how to turn the FAILED Pentium 4 into a sucess (this'll be hard for intel)

[ExtremeOC]

well, after the P4 Blunder, i'm converting to AMD. but i've thought up something for INTEL to pull there ass outta the fire with. they should make the P4 what they originally intended, and call these chips a celeron! that way, they can sell them, and make a super sucessfull p4 with load of L1 cache and rework the whole core. any input on this idea is good, and BTW i am not rashing intel, we all know the P4 failed from what it was supposted to be. if intel desides to do an action like this, the P4 will be super-successful, and i'd even look at going over to intel again. but we all know the P4 was a failure from waht it was supposed to be, and is basicly a joke, and a waste of money. good luck intel, you'll need it.

[bruce]

From what I've read, the P4 wasn't supposed to suck as bad as it did, but in order to save silicon, they had to stick it with a ****ty Fpu. I think it could still be a hell of a success if they move quickly to the .13 micron fab and build a new Fpu from the ground up, and tell rambus where to stick their RdRam. The bandwidth of RdRam is nice, but I think real Intel engineers could show us the beauty of DDRRam, after all, Intel wasn't having any problems till Rambus came along. Still I agree, in it's current form with that ****ty Fpu the P4 is little more than a glorified under-achiever. Hey Intel, take a lesson from AMD, build a hulkin Fpu and concentrate on clock speed, stop depending on software optimization so much, that might never be used. Rember the days when Pentium meant kick-ass floating point performance and reliability, hehe, me niether, boy was that a long time ago.....IMHO!

[Mr B]

Hmmmmm..... Celeron III?? And how much would these Celery 3's cost then..........

Guy I work with is itching to buy a PC. He looks at the ads and sees P 4 @ 1.4 GHz. I told him I'd GIVE him my Celeron 300A before I'd let him BUY a P4.

All I hear is bad stuff, man. Major league fux-paus....

Mr B

[JaY_III]

calling a P4 a celeron is something i have thought to... after all the p4 on the market today is nothing more that what a celeron 2 is to a P3.. a cheaper stripped down version... Intel wil be ablt to save themselfs from this prob as the sicket the P4 is using is going to be changed very soon anyways...
By the time they put out the new socket they could fix the P4 at the same time and hope tht know one notices...

or make the P4 the new celeron and have the Fixed P4, the was is was ment to be a new, given a new name.... people would still think the Pentium name ment the best (even thought it now would mean value).. and the new name... Xeon, hey use that and people would think thier home PC was using server tech....

[hermfry]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. To me, the difference between a PIII and a P4 is not drastic whatsoever. I can't remember the exact comparison, but the I remember reading a review on the P4, stating the the performance differences between a PIII and P4 at very close clock speeds, was something like 2-4 percent. That doesn't exactly make me want to run out and buy a new P4. How about you?

[Mr B]

Why would I want to spend a mint on a P4 when my Celeron "945" (600 @ 945) cost me only $89.00 ????

I mean, 945 to 1400 MHz is quite a step, but when you get up that high, how noticable is it really??

Mr B

[Carmine_Paterno]

Sure the Pentium 4 has speed 1.3-1.5 ghz WOW but the bandwidth sux very badly. The only area it performs well in is memory. The P4 could be very drastically changed. I think buying a Celeron @ around 600-666 and o/cing that will give you very much more performance then the ****ty P4.