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Something
01-17-01, 01:58 PM
Hello!

Today I bought a Celeron II 700 (the price was about the same with 600 and 633).
What made me happy is the fact that my new processor is the new C II with cC0 stepping.
I've overclocked it and seems to be stable at 893MHz@85MHzBus, although i expected more...

I have the following question:
I'm working at 893Mhz now, with 1.85 volts (1,75 or 1.80 have no difference in stability though).
With bus speed set at 86,87 or 88 some software will create errors and Windows will stop responding (Win2000Pro). When set at 89 or above Windows won't start at all. At 100Mhz i can't even boot (monitor doesn't turn on), even with 1.95volts.
Do you think that a higher voltage would help me to run @90MHz FSB speed or higher?
And if yes would it be safe enough for the CPU? (My motherboard supports max 1.95, but i can trick it through the SlotKet)

My motherboard is an Abit BE6-II (newest bios) and i'm using the MSI Master Slotket (that can be set to 1.50-2.00v).
Note that i've set the L2 Chache Latency to the slowest setting available (i will try faster speeds later on, when i'm sure about the max stable frequency) and i've tried many PCI/FSB and PCI/AGP division settings.

Now i'm working with PCI/FSB = 1/1 and PCI/AGP = 1/2 without any problems...

Thank you!

Something

Tim-
01-17-01, 03:33 PM
Your problem is the one that plagues all coppermine celerons. The average core tops out around 900-950MHz. With the high multiplier chips this comes at low FSB and with the corresponding poor memory/bus performance.

This is the reason that you will find most people recommending the lower multiplier celerons such as the 566 and 600 for overclocking. At a given cpu speed- say 900MHz, a machine running 100-110FSB will have much better performance than a machine running 75-83 FSB.

I have a 533a at 896MHz and a 566 at 892MHz and the 533 will consistently beat the 566 on benchmarks.

Something
01-17-01, 04:21 PM
That's right, but i got the 700 one, because:
1) I think it can be re-sold easier than the 600 or 633
2) I thought that it would overclock better because it was a cC0 (all the 600s and 633s i could find were cB0s).

I've heared some lucky people have the 700s working at 100FSB (100x10.5=1050Mhz)...

Gallivant
01-17-01, 04:58 PM
nuthing wrong with a CBO celeron 633 or 600, - when ran @ 100 FSB - it will eat the 700 running at 83 FSB for breakfast. (for that matter it'll munch down on non O/C'd PIII 700-933 too) plus - it will be more stable ..

burly
01-17-01, 05:17 PM
I have been trying to get my 700 @ 100 FSB with no luck and from what I have found no one has been able to hit 100 fsb mark yet