child and I also have employment and finaces which would allow me to buy a Pentium 4 if I so wished. Some of your comments are offensive and I would respect you a great deal more if you toned them down in future and remember that we have users from all age groups in this forum

You may clearly see that the P4 is clearly faster as you state, but what I see is it that its clearly overpriced where I live. The AMD range of processors has increased the choice for consumers and effected intel pricing, competition is good for all consumers which is why AMD does not suck in my humble opinion.
I do not care for FPS and as for Windows functionality, you can obtain a great deal of speed by modifying and reducing the bloat of Windows. I would also like to know what real world task you do that requires a CPU faster than 800 mhz anyway. Real world is a strange term as the term means something different to each and everyone of us, my mother for example has a P4 which is used just to type letters and email people, this is not really faster in her real world than the P2 400 that it replaced.

I will of course give Intel time and hope that they can produce a reasonably priced, high performing CPU however at this point in time.. they fail in my humble opinion

Shadow ÒÓ
08-01-01, 06:29 PM
We have strict posting rules about profanity. THERE IS TO BE NO PROFANITY.

If you are an Intel fan, don't come to the AMD board start debates or pick fights. I'm an Intel fan, and I don't allow the AMD fans to do it to us.

This thread is locked.........may it rest in peace.