View Full Version : Send us up the stuff!
9mmCensor
11-14-03, 10:36 PM
I live up in Canada. Yes, I get 13 months of -60C weather to cool my room down for some good OC's but that doesn't mean you guys have got to punish me and my fellow whale blubber eating Canucks.
Very few of the American online retailers shiip to Canada which blows. Even with the exchange rate and shipping we'd still get a great deal. But no, :(.
Here is a diagram as to how us- canada computer related commerce
could work
http://www3.sympatico.ca/patrickwalsh2600/sendusthestuffweareclose.GIF
see how you send us the stuff and we send you the money
look at the proximity of canada in relation to the usa... over 95% of the canadian population lives within like 5 hours or less (can remember the exact statist) of the us boarder. and hey we aren't asking for you to deliver it yourself you have fedex and so do we (happenstance there huh)
sautegod
11-15-03, 05:24 AM
I've been saying that for a long time, maybe I needed a diagram to get my point across.
Even with the exchange rate and the extra shipping it would cost to be shiped to canada we would save money.
My answer is to find some one who spends there winters in florida and have it shipped to them, then they can bring it up when they come back. And if you get it from a site with free shipping you save that much more.
9mmCensor
11-16-03, 12:40 AM
I should start a board smuggling business. Cloak and Daggar stuff to save some money of Thermal paste and UV reactive fans for canadians.
*I pulled up to the boarder with a trunk full of UV Fans and AS5, in my seemingly nobviouse auto - but was it to unobvious?..., I was bring to Canadians because the stores were all so expensive. The sweat poured down my face as I explained to the customs official I was visiting my aunt, and now I wasn't smuggling modding parts into Canada. He asked for ID and I reached into my pocket and extracted my wallet. As I pulled out my Drivers License, got got a look at the recepts, I had tucked in there. The sirens wailed and dogs barkes, and guns were pointed at me as if I was a criminal... Oh yeah I was I was a COMPUTER SMUGGLER*....
sautegod
11-16-03, 11:41 AM
there really cracking down on computer smugglers these days.
they will probably want to make an example of you now.
you only get three year for a gun related crime but for this you could be looking at life
felinusz
11-17-03, 11:00 AM
I agree - the availability and prices of stuff in Canada is awful - stores like SVC and newegg should ship to us - they would make a killing (There are lots of Canadians who would buy from them), and the hassle is practically negligible - and we would all be *glad* to pay more for the shipping - it is still cheaper than buying here.
I can't buy from newegg - so I am forced to buy for more at local Canadian stores. If I could buy from newegg I would probably have spent around $5,000 this year alone on computer parts.
sautegod
11-17-03, 04:30 PM
I think are best bet is to email them into submission.
I wrote Newegg once and they said they had no intensions of shipping to canada in the near future.
But who know if they get alot of request they might change there minds
I like this. Very nice elaborative picture 9mm. :thup: I've wanted some of the good US companies to open up shop morth of the border for a long time. If they'd do that we'd save a good chunk of money, it would spread shipping and import fees over a large amount of goods and so we wouldn't get nailed at the border for one item at a time. Let's not have this thread turn entirely into fluff, maybe someone has a good idea on how to elicit change and I'd hate to see the thread disappear because of too much chat.
felinusz
11-18-03, 04:33 PM
Well, a petition of sorts could work - although "petition" has very negative implications. Perhaps - a "suggestion" letter signed by a lot of people?
The problem is proving that it is worth the while of these companies to ship to Canada - there has to be some reason why they don't as of now - and it would be best to find out what the reason is, and then deal with it appropriately.
I somehow doubt that a company the size of newegg will change it's policies on request, but some of the smaller stores might listen to reason ;).
9mmCensor
11-18-03, 06:31 PM
:attn: If all the Canadians post here that and state that they WILL buy stuff, from say newegg, we might be able to get atleast a trail period for newegg or whomever to determin the feasability of shipping to canada.
So, if you are canadian and want to get products from a US online retailer, please post here.:attn:
Actually I did hear some rumblings about a year ago that Newegg was thinking of putting together an all Canadian setup, completely within Canadian borders so there'd be no duties, but that was at least a year ago and I've not seen anything tangible yet. Fingers crossed though.
sautegod
11-19-03, 06:22 AM
I sent an email to NewEgg last night and recived a response today saying that it was past along to there supervisor and that he was sharing my concerns with the appropriate parties.
Beefpops
11-22-03, 07:28 PM
Let me be the first *real* American to reply to this communist drivel - we have what we like to call a *trade embargo* with Canada and most other totalitarian countries. Sure, you may be able to smuggle in some syrup or bad beer every once in a while, but you can bet your walrus-hide boots: you're never going to get our precious computer supplies.
http://www.crito.uci.edu/tlc/findings/computers_in_american_schools/assets/images/computer_flag.gif
Shall not be usurped by the Northern devils!
-George Washington
(*Edit* - just realized how outdated that computer looks. Oh, well. I assume Canadians don't even have that kind of technology yet.)
Originally posted by Beefpops
Let me be the first *real* American to reply to this communist drivel - we have what we like to call a *trade embargo* with Canada and most other totalitarian countries. Sure, you may be able to smuggle in some syrup or bad beer every once in a while, but you can bet your walrus-hide boots: you're never going to get our precious computer supplies.
http://www.crito.uci.edu/tlc/findings/computers_in_american_schools/assets/images/computer_flag.gif
Shall not be usurped by the Northern devils!
-George Washington
(*Edit* - just realized how outdated that computer looks. Oh, well. I assume Canadians don't even have that kind of technology yet.)
Remember what I said about not letting this turn into a "fluff" thread? I'm not going to pull that, but this is a topic of importance to a lot of member here, so let's keep the humor to a minimum. If Newegg's people come here to see what kind of Canadian demand there is I'd like them to see that there are a lot of people who would buy if they could do so without getting killed at the border by duties, not just a bunch of people joking around.
Ok, ok....
All you Canadians can send me your money and I'll send Computer Parts your way :D
Originally posted by skip
Ok, ok....
All you Canadians can send me your money and I'll send Computer Parts your way :D
Keep it to the classifieds buddy, don't make me drop the ban hammer. :D
(I can't believe I just posted that after asking for little chit-chat, Skip look what you made me do!)
9mmCensor
11-22-03, 08:41 PM
We just want equality.
I'd like the humor jabs kept to a low level, the sincere attacks/grudges/flames and whatever else along those lines that anyone on either side of the border is thinking about posting kept to non-existent. This isn't a flag waving contest.
I don't really have a problem so much with finding good parts at reasonable prices, and locating a store in the US with these attributes that ships to Canada isn't too difficult; however, what ****es me off most is the ridiculous customs fees that are tacked on, especially by UPS, and since most stores that ship to Canada use UPS........... :rolleyes: :p :mad:
At least now it has become easier to buy within Canada, as the selection of goods has become quite a bit better, with prices that aren't that bad at all (I remember it took more than a year for Thermalright heatsinks to have widespread availability within Canada, and of course it happens right after I pay, with all the duties, $40 US for a $20 US SK-7... :rolleyes: ).
Of course, it would be awesome if Newegg set up a Canadian subsidiary, with prices inline to their American store, they would probably dominate the market.
If anyone from Newegg is reading this, "hint hint" :D
wizard james
11-23-03, 03:52 AM
i would buy stuff from the usa but (not just the usa, canada too) it seams that most places u need paypal or a visa.
i am a little to young to have any of thoes yet. only way i could get something is if they accpted cash ordders. or i could ask my mom to set me up some kind of visa or mastercard.
but if there was a canadian newegg i would buy from them.
9mmCensor
11-23-03, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Aslan
If anyone from Newegg is reading this, "hint hint" :D
Yeah there are many stores I know of whos consumer base goes there because it is simply DIRT CHEAP (by canadian standards), so if another store offered better prices they would go there.
davidw2005
12-20-03, 05:25 PM
Shipping to Canada is just too complicated :) I had to send a software piece to somebody I knew overseas....and I was completely loss. I just went into the post office and slammed the stuff down...and asked what I do with it :) (not in a box or anything either...).
So, after buying some international fluffy envelopes...I got it sent to the UK...for like $7+! Such a big hassle.
9mmCensor
12-20-03, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by davidw2005
Shipping to Canada is just too complicated :) I had to send a software piece to somebody I knew overseas....and I was completely loss. I just went into the post office and slammed the stuff down...and asked what I do with it :) (not in a box or anything either...).
So, after buying some international fluffy envelopes...I got it sent to the UK...for like $7+! Such a big hassle.
You need to brush up on your geography (look at the map in this thread). Canada is quite close to the US and is much easier to ship to that the UK as there is not transatlantic voyage. Shipping is much easier to do to canada do to our friendlyness together (except for those custom freaks) and close proximity.
Aktunka
12-20-03, 06:28 PM
I do not know why it is such a hassle to ship to Canada, but believe me it is. The company I work for has an office in Canada, and it is a hassle even trying to transfer something to them. Selling stuff to them is even worse. I think the biggest issue is the customs and then the duties that get charged on stuff. I can understand why most companies don't ship to Canada from the US. Just too much hassle. I feel for my Canadian bretheren though(the non French wannabe ones at least hehe!)
wanna_b_rich_13
12-21-03, 09:49 AM
I think they do not like shipping to Canada b/c your country taxes almost anything that comes through the borders which just causes problems.
I have sold many items to Canadians and you would not beleive how many of them no absoultely nothing about customs duties. If I am not mistaken it is up to 25% of the value of the item and after that the price in the US is probably not much of a deal.
Also realize that there are times when customs will hold your package and send you a letter in the mail stating for you to pick up your package and pay duties. I have also hear of them opening a package if they feel it is not stated correctly on the customs label.
Do you really think Newegg (who gets a couple thousand orders a day already) wants to get emails and phone calls from people getting mad at why they had to pay taxes, or upset that their package is on hold?? Don't forget abou the many people who will also call and email them to make sure they write an incorrect value on a package just to save on taxes (which is illegal). Lets also not forget that every pacakge that goes out MUST include a customs form to be filled out giving all the details inside the box, the value of it, the quantity, and other necassary paperwork. If you get 100 orders a day that takes a lot more time than printing a simple shipping label which is all that is needed for a shipment in the US.
I know this happens b/c I have seen it and that is probably exactly why large places like newegg does not ship to Canada.
I think if Canada didn't have the strict duties on the PC components that they do then a lot of places would ship to Canada. In the US there is no taxes on any PC component that I can think of so it is not a problem for us to purchase outside the US, but if it was then we may not have as many items as we do.
Hope this makes sense and clears some things up.
Fast420A
06-14-04, 10:06 PM
Read the Services section in the classifieds. Search that section for Fast420A. Get your newegg.com items. Be Happy.
9mmCensor
06-14-04, 10:07 PM
Read the Services section in the classifieds. Search that section for Fast420A. Get your newegg.com items. Be Happy.
Saw that a while ago, and added a mental stickie note :D
Silversinksam
06-14-04, 10:14 PM
Sounds like NAFTA (http://www.mac.doc.gov/nafta/) is working on all cylinders :bang head
http://www.mac.doc.gov/nafta/Naftaflg.gif
Silversinksam
06-14-04, 10:19 PM
Ok, ok....
All you Canadians can send me your money and I'll send Computer Parts your way :D
I think the Canadians should send me their money and I will send them Florida seashells, maybe a fire ant or two if I can manage to get them past US Customs :santa2:
I think they do not like shipping to Canada b/c your country taxes almost anything that comes through the borders which just causes problems.
<--SNIP-->
Hope this makes sense and clears some things up.
The only way to clear the whole thing up would be for NewEgg to open a small warehouse in Canada and ship items from within the country. Items that would need to be imported from the US to Canada for NewEgg would be taxed/dutied, but NewEgg could roll that into the retail price.
Either way, Canadian's are still getting a deal.
Additionally, they should set the store up in the province with the LOWEST sales tax. That way, Canadian's (specifically Ontarian's, Maritimers and BC'ers get a break from the 15% GST/PST and 15% HST that we all oh-so-love to pay on all our goods). Hey, it's a start. :)
One thing I'll never understand though is why individuals selling on forum's have a hard time shipping to Canada? The RECEIVER pays the duties taxed onto them, not the sender. How can it be an added bother to calculate the total value of an item and write "COMPUTER PARTS" on the customs declaration forms? But I digress...
NewEgg will be the saviour of us who are slaves to overpriced Canadian stores who charge us obscene amounts of money for the same goods that can be had for nearly 33% less through American channels.
If newegg opened a Canadian site, I'd be on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. While some of the retailers in Canada are ok (ncix.com isn't bad. Neither is PC Canada) they're no newegg.
Ian Cody
06-20-04, 06:02 PM
Wow, we have lots in common! here in alaska, man people wont ship outside the continental united states !!!( :clap: Its really funny when i read stuff like that.) And when they do ship, gotta pay awful shipping prices(like newegg, they only ship fedex 2nd day)!!
So you all should write to your government, and suggest lower customs and whatchamacallits. though i think the reason those customs are there is to promote business in your own country...(how silly is that!)
So, write letters the stores you have there, and suggest them to lower their price to a more competitive price range, else you will shop somewhere else. (like the US maybe?)
So i will have alaska secede, annex canada, and then we can annex the US, no more silly customs? could work!
sonicdrive
06-21-04, 01:58 PM
silly Canadians computer parts that are easy to get belong to the us
Just kidding i agree the us should send anything and everything there because it is money and i dont know about you guys/gals but i like to make money and it dont matter if it is canadians or us money is money to bad us dont think that way ?? :( but it will get better (i hope)
9mmCensor
06-21-04, 02:01 PM
So i will have alaska secede, annex canada, and then we can annex the US, no more silly customs? could work!
Or we could all just form one country (and include the brits, cause tea is tasty) and call it Oceania.
twEEkerAreUs
06-21-04, 08:43 PM
Or we could all just form one country (and include the brits, cause tea is tasty) and call it Oceania
or a half way decent computer store/warehouse could open up in Canada and all your problems would be solved?
Canada = Better Health Care
USA = Easy access to computer parts
:D
Most people won't ship to other countries because customs act like Nazi's or charge absurd prices. I remember when I ordered some shirts from Germany, postal service there ripped open the box and searched through it........After waiting for 1 whole month, it finally came. In a small brown box that looked as if someone used it as a target at a firing range. Vice Versa sending to there and Canada also
Shipping was like $25!?! I figure if you guys pay the extra fee's or money and still save a bit, then these places should do it. Only draw back, as soon as it leaves USA borders it's very difficult to ever get the package back so chalk it up to fraud and probably issues they have had in the past. Only takes a couple guys to ruin it for all
Mr.Furious
06-22-04, 06:46 PM
Just have someone buy you your parts and ship them to canada. Since newegg has free shipping on most items anyways it would only cost the shipping of the person sending it to you in Canada. I cant say much more about it because ill get shot down like whoever else said give me your money and ill sell you computer parts ;)
Ian Cody
06-23-04, 12:21 AM
Should start the Electronic-Accessories Buyers Coalition(E-ABC :clap:, har... get it? like e-mail, and e-book, and e-store... k thats enough of that). Lobby for better transnational commerce in the area of electronics. gotta make it electronics so we can get more than just computer people.
could work... :D
Sorry to say this but there was a lot of BS going on between canadan and us here and all little other...
I feel for my Canadian bretheren though(the non French wannabe ones at least hehe!)
theres nothing wrong with the french, hell im french.
anyways, I understand that the a us company owned by some some asain guy makeing big bucks wouldn't want to waist time and money fooling around trying to get computer good by the boarders, I mean sure its a pain in the ass and probably no one wants to do it but eventually it will happen. I must also say that its neither canadian nore americans fault since we both are part of this.
> canadian side trying to keep economie up etc... and protecting canadian products by setting outragously hight boarder duties.
> americans lack of motivation in creating a market place for themselves in canada.
and for everyone that lives outside quebec, what ever province you live in you have advantages example bc is closer to asain and could probably get things from overseas if needed and faster, alberta has lower sales taxes, ontario and stuff are in the middle of the market place. Were i live most advantages are indian reserves that sell things tax free but dont awalys have the best technologie (gonna have to send them emails to find out that new stuff they got).
anyways thats about it on what i have to say here....
COMPUTER ARE FOR EVERYONE NOT ONLY STUCK UP ****TARDS THAT THINKS THE WORLD TURNS AROUND THEM <!-- This message is general dont think im pointing it to anybody in person but some people just have that thought stuck on there mind... dont take it to personally --!>
have a nice day :attn:
and our beer is not all that bad... :beer:
I don't understand why newegg dosen't ship to CAnada...since they just tack on like $20us for shipping to cover their expenses. We have some "decent" online stores here (NCIX, VIBE, CANADACOMPUTERS, BIGFOOTCOMPUTERS, etc) but newegg would absolutely clean-up if they either opened a warehouse here with online orders in canada that had great prices and good shipping, like us...or offered shipping to Canada from their US locations. Either way they would totally clean house with their stock of parts, etc. I called newegg today about getting an order shipped to NY but paid on my VISA. They say no, we consider that an international order...so even US funds from another country are international order now? I asked about money order...they said it must be made within the US or they won't take it. Seems to me they really either don't need another market, or really don't want to bother with Canada because having someone send you US currency from canada for a US order should be ok. Oh well, Until we get a good vendor in Canada that compares, we'll just buy some parts here, some there...
yeah, i have had people from australia asking me to send them stuff and people from the philopines and insuring it for only 100 to not pay all the duties.. lol i didnt...
speed bump
07-09-04, 07:35 PM
Hmm, I live in Montana and have a 15passenger van, maybe I should help you canoobians(no particular offense) with parts except I could see the border patrol saying. "Now why do need 30 boxes from newegg when all you are doing is visiting a friend that you met online. YOU aren't one of those ocforums parts smugglers are you. Trying to take our state of the art computer parts to those guys in cancoldia so that with their extreme cold temps that mean they don't need LN2 to beat us at 3dmark. Son you should be ashamed of your self. Now we will let you keep these parts as long as you take them back to butte(worlds largest superfund site if I believe our paper) and dip them in the pit so that you have uv reactive parts and give us a cut of the resell." Haha haha then I woke up from the dream.
Sorry for the threadjack might have to see how hard it would really be to really do this.
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