Best MOBO for OC'ing Celeron II 566 step id 3

[fredflintstone]

Hi,

New to Oc'ing -> was 'advised' by some bozo elsewhere to buy an ABIT VT6X4 to OC this CPU.

Well it will not OC AT ALL - Windoze only boots at default 66 FSB.

Have heard that the ABIT BE6-II is best for this - I have a supercooled case (8 case fans, CPU fan etc), 100 Mhz SDRAM (640 Mb) + 2 30 Gb Barracuda 66 Mb/s drives and a Matrox G400 16 Mb graphics card.

The VT6X4 was a waste of good money so I'm HOPING somebody out there can help ....?????

Also ABIT board incompatible with Sounblaster Live 1024 card - what a ****ty MOBO.

1. As memory is so important my memory spec is below, if any of you guys can interpret it :

< Logical/Chipset Memory Banks >

Bank 0 Setting: 64MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 4-1-1-1W

Bank 1 Setting: 64MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 4-1-1-1W

Bank 2 Setting: 64MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 4-1-1-1W

Bank 3 Setting: 64MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 4-1-1-1W

Bank 4 Setting: 64MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 4-1-1-1W

Memory Bus Speed: 67MHz

< Memory Modules >

Memory Module 1: Winbond Electronic PDP100-064322EU 256MB 16x(16Mx8)

SDRAM CL2 PC100-222-622

Memory Module 2: Winbond Electronic PDP100-064322EU 256MB 16x(16Mx8)

SDRAM CL2 PC100-222-622

Memory Module 3: Hyundai Electronics 71X651601TH10P 128MB 8x(16Mx8)

SDRAM CL3 PC100-322-622

2. Also is the stepping id important ? I've also been told that it must be 6 to achieve 850=900 Mhz (my target) - is this true or more sales hype (huy was trying to sell me one LOL).

ANY HELP APPRECIATED - I COULD HAVE BOUGHT A NEW SYSTEM AT 850 MhZ for the money and time I've spent building this !!!!!

I love the stone ages

Fred

[allison]

Gee, my VT6X4/Cel566 boots @935 -1.95v and runs perfectly stable @850 - 1.6v . Of course its a step 0 cpu. Should have checked the specs before u bout the 566.

[Tim-]

Celeron cb0 coppermines are "stepping ID 3". This is the last bit of the CPUID code in the cpu. 0683h is the typical CPUID code. They overclock fine- maybe a little behind the cc0 but often just as well. cc0's are 0686h or stepping ID 6.

SL46S cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA
SL3W6 cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46T cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA
SL3W7 cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46U cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA
SL3W8 cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA 2
SL3VS cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA
SL3W9 cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48E cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA
SL4AB cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48F cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA
SL4EG cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA

[batboy]

I love Abit boards, although the BE6 verion II would of been better, in my opinion. Probably no one "best" board. Does that mobo have the Soft Menu II or III BIOS? If so, you "should" be able to change the bus speed settings easily from the BIOS.

I just built a super low budget rig for a friend using an Abit VL6 board and a Celeron 666 (I know, I know... but he's not into O/Cing). I was still able to overclock it to 75 then 83 MHz... wouldn't boot at 100 MHz. Not bad for a cheap, high 10X multiplier Celeron with a cheap OEM fan mounted on a budget mobo.

But, for boards using the VIA chipset, I had to load that "4 in 1" VIA driver set before I could get the video and sound to work right. I'm assuming the "V" in the model number of your mobo stands for VIA chipset. I don't know anything about that particular board. Just a suggestion, you probably already thought of it.

[batboy]

sorry, double post

[fredflintstone]

Gee, my VT6X4/Cel566 boots @935 -1.95v and runs perfectly stable @850 - 1.6v . Of course its a step 0 cpu. Should have checked the specs before u bout the 566.

Oh Gee allison can't you spell, it's bought, you moron. There is always one cretin who instead of trying to help says 'Oh, I'm so clever and you are not'.

Seems like you're the one.

Try to get some lessons in inter-personal skills and PLEASE. It might help you get some friends which I doubt you have.

[fredflintstone]

Tim- (Jan 14, 2001 03:54 p.m.):
Celeron cb0 coppermines are "stepping ID 3". This is the last bit of the CPUID code in the cpu. 0683h is the typical CPUID code. They overclock fine- maybe a little behind the cc0 but often just as well. cc0's are 0686h or stepping ID 6.

SL46S cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA
SL3W6 cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46T cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA
SL3W7 cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46U cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA
SL3W8 cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA 2
SL3VS cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA
SL3W9 cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48E cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA
SL4AB cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48F cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA
SL4EG cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA

Tim,

Thank you for the courteous reply.

So you're saying that the stepping id of 3 should be fine ? I have SoftMenu II and my meory is 100 MhZ SDRAM. I have tried to up the FSB incrementally but I have had no results.

The supplier tested the CPU and said it OC's fine on ANOTHER MOBO but not ABIT VT6X4. Strange when they stated 'Will OC to 850 MhZ + guaranteed'. Refusing to refund my money.

Have you any ideas as to what the problem might be ?

I have stripped out PCI cards, set CAS latency to 3, checked for viruses and Windows probs + IRQ conflicts but I know these are not the problem.

So, is stepping id 0 the best as the socially inept individually who posted separately boasted ?

Any help appreciated

Thank you

[fredflintstone]

fredflintstone (Jan 15, 2001 12:31 a.m.):
[quote]Tim- (Jan 14, 2001 03:54 p.m.):
Celeron cb0 coppermines are "stepping ID 3". This is the last bit of the CPUID code in the cpu. 0683h is the typical CPUID code. They overclock fine- maybe a little behind the cc0 but often just as well. cc0's are 0686h or stepping ID 6.

SL46S cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA
SL3W6 cB0 128 0683h 533A/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46T cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA
SL3W7 cB0 128 0683h 566/66 FC-PGA 2
SL46U cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA
SL3W8 cB0 128 0683h 600/66 FC-PGA 2
SL3VS cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA
SL3W9 cB0 128 0683h 633/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48E cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA
SL4AB cB0 128 0683h 667/66 FC-PGA 2
SL48F cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA
SL4EG cB0 128 0683h 700/66 FC-PGA

Tim,

Thank you for the courteous reply.

So you're saying that the stepping id of 3 should be fine ? I have SoftMenu II and my meory is 100 MhZ SDRAM. I have tried to up the FSB incrementally but I have had no results.

I have used the WCPUID and it tells me the following :

[ WCPUID Ver.2.8c-B5 (c) 1996-2000 By H.Oda! ]

Processor 1 : Intel Celeron / 118AE3F7
Platform : Socket370 (PGA370 Socket)
Vendor ID : GenuineIntel
Type ID : 0 (0)
Family ID : 6 (0)
Model ID : 8 (0)
Stepping ID : 3 (0)
Brand ID : 1 (0)

Clock Frequency
Internal : 568.00 MHz
External : 66.82 MHz
Multiplier : 8.5

L1 I-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ---
L2 Cache : 128K Byte
L2 Latency : 2
L3 Cache : ---

MMX : Supported
SIMD : Supported
3DNow! : Not Supported

Machine : IBM PC/AT
Version : Windows 98 Version 4.10.2222 A

----------- : --------

I don't see any of the info you are talking about -> what utility do you use ?

Have I got a Coppermine identified as a Celeron -> this is confusing as hell.

Sorry -> any help appreciated or I'll just buy a new PC. This isn't worth the grief.

Thank you in advance

[Tim-]

Yes the "stepping ID" of three is the cb0 that we know and love. Many will run at 100FSB, but not all. Most prefer higher Vcore voltage-up to 1.85v is not uncommon. Some are reluctant at first but will move up after some burn in time. Try torturing it a little at the highest speed it will run stable at and then move it up a click. When the Vcore is increased, keep an eye on the temps. You may find that particular chip is a dog- it happens, but on average the cb0 566 is a good overclocking chip.