Retail HSF good enough for 600E cc0 @ 800?

[ODiN]

I want to buy some 600E cc0 stepping CPUs and run them at 800, but would the retail Intel heat sink and fan be good enough? I have excellent case cooling as well... thanks in advance.

[Tim-]

There is really no way to know in advance. Different processors run at different temps. Add in different Vcore settings required for stability and the temps can be over a wide range. The general rule is that oem hsf combinations are inadequate for overclocking. If you want truly stable systems you need more cooling under heavy load than the oem hsf can provide.

[DocClock aka MadClocker]

I agree with Tim..the only way to know is to try it..and watch the temps...if they get too hot, either back 'em down, or go out and get a pair of alphas or global win coolers...for that matter, if 800mhz is all the clocking you want to do..then a couple of golden orbs will suffice,but I wouldn't push them any further with a G'orb...the neat thing about the G'orb is the price..about $16.00 U.S. Whatever you decide, keep one thing in mind when attaching the h.s. is these new chips can easily be crushed when attempting to install the h.s. especialy the flipchips, and their AMD counterparts. Good Luck

[dadx2mj]

What the others have said is true, but I think the odds are against you . I have a P3 600 running at 841 with a Global Win VOS-32 this cooler only costs about $30 and was well worth it.

[jmsandrsn]

Odin,
You haven't said whether or not your talking slot 1 or FCPGA but I don't think you'll have a problem either way. I've run a PIII 500 FCPGA at 750 and PIII 600 FCPGA at 840 with the retail HSF. I've also ran a slot 1 PIII 550E and PIII600E at 150 FSB using just the retail HSF. On the slot 1's, I did end up replacing the retail HSF with the Vantec 5030 and Alpha P3125 but they were still able to run stable with retail HSF. Adding the better heatsinks dropped the temps by about 20F(both CPU's went from somewhere in the 100F range down to the 80F range).

It also depends a little bit on the chip. I would say that most cCO's are going to be capable of at least 900 now. If you had an older 600 that was almost stable at 800, replacing the retail HSF with better cooling would almost certainly make a difference. If you had a 600 that would go up to 900, you could probably even do a sh1tty job installing the HSF and still be able to run at 800(up to maybe 120-130F). Of course, keeping your CPU cool is for the better since it will probably last longer.

[ODiN]

This P3-600e is FC-PGA. I didn't think they made the 600Es in Slot for that matter. In any case, it is a cC0 stepping and I do only plan to take the CPU to 800 at the moment. I guess I will wait and see what the temps are...

[jmsandrsn]

Slot 1 600E's were among the first coppermines that were released in Q4 of 1999. http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm

[Mike]

I think the chances are pretty good personally. Here is why:
If you BUY an 800EB, do you have to get a fancy heat sink? Or does the stock one work O.K.?
If you understand why these CPU's can overclock like they do, you understand that if you are buying an 800EB, it is the same CPU as a 600E. (Provided they are both Cco stepping) The only real difference is that one defaults to 100Mhz FSB, the other 133Mhz.
Just my 2cents.