View Full Version : new piii700 won't run at 933
Mr. Potatoehead
02-17-01, 08:59 AM
I just got a piii700e sl3xxx which on intel's page says is an oem, but my came in the retail box.
I have a gorb on it, will boot into win2k, but hangs before
it finishes. Have bump the voltage up to 1.85 but no go.
Ram settings at 3-3-3. (trying 933), runs fine at 700.
bx6.2, mushkin pc133, creative labs geforce2, adaptec scsi card, ibm hard drive,maxtor hard drive.
any suggestions, do I need to burn in? At what speed and
how long.
Also, is the orb suppose to be warm, when i touch it, it feels cool.
The H/S should be warm. Download MBM and find out what your temps are. I'm not a fan of GORBs, but maybe it just isn't sitting flush on the CPU slug. Make sure there's some thermal compound, Here's a link for MBM if you don't have it.
http://www.overclockers-network.com/ocndownloads/mbm5pb27.exe
Also, some older Abit boards have been funny about running at exactly 133 MHz. Try 129 MHz or 135 MHz if you have those selections.
Ericsson
02-17-01, 09:28 PM
from the s-spec code you gave, it seems you got a cA2 Pentium III 700.
that means your cpu maxes around 800-850. good luck buddy...
Not necessarily a ca2- there are SL3XX and SL3XM 700s that are cb0. There are no S codes with 6 digits I have ever seen- what is it exactly?
DocClock aka MadClocker
02-18-01, 02:01 AM
Sounds real shady if you ask me..the cpu is an oem by spec, and packaged as a retail, I would suspect that they are testing everything thet comes in, and selling the non overclockable ones as "retail" and the cloclable ones sre being sold for a lot more...and it is nothing to put new plastic on a box and make it look like it never was opened. I think intel should implement a way to defeat this kind of ripoff...because if this kind of bull is allowed to continue, we are garanteed that the only way to get a chip that is clockable is to pay extra for a "pretested cpu" which is not overclocking at all, it's just being a sucker...I wonder if the company that you bought your cpu from also sells "pretested cpu's".
As with everything else overclocking has become mainstream, and is a target ripe for comercialization,and exploitation...and we the true clockers are going to suffer the concequences of the tricks of capitalism...like the cpu "switch".
at least they can't afford the P4's in abundance, so pretesting will be lagging on those for a little while.
I guess I'm done with my rant. but my sig says my feelings in a nutshell ;-)
i have an sl3vl what type of processor is that OEM or retail I bought off a friend and any idea how much overclockable it is I cant get it to do more than 840mhz
Ericsson
02-18-01, 04:29 AM
well...then remember the general rule; not all chips overclock the same. just 'coz somebody's processor gets this high doesn't mean yours will definitely go that high also.
=)
Mr. Potatoehead
02-18-01, 07:36 AM
it's a sl3xx, i bought it from www.allstarshop.com, no they don't sell pretested. When i bought my 300a a couple of
years ago, intel was running short on retail chips, so they starting shipping oem chips as
retail. Well, I bought 2 of these sl3xx, 1 for me and 1 for my cousing, haven't tried his yet. Jan manufacture date 2001, philipines, the box also includes intels 3 year warranty and the seal of the plastic box on the inside was not opened.
I wouldn't give up yet. Those Golden Orbs are pretty good coolers if you lap them real smooth and get rid of that crappy heat tape that comes on it and put some good thermal paste on it. Still, a good Alpha or GlobalWin is much better. Anyway, either tweak that Gorb or get a better cooler, than try jumping up to 1.9v, I'll bet it'll do 133 fsb, if your cooling's good. After a couple weeks of burn in, you probably can turn it back down to 1.85v. Good luck!
athlon eater
02-18-01, 11:46 AM
Ericsson (Feb 17, 2001 09:28 p.m.):
from the s-spec code you gave, it seems you got a cA2 Pentium III 700.
that means your cpu maxes around 800-850. good luck buddy...
zPacKRat
02-18-01, 01:24 PM
makes me wanna call intel and ask wtf????????????
i too purchased an sl3xx as a retail chip (next time i'll check the spec charts first.)
however I've been able to hit the 933 mark stable at 1.90 volts which on my be62 v2 ranges in reality from 1.85-1.90 volts in mbm.
So was my purchase a bad one? dunno i cannot seem to get this setup stable unless i keep in line queue depth set at 1 rather than 8 and at 1 I get awful memory benchmarks in sisoft sandra. They come in right around 200 for both. However when I can get the memory benchmark to run with in line queue depth set at 8 my benchmarks kick ass around 400-450. does any one know of a way to stabalize my system while improving memory benchmarks.
Just chillin
zPacKRat
Thanks for the tip on the Order Depth thing. I have had mine at 4 on my SE6. I only have a choice of 4 or 1. I changed it to one and my memory scores also suffered, but there was no increase in stability.
I am stable at 933. I have done benchmarks at the Wintune site at 959, but that is as high as I can boot.
Nice information to know. Thanks. ^_^
Mr. Potatoehead
02-18-01, 02:45 PM
my abit bx6.2 only goes up to 1.85.
I guess i'll try to lap it, or break down and get a alpha. Any recommendations on where to get an alpha and artic silver?
Mr. Potatoehead
02-18-01, 09:08 PM
I lapped the da.. thing, and I got it running once at 903 with the case off. When I put the
case back on blue screen of death. Running right now at 868 at 1.8.
I guess this is the max.
vipez888
02-18-01, 10:03 PM
Hey I have a P3-700 SL3XX FCPGA OEM, its from Phillipines and its a Cb0 that overclocks well up to 994mhz @1.9V.
I Guess you just didn't lucky, and yeah I have to agree not all chips overclock the same, but it would be nice if that were true.
warduck
02-18-01, 11:43 PM
He could have gotten a repackaged pretested oem. The duds of the overclocking world. The pretesters have to get rid of their junk sum how. That may be all thats left out there.
warduck
Mr. Potatoehead
02-19-01, 08:48 AM
I don't think it was pretested, it was shrink wrapped in intel plastic, the label on
the box has sl3xx on it.
I have it running at 868 at 1.7 volts now.
Mr. Spudhead, I still think it'll do 933 with better cooling and using 1.85v, if that's the most you can go. That's less than 10% over the default voltage, so you'll be ok, as long as you have good cooling. You might need to add a case fan or two and may I recommend the GlobalWin FOP32. It's a bargain at a sale price of $19 at the below listed URL. I've ordered from Directron before and I got my package in two days. Email confirmation back on the same day I ordered. They sell Arctic Silver too, but there is much cheaper thermal paste that works almost as good. The cheap Radio Shack stuff ain't too bad. Good luck, you can do it! Cooling and higher voltage is the key.
http://www.directron.com/fop32.html
My personal experience is that cooling is everything. and I dont mean dropping your system down from 35c to 25c I mean getting realy cool!
My pIII 700e hit 933 right out of the box with factory settings for the 933 and stock fan and heat sink. And it was running at 39c. I thought hey this was way to easy I'll go for 1gig. I managed to boot up into windows a few times at 1 gig but always with reg errors. I figured I had to cool things off a bit more. If it would hit 933 at 39c it would probably hit 1 gig at 25c. I cooled it down to 25, got errors 20c got errors, 15c and I was still getting errors. I thought if im still getting errors it must be one of my other cards or the ram.
I swapped everything out and tried again. Still I got errors. Then I got really aggressive with the cooling. I dropped it down to -1c. Presto running rock stable at 1001mhz.
So here's the big picture. From 700 - 933 was no problem even with the stock fan. But to go that extra 70 mhz required me to cool the chip by 40c.
Mr. Potatoehead
02-20-01, 08:46 AM
i had it running at 933 1.85 for a few minutes with the case off, and got the blue
screen of death, back off to 900 with the case on, same thing,
running at 868 now down to 1.65 volts(seems stable at this speed).
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