Overclocking potential of PIII 800, FSB100 ,slot 1 version?

[zulu]

Well , another option of upgrade/overclock , I found for my MOBO(aopen ax6bc)is:
to put PIII 800MHZ slot 1 FSB 100 (there are some in the market).
Is it have some potential due to it's FSB 100, or I'm wrong?
In the future I'll planing to overclock but how far ?
MOBO up to 133MHZ, with BIOS revision 2.25.
I know many of you prefer cely 600, but thought PIII is better for Games, isn't it?
Any of you tried overclocking this particular PIII?
How good is it?

[chris]

The 800E is a pretty good chip for o/c'ing. The o/clockability really is luck more than anything. The newer cCO versions are generally supposed to be better then the older stepping versions. So much depends on your other components as to how far you can o/c it. I could'nt get past about 980 until I switched to a GeForce2 GTS and then it carried on going to 1048. I dont want to push it any further just yet.

[Carmine_Paterno]

These chips don't always overclock well but if you are lucky you can hit 1100+. If you can't exactly hit 980 + try putting a heatsink/fan combo on your video card if it doesn't already have one. If it does, try upping the voltage, if that doesn't do it turn up the i/o voltage if that doesn't do it, use a water block/peltier kit. HOPE I HELPED!!!

[warduck]

The p3 800 is generally considered a poor overclocker.

Your better off with a P3 600 or 700. With good air cooling the p3 is limited to around a gig more or less u just get more overclock for ur buck with a smaller cpu.

And if u want to spend a lot of money u can get a refigerated case an use peltier an watercooling an go a little beyond a gig.

[wild_andy_c]

the warduck has the gist of it. The ultimate overclocker is too rare to obtain which is the 600e cC0. So I guess a 650e or 700e cC0 should head your shopping list.

Remember that 7 x 100 = 700 and 7 x 133 = 933 which is obtainable.

The same cannot be guarnateed for 8 x 133.

The lower the multiplier the more chance of a higher FSB and memory clock that you have. Fast processors are useless crap without fast memory.

There is also the issue of the PCI bus speed that arise with the 800.

To conclude I would state - Go 700

[bdf24]

I have a 800E slot 1. This chip is a dog. I am very disappointed in it. I cannot run any higher then 960mhz without sacrificing stability. I have tried everything except water cooling the chip, As well as every different setting you could imagine! I had a peltier on it but that didnt help. It brought the temps down but couldnt run her any faster.

My problem is my chip is a cbo stepping. If you can get a cco stepping you are better off.

But all in all go for the 700e you will get more bang for your buck.

[Big Lar]

I run the 800E Slot1 here, however I run with a single Peltier and Water Cooling, It's a Cbo, and I can run at 1120 with it, but it needs 1.9v to be stable at 1120, I run it daily at 1064 at 1.8v with my Asus P3b-f

[hiamperage]

bdf24 (Feb 18, 2001 03:32 p.m.):
I have a 800E slot 1. This chip is a dog. I am very disappointed in it. I cannot run any higher then 960mhz without sacrificing stability. I have tried everything except water cooling the chip, As well as every different setting you could imagine! I had a peltier on it but that didnt help. It brought the temps down but couldnt run her any faster.

My problem is my chip is a cbo stepping. If you can get a cco stepping you are better off.

But all in all go for the 700e you will get more bang for your buck.

Mine is also stuck at 960 but rock stable.. 960 at 1.75 volts on asus p3b-f with alpha p3125 / ys tech fans

i have never been able to get above 120 fsb with this board, and i am on my third video card (successive upgrades) .. now with geforce 2 ultra.. oh well this will hold me until i get a new system

[Ryan]

I would get a slotcket and buy the fc-pga version of the chip, better resale value later on ebay or a better upgrade path to a dual p3 system if you want. Then you can also take advantage of the CC0 stepping which has slightly better results than the CB0. Since you have a BX board don't listen to the people who think you should use a 600 or 650 chip and 700 is pushing it. Your AGP will likely crap out on you when you try and hit 1 gig with the lower multiplier chips. You have to pay a slight premium for a 8x multiplier but the chip will overclock to the same speeds as a 7x multiplier. The only drawback is that your memory bus won't be as fast as with a lower multiplier chip. You have a better shot at 1 gig with a BX board on a 8x chip, 125X8 won't overclock anything except your agp since you can set 1/4 pci; where a 143X7 will likely cause your AGP to crap out if not your ram. I currently have a P3 800 CC0 at 1032 on my Abit BE6-2

[Mr B]

wild_andy_c (Feb 17, 2001 12:12 a.m.):
the warduck has the gist of it. The ultimate overclocker is too rare to obtain which is the 600e cC0. So I guess a 650e or 700e cC0 should head your shopping list.

Remember that 7 x 100 = 700 and 7 x 133 = 933 which is obtainable.

The same cannot be guarnateed for 8 x 133.

The lower the multiplier the more chance of a higher FSB and memory clock that you have. Fast processors are useless crap without fast memory.

There is also the issue of the PCI bus speed that arise with the 800.

To conclude I would state - Go 700

Hey Andy,

How's the 600E cB0 for overclocking? I got one recently, but until I get in a mb that will allow me to raise the voltage for a slot one processor, I max out at 719 at default. This is also with the intel hsf.

I've got too many irons in the fire right now, but I'm planning on an Alpha P3125 for this chip when the $$ swings free.

Any ideas what I might reasonably expect? 900MHz? (if my RAM will take it?)

Mr B

[warduck]

The p3 600e cbo slot, has been know to kick nicely. Ofcourse its always the luck of the draw. If yas gets lucky youll hit 900mhz an more.

Track down the madclocker here, he gets a gig or so out of his with air cooling. He says hes limited by his ram. Nice Problem to have.

warduck

[DocClock aka MadClocker]

I have a slot one cB0 600e(oem SL43E), and it will top out at 158fsb,although I just got rev3 Mush'n and I am only using air cooling...with an Alpha P3 125 with arctic silver...this probably could do more, unfortunately this board only goes to 1.9v vcore...I'm sure with 2.05v I could reach a gig.
As far as the 800E goes, I just think it is just a 600E with the multiplier set to 8x rather than 6x...like Warduck said, your money would be better spent with a 600e,650,700e,and the 750. check out pricewatch.com for current prices on chips.BTW,DaNut over at pcnut.com says the 650 CCo is not good for clocking in their experience...I believe they said they were reffering to the flipchip ver

[bdf24]

My old 600E which was cBo stepping ran @ 822mhz for around 6 months rock solid untill I sold it for this 800E. That chip rocked! I know with better ram I could have gotten her even higher.