2100+ - Palamino or Tbred?

[dgk]

My trusty old MSI K7T266Pro can take a 2100+ Palomino and currently has a 1600+. If I can find one fairly cheap at the PC Fair that might be worth doing. So, are all 2100+ CPUs Palomino or do I have to be more demanding? How can I tell whether I found one?

[Kenshiro]

Check this link. It should help.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/

[DayUSeX]

i have a 2100+ pally and it dosnet overclock worth a darn. Go TBRED as those are better knowng overclockers than the pally.

[CCW]

Palamino - Square Core
Thoroughbred - Rectangle

Example of two possible codes (there are different codes):
AQXEA is Thoroughbred A
JIUHB is Thoroughbred B

Last letter of that code determines the core. Heres a picture:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=187709

Thoroughbreds use less voltage than the Palamino's so they run cooler and can overclock much higher.

Craig

[Kenshiro]

Originally posted by CCW

Thoroughbreds use less voltage than the Palamino's so they run cooler and can overclock much higher.

Craig

Correction, Palominos super suck at overclocking. This should be a more correct statement. LOL
I used to have a 2000 palomino and it overclocks from 1.67 to 1.74Ghz max. anything above that is unstable.

[CCW]

Er, re-read the statement, you will find it is proper English

Thoroughbreds use less voltage then the Palamino's so they (the Thoroughbreds) run cooler and can overclock much higher.

[Kenshiro]

Well, I'm just slamming down on the Palominos.

[CCW]

You were but you were also slamming down on my statement which you didnt read correctly thus I had to justify my statement so other do not get the wrong impression about what I said.

Craig

[JigPu]

I can't speak on behalf of all Pally's just the 1800+ AGTIA :D

And it sucks. Stock: 1530MHz, Max OC (unstable): 1691MHz, Max OC (stable): 1668 MHz



I'm pretty sure a mobo that supports Pallys will also run TBreds (..if they don't my next upgrade might be mobo instead of CPU :eek: ), so go there if you can :)
JigPu

[Shade00]

Originally posted by CCW
Example of two possible codes (there are different codes):
AQXEA is Thoroughbred A
JIUHB is Thoroughbred B

AQXEA is a Barton or Thorton stepping code, not Tbred-A. An example of a Tbred-A is AIUGA.

Originally posted by JigPu
I'm pretty sure a mobo that supports Pallys will also run TBreds (..if they don't my next upgrade might be mobo instead of CPU :eek: ), so go there if you can :)
JigPu

Not all motherboards with support for Palominos will accept Tbreds. The Iwill KK266 and KA266 are two perfect examples. :rolleyes: In fact, this (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=27) page over at MSI's website says that the K7T266 Pro cannot support Tbreds, and it maxes at 2000+ for Palominos.

Edit:JigPu, what kind of motherboard do you run?

[dgk]

Hmm. My bad. I have the Pro2, which should be this (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=386). Hopefully, I can take the tbred. Actually I have the Pro2-RU, which has raid and ethernet. I shouldn't even need to behead a capacitor. Well, let's check ye olde PC Fair and see what bargins can be had.


No, edit here. That is the Pro2-U. My Pro2-RU is older and won't take the Tbred. Aarrgh. So it goes.

[CCW]

Originally posted by Shade00

AQXEA is a Barton or Thorton stepping code, not Tbred-A. An example of a Tbred-A is AIUGA.


lol sorry was trying to think of an example and thats all I could think of at the time

Craig