L3 Cache

[Sniper_83]

Who has a CPU with the L3 cache?

I'm looking to upgrade to one. My only problem is that I need a new mobo if I'm going to get the 800Mhz version.

I'm looking for facts from people that have the Xeon 533 and how it preforms.

I'm also looking for facts from people that have the 800Mhz P4's and how they preform.

[stan03]

you are going to get a P4EE? isn't that the only 800 FSB cpu with level 3 cache?

[Sniper_83]

I don't know yet.

[batboy]

Stan is right, the only P-4 with L3 cache is the 3.2EE that costs an arm and a leg.

[Sniper_83]

So, your point.

The way I look at it is, Dual Opertons or single P4.

[Sniper_83]

Xeon I'm loseing interest in, the bloody socket is different.

[FIZZ3]

What do you want to do with the system? Dual opterons versus a single P4 EE is a bit of an odd match-up.

[TC]

Yeah really....

[Sniper_83]

Speed, large 3D graphics renderings, animation, video editing??(tied to animation), workstation/server....

You know what, I think I just talked myself back into the 64's.

[Nightingale]

Well I think that with the stuff you have mentioned a dual processor system would putperform a single processor even with the P4's HT ability.

[FIZZ3]

Originally posted by Sniper_83
Speed, large 3D graphics renderings, animation, video editing??(tied to animation), workstation/server....

You know what, I think I just talked myself back into the 64's.

Rendering and server functions are certainly areas where SMP power can benefit you. I'd agree that dual Opterons would be more suited for these tasks. As a rough contrast, the P4 (EE) would sound better for gaming and overclocking 'needs'.

By the way, don't forget lots of RAM for your new system, whatever way you decide to go.

[stan03]

yea definitely go dual opterons for that. and a couple gigs of ram just to touch it off :D


of topic fizz i thought i was going crazy before i realized your avatar was supposed to blur :p

[Sniper_83]

I'm still trying to wager how much time I will beable to comit to my 3D rendering and animations, I do game, and the server issue is not a real big one because my current PC covers that just fine. So I may go either way yet.

I want to know if the L3 cache does anything different than the standard CPU's. Wish I could just drop a Xeon in my current system.

[TC]

I agree - look into dual xeons or opterons, or even dual XP's if you need to save some bucks and spend more on ram and a fast drive setup.

[FIZZ3]

Originally posted by stan03
of topic fizz i thought i was going crazy before i realized your avatar was supposed to blur :p

LOL :D

Sniper_83: this article can provide some insights into the benefits of the extra cache. It pits the EE against it's 3.2 Vanilla Edition countepart and some other single-cpu setups including x86-64.

Game benchmarks & more serious stuff further on:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1884&p=13

[ttfrog]

Aren't 800 fsb xeons coming out soon? I could be mistaken, but if this is true, wouldnt it be worth waiting a bit? It seems a though a lot of good, new technology is on the way now. I was thinking of an upgrade myself to a relatively more powerful system, but I've been discouraged due to some things I've read on this site, as well as others. But each man(or woman) to his(or her) own.

[Sniper_83]

I want to know if the L3 cache is worth anything. While I'm at is are the 533 HT P4s worth it or would it be better to make the move to the 800 P4s.

[Sniper_83]

Originally posted by FIZZ3


LOL :D

Sniper_83: this article can provide some insights into the benefits of the extra cache. It pits the EE against it's 3.2 Vanilla Edition countepart and some other single-cpu setups including x86-64.

Game benchmarks & more serious stuff further on:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1884&p=13

That page wont open, their web page has some issues. I'll try again later.

[deathman20]

Originally posted by Sniper_83
I want to know if the L3 cache is worth anything. While I'm at is are the 533 HT P4s worth it or would it be better to make the move to the 800 P4s.

Well that L3 Cache is worth about 600 bucks :D.

As for the 533HT there is only 1 the 3.06ghz CPU, then you got the Xeon's after that. Of course the 800's are all HT, and I might say its nicer to have a faster system. Going from a 3.15 to 3.3 (where I sit right now) the HT and memory preformance boost has done really well for making the computer faster.

[Sniper_83]

So the L3 don't do Shnit!

But is the 533 worth the cheaper upgrade?

[deathman20]

Well it does help. Just the question is are you willing to pay $600 for that 2mb's?

BTW the anandtech site does work.

In Quake3 (good benchmark for this)
3.2C 384.5FPS
3.2EE 468.2FPS

[Sniper_83]

Well I have a whole system with the 2Mb cache CPU for just over 2000, that includes a 9800XT and a Thermaltake case.

BTW the page that it is directing me to don't work, even if I try to click on CPU and find the artical.

[deathman20]

Might I ask where you getting a CPU that has 2Mb cache for $200? The lowest CPU I see is $175 and that just has 1Mb cache.

[Sniper_83]

Where do you see 200? The whole system is just over $2000.

[deathman20]

You edited your thread it said 200 before. Like 1 min before you posted this one.

[Sniper_83]

Ahhh....bloody....edit notes!

[Sniper_83]

I could nock off about $600 on that cost just by switching the L3 to L2 only.

[Sniper_83]

The system is composed of the following:

>Thermaltake Highest Xaser III V1000A Super Tower
>LiteOn Black DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model LDW-411S BLK
>Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
>OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Dual Channel Optimized 184 Pin 512MB(256MBx2) DDR PC-3200
>ABIT 875P Motherboard for Socket 478 800MHz Canterwood, Model "IC7-Max3"
>350W Power Supply
>Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2 GHz Extreme Edition 800MHz FSB, 2MB L3 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology
>SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800XT
>Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack SP1a