Try this: heat problems galore...

[Skorzeny]

Hello all,


I would like to have your best knowledge for what appears to be an incredible heat problem.

I have a PIII 600E with an Asus P3V4X MB. I also have 256 PC 133 ram with a TNT2 Ultra.
I also have a full tower case with 300 W P/S. I have not added any more fans. Nothing is overclocked.

I bought the Case, MB and CPU in one shot.

The first time I placed the CPU, on the MSI adapter, on the Asus MB, the Asus started to beep loud: My CPU was dead. So, thinking I had received a bad unit, I went to exchange it. The next time I put the CPU in the socket, the board stopped responding (I could tell the MB was broken because I had another computer to try my CPU on). Then I said to myself "what the **** is going on???" I went to exchange the MB. Believe it or not, it took 2 weeks for a technician to finally make the CPU work with the MB.

All of this took place this summer.


The system ran for 5 months, until my CPU dropped dead last november. I went again to exchange it. The retailer had never seen anything like it; he was convinced I was overclocking. I replied I would never think about overclocking such an unstable system.

Now today: As I just received my last 600E, I am afraid to put it in the socket. The P3V4X seems to have a terrible bad heat problem. What makes me think this? The celeron I use on the other computer, a 300 A overcloked at 450, ran perfectly fine on my abit BH6 for 2 years, without a single freeze. Ever since I use it as a replacement on my Asus, I freeze repeatedly
replacement on my Asus, I freeze repeatedly. But the best is yet to come: I played Ultima Ascension on my old Abit board and the overclocked celeron, and NEVER had any freeze (although the CPU was grinning through the high texture levels). Now, with the P3V4X, I can't even play 15 secs without a complete freeze and a force boot up. I get about 45-47 degrees before complete freeze.

That is just pathetic. Any of you guys would know what the problem might be? I have talked about this problem to several people, but none of them knows exactly what is going on.

I have changed the case, 3 CPUs and 2 MBs, and still overheat. Is this normal?????? Is the P3V4X unable to deal with heat????

ANY suggestion will be greatly appreciated.


Sko

[DocClock aka MadClocker]

Hmmm, do you have a "clean" power source? can u put your comp in a room where there is a circuit that does not have anything plugged in?
It could be that you aren't getting enough juice to the p.s. and thus making everything work harder just to function.
Also you can put some cooling to your chipset, and clock generator, and see if that settles things down..BTW, what does your bios report your cpu volt to be? you could also try to "undervolt" the cpu...like I did with my katmai 450...I overclocked it, and because my h.s. wasn't that good, I droped the volts from 2.0 to 1.85...and it ran cooler and was stable.
Also is your cpu on a slotket, or is it a slot 1? if it is a slotket, then they have voltage adjustments on the card, which can overide the default.
One more thing, 40 to 45c is unexceptable temp IMHO...try to add more cooling.
Hope this helps

[Skorzeny]

DocClock aka MadClocker (Jan 13, 2001 03:13 a.m.):
"Hmmm, do you have a "clean" power source? can u put your comp in a room where there is a circuit that does not have anything plugged in?"

Well, I got a dedicated power source with only my comp plugged to it. Is that enough?


"Also you can put some cooling to your chipset, and clock generator, and see if that settles things down.."

Nice idea. I thought about that. But why would the P3V4X be unstable without cooling?

"BTW, what does your bios report your cpu volt to be? you could also try to "undervolt" the cpu...like I did with my katmai 450...I overclocked it, and because my h.s. wasn't that good, I droped the volts from 2.0 to 1.85...and it ran cooler and was stable."

EXCELLENT IDEA. Big problem though. My crappy Asus board won't allow me to underclock the voltage. For example, with my celeron, I can only use 2.0 AND up. Otherwise, I would have underclock it for sure. Any other to underclock it apart from the Asus bios?

"Also is your cpu on a slotket, or is it a slot 1? if it is a slotket, then they have voltage adjustments on the card, which can overide the default."

My Celeron is slot 1. The 600 EB I have received is FC-PGA (socket 370). What do you mean "they have voltage adjustment on the card"? How do I check this?


"Hope this helps"

Believe me, my friend, it does help :)


Thank you very much

[SpeeDj]

Skorzeny (Jan 13, 2001 06:40 a.m.):

"My Celeron is slot 1. The 600 EB I have received is FC-PGA (socket 370). What do you mean "they have voltage adjustment on the card"? How do I check this?"

The newer Slocket's Doc is referring to all have voltage adjustments on the Card themselves if your's does not I would suggest picking up a new one. I recommend the ABIT Slocket !!! I have one of those and it is Great! So take a stab at that and good luck. Hope that helps as well.

"I also have a full tower case with 300 W P/S. I have not added any more fans."

One more thing to try would be to pick up a couple case fans, I know that sounds odd, but I never build a computer with just a heatsink and Power supply fan anymore, everything above a Pentium 133 Screams when it doesn't get enough cooling. And being a big tower it's going to hold a hell of alot of ambient air inside it. So try adding some fans.


SpeeDj