cel600/900:win98 loads, but quake crashes

[clod]

I have a bh6 rev 1, ss bios, 256 megs of pc 100 (corsair) and pc 133 (mushkin) ram, creative geforce ddr. I’ve run a 300a at 450 forever on the same board/vid card/memory/hd, so I don’t think the problem is the ram or the hard disk (ibm 7200). The new cel is a 600 cC0, golden orb fan, abit III slotket set to auto. It will boot and load windows at 901, 1.85 volts (fsb 100, pci 33, , multiplier at 8.5, turbo off, speed error hold off, agp 2/3 etc), run programs (e.g. photoshop, heavy graphic filtering options) without a problem. But when I load quake 3 I get blue screened right after the white screen that usually precedes the id logo, and then returned to a washed out screen at lower resolution. I can change the resolution back, but the screen remains washed out. I don’t have a cpu temp, but the mainboard temp is only 28C.

What are my options? It seems like I’m almost there. I realize some people have had bad experiences with the golden orb, but I have another competition running a cel 533 at 800 with a gorb, and that replaced a global win that failed completely. The problem with loading quake – and it’s quake, of course, that led to the upgrade – points to cpu load posed by graphics. (I can load up age of empires, and watch .avi of the castle getting attacked, but I get a crash, shortly after that.) Am I looking at a new fan, e.g. an Alpha 6035? Will it make that much difference? and will that fan fit on the bh6? Any help would be really great.

Btw, it’s my understanding that a bh6 won’t run coppermines. Is that still true?
clod

[dadx2mj]

Going from 600 to 900 is a big over clock and the orb is only slightly better than a stock HSF I would definetly ditch the orb and go for an Alpha or a Global Win

[Tim-]

Try opening the case and blowing a household fan into the side and see if it will run longer. That will indicate you need to be looking at temps. Your video card may be getting hot, and sometimes cooling the BX chipset or whatever type of chipset you have, can help. If extra cooling doesn't make any difference maybe it's power supply related or some other ODD problem. All you can do is eliminate some variables and try to follow the trail left by the others.

[Xaeron]

I have a coppermine on my bh6 rev1 w/slotket III set to auto w/jumper on coppermine

[clod]

Tim- Senior Member (Jan 01, 2001 06:51 p.m.):
Your video card may be getting hot, and sometimes cooling the BX chipset or whatever type of chipset you have, can help. If extra cooling doesn't make any difference maybe it's power supply related or some other ODD problem. All you can do is eliminate some variables and try to follow the trail left by the others.

I've assumed that running the 600 at 100 fsb would result in the same demands on the system, especially the vid card, as the 300a at 100 fsb. am I wrong? are you saying that the greater output of the 600/900 makes the vid card heat up more? I guess that would make sense, but I've never seen anyone worrying about faster cpus making their vid cards overheat, it's always the agp/pci clock that people focus on.

and Xaero: sheesh! I really can run coppermines on this board? what is the limit?
clod

[Ruger]

I'm having very similar problems overclocking a Celeron 566 to 850 at 100mhz FSB. Not sure if my prob is directly related to heat yet. I'm also running a Banshee video. I can boot into Windows just fine and do just about anything except play some of my 3D games. For what it's worth, all of my game lockdowns seem to happen in Glide video mode. Not sure if this is just a coincidence yet or not. I'm using the PCI version of the Diamond Monster Fusion, so I'm not overclocking the vid at all with 100mhz FSB and 33.3 mhz PCI bus speed. Strangely, Falcon 4.0 (Glide) will lock now even when my Celery is back down to the rated 566 clock speed and 66mhz FSB. Madden NFL 2000 (also Glide) will lock down after about ten minutes. Crimson Skies (Direct3D) goes without a hitch at 850mhz CPU clock. Another Direct3D game, Microsoft Football 2000, also run flawless. Will try and put Flight Simulator 2000 (Direct3D) to the grindstone at 850 and see what I get. Our problem may not necessarily be the Celeron!

[Tim-]

I've assumed that running the 600 at 100 fsb would result in the same demands on the system, especially the vid card, as the 300a at 100 fsb. am I wrong? are you saying that the greater output of the 600/900 makes the vid card heat up more? I guess that would make sense, but I've never seen anyone worrying about faster cpus making their vid cards overheat, it's always the agp/pci clock that people focus on.



The whole system is more sensitive to everything when it is overclocked. Perhaps the jitter on data from the video card to the bus or some other arcane thing is causing errors, which the cpu can't deal with.