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sendatooli
01-16-01, 09:45 PM
im sure you all saw my post where i sated i purchased a celeron 600 cc0 for the same price as a thunderbird 850. you all told me that it was a dumb move. i then went on to diss the crap out of amd. simply because i was defensive for being told that amd is better just to rub my purchase in my face.
well i still am not comfortable with what it takes to o/c an amd. i am not the type that gets into the exotic o/c.

well, i had my cely 566 runing at 953+ for almost a year before it blew up. not due to being overclocked but do to a shorted power supply.

so when i asked a vender who is my friend what i should purchase from him. he stated buy the cely 600 cc0 from him for $87 instead of the t-bird 850 for $91.

he further told me it would hit 1 gig like a peice of cake, or he would replace it. now that over a week has gone by i do not if that deal still stands.

well first let me state that i am not new to overclocking or computers for that matter. in fact i used to frequent the old board a long time ago. surlyjoe may indeed remember me, since i remember him.

anyways heres the kicker, the damn chip wont even hit the 100mhz bus! i have as much air cooling as is humanly possible. 7 case fans plus alpha pep66 with delta 38cfm. artic silver. the problem may indeed lie in the fact that i was "forced" to purchase a soyo sy-6ba+100 for the mainboard, as it is the only board left with 2 isa slots. wich i need. i wont get into why.
the chip was NOT pretested!
i know how overclocking adventures are supposed to be fun, and i may at some point get this up there. although it doesnt look hopefull since i already broke it in for 6 days before i even attempted to o/c it.

if you have any suggestion for me i would really appreciate it.
i would just go bite the bullet and get the amd now. im sure the vender will no longer allow that.
anyways, if you read my other post you may feal i got what i deserved. if that is how you feal, you are entitled to feal that way. if you want to offer advice, that would be very nice. we filled up the last post with intel vs. amd. enough of that. we already established neither one is better than the other. they both have their pros and cons. i dont know why amd people read the intel board and vice versa. unless people want to come over to the other side? i used to read the geforce board and look for people with problems, so i could tell myself geforce sucks. just to make myself feal better since i couldnt afford one, and desperatly wanted one.(i now have one).

im sure the usual story one would provide with the celeron 600 cc0 is they took it out of the box and it went 1008mhz. so maybe mine is just a dud. once again, it just goes to show, you win some, you lose some. no matter what brand of processor you chose.


any help on this matter is greatly appreciated,
sendatooli.

sendatooli
01-16-01, 09:50 PM
ughh, i just thought of what the first reply on this matter is gonna say. so before you say it, i will addresse the issue!

indeed,THERE IS NO GUARENTEE MADE WHEN OVERCLOCKING!
also, overclocking is supposed to take time and work to get there, thats the fun of it.
(well in this case there was a guarentee of sorts).

still, any help provided will be appreciated.
thank you,
sendatooli.

Socrates
01-17-01, 08:26 AM
You shoud see if you can go back and get the Tbird from your dealer. I saw your other post and held my toungue (i'm a huge AMD fanboy). The Tbird should be able to overclock to 1Ghz easily, with only air cooling. the only thing you need to secure is a good mobo, try either Abit's KT7A, or an Asus board.

Tachyon
01-17-01, 08:35 AM
Hey Guy,

I'm not sure why I'm writing this except to give you a response :)
I also don't understand what "help" you are looking for. You can take what I have to say as you choose, but no offense is intended.

It appears that you have a problem with your chip not getting to 1GHz. It also seems that you're not happy with the chip not making 100MHz on the bus.

Making 900+ MHz vs 1000MHz isn't that big of a deal performance-wise. Not making 100MHz is more important.

Cache size may or may not be a consideration, depending on how much the programs you run utilize the L2 cache.

Because there isn't, as you said, any guarantee in overclocking, what a person buys should be based on their needs and any extra performance gained from an overclock is gravy if you will.

If the person you bought your chip from took the time to understand what you were using the chip for and recommended a 66MHz chip because it would "get to 1GHz or you could take it back", then shame on him. If he didn't even ask what you needed it for, then shame on him again. If he asked, and told you that a different chip would perfom better based on your needs and you took that one anyway...well...what can I say.

Again, no offense intended here. :)