12v dc pump to fit in 5 1/4" bay

[Shadowcat]

I am building my own integrated watercooling system to fit in a 5 1/4" drive bay. I have this pump: http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=82089

And the dimensions are pretty much perfect, I am just worried about using it in the very long term as it is not brushless.

I have tried for a VERY long time to extract information as to what the pumps used in kits such as the Aqualia are from the manufacturers but they were not too happy to tell me and they would not sell me one. I am interested in a brushless centrifugal pump that will fit easily in a 5 1/4" drive bay and that if possible should be 12v dc.

If anybody has one of the integrated kits and can tell me what the pump is, or if anybody knows of a pump that will be suited to the task, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks

[{BC}Helix]

the only thing I can see wrong with a setup using that pump is that it's submersable, which could pose a problem if you were using it in you're drive bay. if you could make a res that maybe used two drive bays and put it in there and used a high flow waterblock and HC then i don't think it would be too bad of a setup at all.

[SOShootME]

Shadowcat?? The Shadowcat of PantherDX-Pro fame?

That pump puts out about 150 Gallons per hour... if my early Christmas morning math is correct. (Specs say 8.5 quarts/min, so 2.5GPM x 60min)

That isn't a lot of flow, but if your goal is to have a small WC foot print in your case and a quiet PC it may work well enough. At least, that is usually the finding of the reviews of the "in-bay" kits.

[FizzledFiend]

if you do not submerge this pump it will be HOT and I don't mean slightly warm I mean burn your fingers hot...that pump willl have to be submerged...trust me been there done that :|


which by the way will increase water temps defeating the purpose

[kusojiji]

That pump draws 1.8 amps @ 12 vdc = 21.6 W. The mcp600 draws only 9 W @ 12 vdc = .75 amps.

[Shadowcat]

Nope, not that Shadowcat, although if any of you are in the UT/Unreal modding scene I'm Shadowcat of Team Orbit (www.planetunreal.com/teamorbit).

Anyway, I don't mind the pump having a fairly high power draw, I can cope with that, and it will be fully submersed in a small reservoir. The waterblock will be a custom made 'fairly' high flow block and the radiator will be a very simple custom made design. Everything in this setup is going to be custom made. The pump I have at the moment will work, and I have tested it for over 24 hours non-stop, it did not heat up the water and the noise was ok, however a brushless mag-drive pump would be more desirable, only I am having problems finding one that will fit in 1 drive bay, I would very much like to keep this project to fit in 1 bay.. the goal is OK performance and silence. This project is being totally documented so copies of everything (probably including CAD work) will be floating around once the project is done.

I just REALLY need to find out what those manufacturers that already have systems similar to the one I am building use for their pumps.....

[fhorst]

I've seen these pumps around; they are also as an inline type available. Biggest issue with these pumps is that they are not rated for continuous use! They are not 'mag driven" but they can move quite some water at high pressure.

I've heard ppl using them, but they need to change the pumps every 6 months or so.

One "good" small mag driven is the eden 106, but it is 220v
http://www.armchair.com/fountain/kits/kit2lg.html

[Shadowcat]

That is an interesting pump.. about the right size as well, although I would have to do some odd plumbing to get it to fit exactly in 1 bay..

I believe the pump I have now is rated for constant use (meant to power fountains etc) otherwise it would not have survived my test perioud. I did find a pump called the 'Nile' which is similar to my current pump and is rated for continuous use, however it was slightly bigger and had a brush life of about 500 hours...

Ideally I would love to get a 12v mag drive that is continuous rated... I know they exist (otherwise people like Pentalpha would not have some of their products) I just don't know where to buy them...

[lclark2074]

why not 120v pump ennyway make PS mod with a ext cord plug to run it.

[Shadowcat]

I could do that as well, voltage does not matter in particular, size does. I would like something that can actually fit in the unit (although in the long term it looks as if I will just have to use the bay unit for Res/Rad and have the pump external) but for now I would like something mag drive that fits in..

[Lothar5150]

You might want to check the dimensions on the Johnsons Pumps.

[Shadowcat]

hm.. I'm now considering abandoning the 5 1/4" bay project and making a unit that clips onto the back of a case on the extra fan spacer that they often have....