LQQK! Blue Antifreeze!

[MoreGooder]

It arrived today! Blue Antifreeze! And it's in my watercooling system right now.

I purchased it from Drivewire.com (http://www.drivewire.com).

The details:

The blue antrifreeze is intended for VW and Audi's, and is formulated to have fewer phosphates to protect car cooling systems that have some aluminum in them. For those of use with anodized aluminum parts in our system, this could be a bonus on top of the pleasant color. It comes in 1.5Liter bottles, brand name "Pentosin", I mixed about 35% in with deionized water. $7.36. Shipping was via UPS and for me it was $6.95. For you, who knows.

Get this! It glows purple with addition of a small amount of "clear/blue" UV dye from Directron.com (http://www.directron.com).

Here's a crappy pic, but you get the idea. The fluid is still a bit cloudy because it has micro bubbles from the initial startup. I'll take another one later on tonight once it clears up.

It looks like blue Koolaid! OH YEAH *crash*

Enjoy!
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[MoreGooder]

Oops, here's the pic:

[MoreGooder]

Ok, here's a much better picture, after a few hours to let the microbubbles work their way out of the fluid.

I highly recommend this if you are interested in Blue as your theme as I am. Blue implies cold, so what better color for a water cooling system?

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[Aktunka]

Kind of hard to tell in those pictures. That really bright light up top makes it kind of look like it is just normal water with a blue LED fan sitting up top being annoyingly bright lol. I am sure it looks great though!

[blackhabit]

u can tell from the bottom of the case that it glows, looks nice

[Aktunka]

I think what might be my problem is I am used to seeing those type of pictures in dark rooms so the glowing really stands out. Now that you mentioned it blackhabit, i looked lower and you can kinda see it glow :)

[MoreGooder]

Yeah, the pics suck, as do all of my pics. My digital cam has a hard time not overexposing the lighty stuff. There's a blue cathode underneeth the back edge of the water res, and that's where most of the glow comes from. Without the light on the fluid is blue. It's not DARK blue like ink. It's light blue like Koolaid.

I suppose if one wanted to, one could add blue food coloring or the juice of a blue highlighter, but maybe that's going one step too far into the realm of silly. I might as well call it "Smurfette" or something like that.

I give this two enthusiastic thumbs up. You're results may differ.

I call this stuff BLUID instead of fluid. ;-)

Chao,
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[Xymurgy]

Looks very nice. Way better than my Toyota Red stuff (which ends up pink).

[bigben2k]

The product is similar to Silkolene ProCCA: also contains mineral oil.

Silkolene's suggested mix ratio is ~1%, leaving mostly water, for more performance.

Do you have a part# for that site? It's hard to dig it up!

[MoreGooder]

Wow! Only 1%?! THis stuff recommends 50%.

Part number:Z8003-51261

I found this by searching their site for "Blue Coolant"

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[bucken77]

Lets bump this thread

[Cuda]

I have to bookmark that site. I just finished my w/c mod and used prestone, I would love the blue 'cause the rest of my rig is blue.

[ninety6]

Originally posted by MoreGooder
Wow! Only 1%?! THis stuff recommends 50%.

Part number:Z8003-51261

I found this by searching their site for "Blue Coolant"

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50% in a CAR!! Your watercooled PC is not a car :) Adding 5%-15% should be more than enough.

96

[MoreGooder]

Hey peeps, this "blue antifreeze" is very very light blue. I realized that I had a tiny bit of UV clear dye in it afterall. It is not UV reactive. Sorry I didn't come back here and report my results. HOWEVER, the antifreeze is still an alternative for those not wanting to mix any other color of antifreeze with blue UV dye . I highly recommend that situation, as so far it works very well. I now have a clear UV dye running in it and it looks fantastic. Kinda milky though because I have some stains left over from Water Wetter. I don't mind really, because it stands out really well under UV. Temps are 27C idle and 34-35C fully loaded, both CPU and 9800pro are in the loop in series.

[oRIDDLERo]

Damit, right after i filled my system!!!! this stuff is sweet, im geting me some ASAP and gonna drain and refill b4 the water wetter stains set in!

[MoreGooder]

Originally posted by bucken77
Lets bump this thread

I don't think my thread is worth bumping, but thanks all the same.

[oRIDDLERo]

Originally posted by MoreGooder


I don't think my thread is worth bumping, but thanks all the same.

Your thread is a god send!! You have no idea how i HATE my water wetter... its gay, stinky, pink, and stains PVC dukey brown!!! My bottle is in the mail. :) Thank you

[Nightingale]

I added zerex to my system which is purplish so for the heck of it after reading of people putting highlighter in there water for uv effect I figured it would be safe to try. I added a blue highlighter to my system so the water is blue:D So if you can't track down blue radiator coolant just get zerex and add a blue highlighter.

[oRIDDLERo]

I just got my bottle of blue stuff today; later tonight I will take that staining water wetter crap out and exchange it for the new, mighty, blue German blue anticorrosive.

[MoreGooder]

Originally posted by gofastman
I just got my bottle of blue stuff today; later tonight I will take that staining water wetter crap out and exchange it for the new, mighty, blue German blue anticorrosive.

I hope you like it as much as I do!

[Ross]

After much trouble, I finally found the Pentosin on drivewire.com, but not until I dug around elsewhere for an OEM P/N. For everyone's info:

Pentosin Blue: G001100
Drivewire #: Z8003-51261
$7.44/1.5L

Pentosin Red: G001200
Drivewire #: Z8003-88016
$7.88/1.5L

Also FYI, blue is pre-1997 VW/Audi and red is 1997+ if you need to look it up by car.

The "blue" is also called "blue/green" by at least one of the VW/Audi sites I've seen, so MoreGooder or anyone with the "blue" could you possibly take a pic of some by itself in a clear container or no lights in your rig so we can all see what it looks like "unmolested" (ie. no lights, no UV dye, no highlighters, etc....just Pentosin blue :). Some of us would really appreciate it!!

Thanks,

[MoreGooder]

Here are pics of the Pentosin Blue antifreeze per your request.

First, 3/4 cup of tap water:

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Next, with 1/4 cup of the Pentosin added, to make 1 cup total:

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And lastly, here's a side-by-side comparison:

Edit:

I think this is awesome stuff. Add some clear/UV or dye to it like I did and you have a winner!

[oRIDDLERo]

i still did not get a chance to put mine in my system yet (purging Sucks!) but once i stop being lazy i will post pictures as well. I know it sounds lame but I am tempted to run this stuff at a 50/50 ratio (and take the 1-2c hit) just because the freaking color is so cool.

[MoreGooder]

Oh, and here's a not-so-glamorous glamor shot of the Pentosin antifreeze:

[MoreGooder]

I agree, the color is great. It especially looks good in a res!

[Ross]

Thanks a lot for the pics, but just one of it mixed would've sufficed...thanks for the extra effort!

I decided that I wasn't paying as much in S&H from Drivewire as a jug of the stuff alone, so I stopped at a VW dealer today, walked up to the parts guy and just said "I am looking for blue coolant". He walked away, came back in 5 sec. with it and I was out the door.

$17.71 for a gallon. So for about $3.50 more than ordering online ($7.44+$6.95+4-5 day wait), I got it in my hands today and it's 2.5x more (a "lifetime supply") than the Pentosin jug :D

I will take some pics and post them as well...

Thanks again,

[DayUSeX]

ok now im intersted but i still want to know, how does it perform??????

[MoreGooder]

ok now im intersted but i still want to know, how does it perform??????

Well, I think performance of antifreeze is difficult to compair directly. I haven't had any problems with it as far as I can tell. However, this is the only antifreeze I have used. Prior to that it was Water Wetter, along with the unpleasant stain it creates. I will be disassembling mine this coming weekend. I'll find out if there is any corrosion. I would be really surprised if there were any. My temps with Water Wetter were identical to what I have with this stuff, so I think it doesn't degrade cooling performance. I bet if you put too much in, say >50%, you would have a decrease in cooling performance due to viscosity.

I use a 25% solution in distilled water along with clear UV dye.

[Ross]

I haven't taken any pic in my box yet because I am still trying to locate an MCW-20 block to install this week, so no pics until it's "done", but it looks SOOOOOO much better than green.

The bottle:
http://home.austin.rr.com/rossmisc/images/audi_coolant.jpg

The ingredients:
http://home.austin.rr.com/rossmisc/images/audi_coolant_ingred.jpg

The color:
http://home.austin.rr.com/rossmisc/images/audi_coolant10.jpg

This stuff is pretty dark (see Gatorade jug), so if Pentosin is so light that it requires a ton of it to make it very deep, this is definitely an option. The mix in this pic is 25%, but I ended up with 10% in the system, which is dark enough for me (maybe still too dark)....without lights in the case, it ends up looking very dark against the dark background, but it sure does look sweet against that light background in the pic.

One caveat: it does have a greenish tinge to it and the more you add, the more of a teal color it becomes, particularly with a light on it (incandenscent or camera flash...hence no flash pics). Colored cathodes are probably just fine...

Anyway, I said I would post pics, so there you all are. I'll take some more when everything is finally completed.

I haven't even booted it up yet, so no comparo on temps yet...

[MoreGooder]

Thanks for the pics and info! Great find there. I think we have an acceptable blue design, depending on how your temps turn out!

[oRIDDLERo]

Well i purged my system of the 15% water wetter/water today and replaced it with 25/75 blue pentosin from drivewire.com I am happy to say that i have yet to see ANY noticeable temperature changes.

[MoreGooder]

Excellent! Thanks for reporting your results. Same results as me = no change when switching from water wetter to Pentosin.

[Nick Burns]

SOunds like I found my coolant. I am off to the VW dealer now.

[Ross]

Ditto here...if anything it's 1°C cooler than the Swiftech Hydrx it replaced. It could've just been the mixture change, but either way, definitely no temp increase from the VW/AUdi coolant.

In fact, I just hit my highest OC tonight :D (see sig)...

[madsam]

what mix ratio is best for corrosion resistance, and for cooling efficiency?

i thought adding coolant to my water system would provide corrosion resistance, as well as the possibility of cooler temps.

i will definately go to a vw/audi dealer and get myself some of that cool blue stuff, but that's because i want the color.

should i expect my current temps to go down at all by adding this to my system...keep in mind that i am not replacing another agent here, i currently use distilled water only, as i am in the market for a "bluer" solution, and i also plan to add either blue highlighter, or clear/blue uv dye. does anyone suggest the dye over the highlighter? or the highlighter over the dye for any reasons other than the highlighter being cheaper? does one look better than the other as far as the uv effect, and blueness of the uv?

and finally, i have blue cold cathodes...will these effect the uv? or do i need to specifically use a blacklight/uv cold cathodes..?

;)

[MoreGooder]

I use clear UV dye. Works great. Use 25% of the antifreeze if you have any aluminum in your system. Use less if it's all copper, say around 10-15%. That's what I've gleamed from the many threads on this topic.

Yes, you need UV cathodes. Blue ones won't cause the dye to flouresce (spelling?).

Word has it that blue highlighters don't really work as well as the yellow ones for glowy effect.

Enjoy!

[PolarExpress]

/bump or update i mean :)

Anymore info on this product? I was going to use Zerex but its not avaiable in Canada except by mail order. I wanted the blue look but not the performance hit by going with something else. Thought of Dexcool but 1) Orange and 2) I just Googled Dexcool and spent an hour reading law suits against the product not working properly???

[MoreGooder]

I've had no issues to date. No changes in temps, corrosion, or color changes.

[TheTick]

any1 have a direct link to this stuff? Just the regular pentosin antifreeze?

nm found it here http://www.drivewire.com/OEMResult/KEYBlue_Coolant.html

[KxrWireless]

This stuff looks really good, I think I'll pick some up today or tomorrow.

[RoD]

if u want orange u can use Dexcool, and if you want reddish pink u can use the GM antifreeze.

[FACTION95Si]

Does Pentosin stain the tubes at all?

[MoreGooder]

I have used it prior to my last rebuild, but my old tubes had already been stained by old Water Wetter. My latest rebuild was completed on March 11 and has only used the Pentosin. This hasn't been long enough for a judgement really. So far my new Clearflex tubing has no stains with 25% of the Pentosin. I'm very pleased with the color and the cooling performance. It also looks awesome with Clear UV dye and glows a nice brilliant blue. It will not fluoresce on its own, so UV dye is a must for eye candy.

If at some point I become aware of staining I'll try to remember to come back to this thread and post an update.

Edit:
Here's the thread for the latest rebuild I refer to above:

Linkage (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279858)

[situman]

I recently added the vw/audi stuff to my loop. I used a bit more than 25% cause i have too many kinds of metal in my loop. better safe than sorry. Hers a linnk to my setup:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=301913

[Suma]

I bought some in HomeDepot. It's nice and cheap, well it is here in Israel :p

Suma.

[MoreGooder]

I promised an update..... It's still great after another month. No buggies and no leaks.

[DarkDraco]

all i have to say is clear blue uv dye sucks major a$$. i am still on a mission in finding one that doesnt fade in an hour or so.... currently ordered wildfire clear blue and seems to not work either.

[eXCeSS]

Could someone take some and put it in a cup, take pics, add some dyelite, take pics with uv light and regular light. This would be cool to have blue water but its green in uv.

[ZachM]

I found a blue alternative to the VW antifreeze. Skahtul found that there is an antifreeze made for large diesel engines that is blue. This may be easier to find in some towns that don't have a VW dealer. The antifreeze is made by Fleetguard and the part numbers are CC2820 or CC2830. The first one is ethylene glycol and the second one is propylene glycol based. The only difference that I know between the two is that propylene glycol is less toxic than ethylene glycol.

Click (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=299030&highlight=fleetguard) for pics of skahtul's system using that antifreeze.

[MoreGooder]

DarkDrako,
Try the stuff Directron sells. That's what I use and it's great.

eXCeSS,
For me, the Pentosin doesn't glow green. It doesn't glow at all. Only with UV dye will it glow. I have no information to offer on the other types of blue AF.

[DarkDraco]

ill give it a try.. this is the last blue dye i will try

[MoreGooder]

DarkDraco,

I use the Clear/Blue stuff. It gloes well.

[DarkDraco]

which one do u use?

[MoreGooder]

DarkDraco, click this link:
http://store.yahoo.com/directron/wc322.html

[toorude]

really nice look, I got a jetta so maybe the guy who hooks me up at the service center when I take my car in can slip me a bottle =P

[situman]

well i redid my setup for the Nth time and i noticed my tubes turn kinda cloudy, not as bad as the swiftech hydrx stuff, but not nearly as clear as when i first put in my tubes. so i guess it does cloud, but not as bad as the others out there.

[klath]

ill give it a try.. this is the last blue dye i will try

Let us know if it works when you get it. :)