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captain_sHiFTy
01-10-04, 02:44 AM
Hi, my name's Liam, and im a recovering Morrowind addict.

I decided to write this Morrowind guide for beginners because of this thread http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=259410 .
So many people seemed to have quit this AWSOME game just because of the steep learning curve, and the dauntingly large map.

So i decided to write a breif guide to this game from my memory (refreshed a bit by looking through a few maps etc).

If anyone really finds this helpful and wants more I'd be happy to reinstall the game and do a little more research for a more extensive guide. I just don'twant to waste the time if no-one's going to find it useful :P.

The first thing i suggest for Morrowind is deciding upon what kind of character you want. In the long run it doesnt make too much of a difference what class you choose, as the leveling is so openended you pretty much end up becoming a mixture of all classes anyways:). Personally, i chose a stealth-oriented character, as i tend to prefer roleplaying a thief. Morrowind also offers some really good opportunity for doing so, so i didn't regret my choice.

What i DID regret however, is my choice of race. If you can, download a few skin mods, or choose a good looking race. I chose a wood elf. Should have chosen a Dark elf...but oh well. Dark elf i think is the best race, with a 75% resistance to fire. check out this site

http://www.gamebanshee.com/morrowind/races.php

for some info on all the races. They also have a very detailed walkthrough if you get stuck on any of the main quests.
Don't pick argonian or khajit. both are "beast" classes, and can't use boots or helmets. in the long run, you would REALLY regret this, as theres so many kikass of both out there. in the end you re left with just dark elf, wood elf, breton, redgaurd, imperial, nord, high elf, and orc
nords, redguard, and orcs make the best fighters. Bretons and high elves make the best mages, wood elves and dark elves make good thieves ( as well as archers), and imperials are pretty good all around. Dark elves are IMO the best all around. i picked an ugly wood elf for my character tho :P. Not that it really matters in the long run again. But when you re starting off, a bad race choice for your personality is a really bad idea. You end up wanting to do things you cant, such as running your wussy wood elf thief into a cave full of nasty undead monsters :P (did that a couple of times). So pick wisely. Dont worry too much about the stats, again they only really matter in the beginning. focus more in their special abilities (found in the guide on gamebanshee).

And finally, before you start, make sure to download a few key mods. A house mod is key. I find balmora ones the most useful, as you spend an unproportional amount of time in this city. Later in the game, you will be able to get a house of your own, but they re all so far away from anything.

And lastly make SURE you download a mod that will lower the aggressiveness of the wildlife. The wildlife in morrowind is rather aggressive, and will literally chase you across the entire map for no reason at all. And when you re just starting, and can be killed by just about anything (especially those pesky rats), then this mod is invaluable.
Also, you might want to find a no-cd hack. Morrowind checks to make sure your cd is still inserted, and is a valid cd, every few minutes. This can decrease performance.

Now for starting the game. After starting in the boat and giving your name, and the brief walk to the customs agency, you will be given the opportunity to create your character. You have the choice of using premade classes, or making your own.
I strongly recommend making your own class, but if you feel uncomfortable with this, then you can create your own. If you choose to use premade classes, then you will be answered a series of questions. You will be given a situation, and given three possible answers, a stealth-thief type answer, a violent-fighter type answer, and an intelligence/magic-mage type answer. Choosing different combinations of the three answer types will give you a wide array of character classes.

If you make up your own, you will be given a list of skills and attributes and asked to choose. From the long list of possible skills, you may choose 5 major skills, 5 minor skills, and the rest become misc skills. Your major skills will start at 50, while your minor skills will start off at 30. (correct me if im wrong there). As you use each of your skills, a status bar (for each) will slowly accumulate until it gets to full and you gain another point in that skill. Once you have gained 10 such points, you will gain another character level once you go to sleep. Only points gained in major and minor skills count towards gaining levels (which is why this is such an important part of character creation, as bad major/minor skill choices can drasticly change your character's level progression)
This also ties in with how your character's stats progress. Each skill has a governing attribute, for instance the athletics skill has a governing attribute of speed, while longblade skill has a governing attribute of strength, etc. . When you go to sleep, you will be given a short explanation of your characters revelations upon his newfound...i dont know what. What really matters to you is the stats it will list. You will have three points. Each point may be put towards raising a certain stat by one. Depending on the skill points you accumulated towards your current attribute, you will gain a multiplier in the governing attribute of that skill, which will help you increase your stats faster by raising them by more than one point.
For example, if you did a whole lot of fighting with your longblade, and all ten points you gained were in your longblade skill. Longblade is a strength skill, so when you go to choose your stat point placements, there will be a 5x or so multiplier next to the Strength choice. So you will gain 5 points in strength (if you put one of your point choices in strength), and 1 point in each of the other stats you choose.
once again, use gamebanshee to read up on all the different skills, as im not going to use up space here to list them all.
http://www.gamebanshee.com/morrowind/skills/combat.php
one skill you SHOULD pick however, as one of your minor skills, is acrobatics. The skill of jumping. Jump EVERYWHERE you go in morrowind. its massively useful for travelling (especially once you get good at it. at max jump skill, with not too much of a load in your inventory, you can jump absolutely massive distances, often you can hop right up the side of a mountain and down the other).
plus, having such an easy skill to level up in makes you level a whole lot faster. Also, make sure that at least one of your major skills is in a weapon class, and at least one is in an armour type. If you plan on being a mage, put a spell class or two in there too. If you plan on being a fighter, shields are always useful. If you re going to be a thief, sneak and security are musts. Mercantile or speachcraft are also good for major/minor skills. The better you are at mercantile, the better buy/sell rates you will get from merchants. And the better your speechcraft skill, the more people you meet will like you. and the more they like you, the more readily they will give up information. And if at first they dont like you, you can always flatter them with a fairly high rate of success. saves alot of money bribing officials for information for quests :D

now that you ve chosen all your stats, you can start the game.
you re given a mission to go to balmora. From where you start in Seyda Neen, its northeast. You can either follow the marked roadsigns, or you can go up near that giant flea shaped thing you see. Those are called stilt striders. Talk to the man/woman standing next to it and they will let you travel to different destinations for a small fee. You can travel on boats in the same way. This is the fastest mode of travel available to you if you are not part of the mages guild. As a part of the mages guild, you may also use mage guild guides that teleport you to different mages guilds scattered all over the island.

At first level, its difficult to do much of anything. Once you get to balmora, find Caius Cosades. Hes the guy ur supposed to go to. He will start you off on the main quest, as well as help you out. Try doing some of his missions in Balmora, and following his advice. He's scripted by the game-makers to help you newbies out, so listen to the man ;)
Also, make sure you join the guilds. The thieves guild is in the South Wall Corner Club (same side of the river as Caius), while the mages guild and fighters guild are right next to each other near the stilt strider. The missions given by these guilds are also very good for beginners. Most of them are simple fed-ex missions too, so not very complicated.
If you re a fighter, you could also take the stilt strider up to Gnaar-Mok, and join the legion. The legion is VERY good for beginner fighters, offering you a wide supply of good equiptment to start off. The guild supply chests near the entrance of each guild is good too. They re always being restocked, and you can make good money off selling those goods.

If you're having trouble killing things in your weak, newbie stage, then the best approach to killing enemies is the hit and run approach. Use a bow, or another fast weapon to hit your enemy, then run away from them, using healing spells/potions you have saved in quickslots. Lure your enemy to an area load door, and go outside once you re in desperate need of healing. Rest until your hp/edurance is healed, then quicksave and go back in for another round of fighting. This approach can let you slowly kill just about any enemy in the game.

Once you re strong enough, its looting time. Buy a cheap dagger with paralyze, this thing will come in handy. Then take the strong weapon of your choice. Join the thieves guild if you havent already, then head for the trader in Balmora. Ra'Virr the trader in Balmora is my favourite kill. Hes got loads of crap in his little house, and after i kill him i tend to use that as a semi permanent residence. Hold down the sneak button, move in behind him, then backstab him with your paralyze weapon. Then switch quickly to the big guns and take him out. IF you can kill him before he can take out his big nasty axe, it makes all the difference. Make sure you saved before you do this.
Ra'Virr has some amazing weapons in his stash. Once you ve killed him, quickly run to the thieves guild and down into the basement and talk to the guy wearing the funny blue shirt. For half the price of the bounty on your head (the downside of committing crimes in morrowind), he will clear up your problems with the authorities for you.
If you could not join the thieves guild, then drop everything you have and find a guard. Talk to him, and pay off your fines with him. If you have anything on you that is stolen, it will be taken from you. If you accidently lose an item this way, then head down to your local legion depot and make your way down to the basement. Theres a locked chest named "evidence" that holds anything they've confiscated.
Once your legal troubles are all cleared up, head back to Ra'Virr's and pick up your new loot. He has several swords worth up to 9000 dollars, and lots of good equiptment for you. Go sell what you dont want to buy some equiptment for yourself, and go back to doing quests. Hint: never kill a merchant who has more than 300 or so dollars to buy items off you, or will buy all types of items. Finding merchants who will take your goods are invaluable.
Making the most of the merchants in morrowind is another large facet of the game. In Pelegiad, one of the manors (cant remember which), has a house full of orcs. If you travel up to the top, you ll find al ittle gremlin dude. He will buy anything off you for up to 500 bucks at as close to its actual buy/sell rate as you can find in the game. Just sell him some small things first. Then go to sleep for 24 hours so he replenishes his money. Then you can go back and sell him more stuff. Once you get to your big items, buy all your small items back off him until he has enough money to buy your expensive item off you. Then sleep and replinish his money and sell all your small items back.
The only better merchant in the game is the mudcrab. He's on the islands just to the east of Vivec. Hes just labeled as a regular mudcrab, so good luck finding him. I had trouble doing it myself.
That's all the information i could think of at the moment. I'm really tired and i think im gunna go to bed in a bit. If anybody else has any more info to contribute, just pm/email me and i ll stick it in here (and give you some credit for it :) ). Or if anybody has anything they want me to cover do the same.

Happy adventuring!

Melhisedek
01-10-04, 04:55 AM
More, MORE!!!
Man you should be Dungeoun Master or something =) Guide is great... If you are open for suggestions I would like to see links to mods I should install, and a little how-to install them!

Great work mate!!!

I wote sticky!

YellowDart
01-10-04, 01:18 PM
Very nice guide! Just reading it makes me want to go play though it again!!! :D

Mod linkage would be good!

OC Noob
01-10-04, 01:50 PM
Nice work, I can't wait for your tips on theiving.

XeRoFuN
01-10-04, 02:59 PM
Yeah, good guide. I quit playing Morrowind because I got frustrated over it...think I wasn't ready for the vastness. :D Now I gotta start a new character because I have no idea where I backed up my saves. Bah...:(

captain_sHiFTy
01-10-04, 04:43 PM
crap, i just wrote a list of all the mods people should get, but it wudnt let me post it so now i have to rewite it.
arg, thats really annoying

i had a huge list of links before i had to rewrite this post, so im only gunna post a few, and you can search morrowind files for the rest of them.
try to stay away from mods that take away too many restrictions on something, or give you merchants with extra money or items that are way too good. these tend to ruin the game and you ll regret having used them.

http://morrowindfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

morrowind files is the best website i ve found for downloading mods. this is the download section.

to install, download the mod, and extract it into your morrowind/data files folder.
esp files are plugin files, and go in morrowind/data files. textures go in morrowind/data files/textures, meshes in the mesh folder there too, icons in the icons folder.
To activate the plugin files, go into the Data Files section in the autorun menu, and check all the modules you want to activate.

make sure to create a new save after all the modules are activated, as if one of them corrupts a quest and you need to go back, its easier if you dont have to go ALL the way back to the beginning and start over :D



http://morrowindfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=161

This is the best house mod i ve found. It gives you some really nice storage rooms, an alchemy room with labelled bottles for all your ingredients (labelled with name AND picture of ingredients).

also has a dummy for wacking with your sword to train your skills, and whole ton of manikins for storing your armour. They actually wear the armour you put on them, and it looks REALLY cool when they re all full. i spent several days finding them all.

the official plugins (http://morrowindfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=1) all help alot.

before you download the patches tho, consider this.

it fixes a few cool things you can do.
You can no longer drop bound items. Bound items are created with an item ability or a spell. Item ability bound items replace the item with a bound item of the same type (usually). Bound items are really good items that give you +10 to the skill in question, weigh nothing at all, and do alot of damage. Ra'Virr (who i suggested you kill and loot), has several of these. If you use the spell to create the bound item, then drop it, you can pick it up and it will stay forever, instead of going away in a minute or so.

Also fixed is the item fury. It used to permanently damage your armour skills, which is a pain in the a**...unless you have them as major skills. then you can train them back up to where they were before and level up a TON.

Theres a few other fixes, but those are the most important ones.


the miscellaneous mod section ( http://morrowindfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=12 )
is by far the best section.

make sure you download a few of the extra creatures mods, some of the quest fix mods, the mod that makes wildlife more docile, as well as any others that suite your fancy.

if you find any links to other good mods, pm them to me. avoid posting them please unless you have a really long list of them, as id prefer this post to stay fairly clean so that people needing to use the guide dont have to look too far for information

thanks

captain_sHiFTy
01-10-04, 05:16 PM
Being the master morrowind thief, i thought it might help a few people to hear me give some advice on thieving in morrowind.

Of all the games i ve played, morrowind gives by far one of the best thieving experiences out there.

Make sure to join the thieves guild, obviously lots of good thieving opportunities here.

If you wanna try being an assassin too, join the morag tong. You will need to travel to vivec to do so. Its in the colluseum canton (or the stadium one..or whatever its called i cant remember). You travel to the bottom floor and find your way into the water works. On one side theres a door into the storage room. In here is a good bit of loot, as well as a few rats. You will also find a very well locked trap door. Unlock and untrap it (use an ekrash's locksplitter scroll if you re not good enough to pick the lock. You can find these in the smuggler dens found all over the wilderness in caves and mines). inside is the main guildhall of the morag tong, the official assassins guild of vanderfell. Talk to the dark elf on the very top floor to get missions. the other guys in the guild have some good thieving things to sell you, as well as good training opportunities (pay them money to increase a skill by one point each time).

Vivec is also the best place for thieving. In each house canton, you can find a treasury. Each treasury is a well guarded safe house, full of tons of very valuable items. In order to break into these, you re going to need a good sneak skill, a good telekinesis scroll/spell/item, a good lock pick with a good security skill level, and a bit of patience.

The easiest i found was the house hlaalu one. The treasury consists of two well locked doors, and very well guarded. You re going to need to get by both guards, and pick both locks, to get in.
One of the people i had to kill for a morag tong writ had a key to the first level door i beleive. He's in one of the manors in the hlaalu compound. Use his key to unlock the first door, then hit sneak. Sneak past the second guard so he doesnt turn around, then turn to make sure nobodies looking. Still holding down sneak, unlock the second door, either with your scroll or with your pick. Then go into the treasury room.

Now i beleive theres still two guards in this room. leave the door open and try to herd them out the door, or just wait until they leave. Once they re out close the door. Now carefully steal everything you can where they cant see you. For the remaining stuff, hide in the corner of the room where they cant see, and use your telekinesis to take all the items and unlock all the chests. If you become encumbered, then use a mark scroll/spell to mark the place where you re standing. Then use the teleport to your house (the one in the mod listed in the last post), or use a scroll of divine or alimsivi intervention. This will take you to the nearest imperial shrine or temple. Drop all the loot here, or take it to one of your houses, before using a recall spell/scroll to return to the place you marked in the treasury. These spells also come in very handy for when you re looting dungeons, or even just doing quests (mark the quest giver so that when you re done you can recall back to them, finish the quest, and get the next one).

Once you ve finished transporting all the items out of the hlaalu treasury, then you can calmly walk out of the building with none the wiser. Foolish hlaalu's.

The telvanni treasury is much the same. Pick the locked door without the guards seeing, then go in. Be careful, because this door will take you into a tiny hallway guarded by a storm demon dude (storm avatar? i cant remember what they re called). Kill him, then go out the second door. Now you re in a tiny little room full of two guards, tons of stuff, and one ONE door out... :S . Damned telvannis and their magic.
Use the telekinesis to take everything in the room from the corner where the guards cant see. i suggest teleporting out once you have everything, as leaving will make you fight another one of those demon dudes. might as well avoid it if you can.

The redoran treasury is the hardest. Two locked rooms, both with guards everywhere. Nowhere where they cant see you.
I used an invisibility spell, and a really high sneak skill to pick the locks right in front of them without them seeing, then sneaking by them and taking all the items. You can also find the keys hidden within the canton, but i was never able to find them.

If your sneak skill is not high enough, then theres a really easy trick for training it.

Just find some really stupid peasant somewhere in the game that doesnt move around at all. Then walk in behind them (without them turning around) and quicksave. Now put some kind of weight down on the sneak button in behind them.

Now leave the room.

Go take a shower, eat, do your homework, go out, mod your other computer ;) , or something else.

come back in a few hours and your sneak skill will have gone way up.

Using this same method you can train your athletics. Download the latest morrowind patch, then find a small pool with no fish in it, or swim WAY out into the ocean where theres no nasty little fishies (make sure you have an intervention scroll for this one). Or, find a corner.

Now hold the forward key into a corner of the pool that you ll keep swimming into and wont move. Or point out into the middle of the ocean. Or run into the corner of the wall. Now hit Q to keep heading in that direction. Leave the game for a few hours as well, and come back to find your skill increased.

Jumping everywhere will also increase your acrobatics skill. Its also a far faster way of travelling than walking is.

With your newly increased sneak skill, you can steal just about anything in the game. Having a high acrobatics will help too. Holding sneak, you can usually steal just about anything you want to without people seeing. If you're unable, then find somewhere were they cant see you and use a telekinesis spell to take it. Using your acrobatics skill to jump to places you cant be caught also helps (plus its good for missions with really nasty baddies. Just jump up onto a tree or rock and shoot arrows/spells at them until they die).

If you have anywhere where you want to steal something, and need some help, pm me with the location and i ll try to find a way. Or any additions to this guide pm me as well.

Happy thieving ;)

Papier
01-10-04, 05:51 PM
Very good guide. Btw, you got PM. :D

f00t
01-10-04, 07:57 PM
awesome guide man.

when I was playing morrowind, I went through all the grassland area and got tons of sweet stuff. I stopped plaing cause I had to go back to school and the workload is over- whelming.

man I miss that game. definately on my top 5 games i ever played

xace
01-11-04, 09:38 AM
I was once a Morrowind addict as well. And about every 4 months I start to play and become an addict over again lol. Have beaten the game over three times I still need a guide for things I miss for forget. So often I go to here.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
You can find patchs and new items here.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/index.php

captain_sHiFTy
01-11-04, 04:09 PM
heres some more info for the guide, courtesy of Papier

A few quests in Seyda Neen.

The very first quest you do is get the ring (that game forced you to take) and give it to forgath or whatever his name is. You'll get a major discount at the local store from now on.

Go talk to the guy that has all the questions that made your character, birth signs and so on. Ask him about a tax collecter and he'll say that one hasn't come back in a week. He'll the ask you to go find him (SAY YES!). The location of the dead tax collecter is west of Seyda Neen. Just follow the shore and you should find him. Get the money off of him and tax records (very important). Before you go back to that guy, go to the lady that lives in the light house. She's on the very top floor.Tell him about the tax collecter and she'll give you some potions if you find his killer. Now go back to that guy, give him the money and go after the killer. Bring up the tax records, read which one has not paid and ask around. You should be given instructions to his house. Be prepared to kill him. Look on his body for the ring and take it back to the lady. Now go back to that guy and get your reward money. You can now also use the killer's house as your own for now.

To get a discount on the silt rider, talk to a guy that's in the village (forgot his name. if anyone knows, please post) and ask him a few questions. Then he'll say mention his name to the silt rider and you'll get a discount. There is also another quest if you talk to the silt rider about the man whom you just talked to.


Also a note on beast races. For Kajiit, they make the perfect thieves. On my first thief as a kajiit, I managed to get 75 agility at lvl 1. I had no troubles stealing alot of stuff from the first building you begin in.

Argonians make for very good Alchemists and/or thieves. They are completely immune to poison and disease so you can raid most of the tombs in the game without having to worry things like corpse rot and so on. And since they have high agility (and high intelligence if you're a female argon) they make good thieves too.

*Spoiler for the Purists* Beast races can wear helmets, but not all. One of the strongest helmets in the game that beast races can wear is glass helmet. Glass armor is preferred by thieves and classes that has light armor.

Finally, here's some resources for pretty much everything Morrowind.

www.rpgplanet.com/morrowind
www.morrowindfiles.com
www.gamefaqs.com
http://www.elderscrolls.com/index.php
http://unforgottenrealms.net/downlo...string=Astarsis (Some very beautiful faces here)

captain_sHiFTy
01-11-04, 08:44 PM
Would anybody be able to post some info on beginning as a fighter/mage? I never went this route, so im not very knowlagable on it.

Papier
01-11-04, 11:49 PM
I never really liked the fighter/mage so I don't know much about 'em.

I think I'll add some more to your guide. :)

Some ways of gaining money... the honest way. Honest!

Like shifty said, you get the most gold and items by stealing. "But papier, I'm a good-doer two footer (Yes all good-doers are dwarfs :p)", in that case I'll write you some tips on getting some money.

Items to sell

There are several items that you can find in dungeons or old dwarf places that you can find good stuff. One big seller is Dwarf Coins. Dwarf coins are wort 50 gold a piece and they don't weigh much. If you're higher up, this isn't really a good option but if you're lower level then it's good.

If you have alot of strength, another item is Ebony. There is a mine south of Balmoria that is an Ebony mine. This is actually a quest. Find the mine, then go to Vivec. There is a haunted mansion inside one of the canteens that everyone talks about. Go there and find a Hlaalu official. You'll get some VERY nice rewards for the info you give him. :)

Hunting down Golden Saints and taking their items is profitable.

Remember to go to Caldera and find a Scamp. He'll be in a 3 story mansion with orcs in it. You can sell high-dollars items to him.
To sell some very high dollar items, sell him a few good items that are worth a grand or two. Then rest 24 hours so he can get his 5 grand back. Keep doing this untill you sold enough items that are equal to the cost of the item you're trying to sell. Then buy back all those items and finally sell that high-piece item. Tada, you're rich!

If you're an enchanter, you can make alot of money selling soul gems with creatures inside. Just remember though that you can't really sell golden saints' souls.... they're worth over a 100k gold!

An alchemists can have a very steady supply of gold by finding a town that constantly sells ingredients to make potions (go to gamefaqs.com and do a search on which shops that always sell an item.). In Balmoria, going to the mage guild's alchemist will sell you two items to make potions. Make them and sell them back for a profit. Keep doing this untill you're happy (or you're bored).

That's all I can think of for now. If anyone wants to add some stuff, go ahead!

OC Noob
01-12-04, 10:34 AM
Thanks for the great info, I just have a quick question.


I'm going to start over with the new info and want to steal stuff from some venders to get started. How do I steal items off shelves in stores when gaurds are around?

Is it just a matter of getting sneak up and getting where people have their backs to you? Or can you steal things from under their noses with a high enough sneak?

Also, what would be a good combination of thief/fighter (primarily thief) and most importantly, should I take magic skills for telekinesis and all those other spells mentioned?

ps, I am playing the Xbox GOTY edition, so I can't DL user made conent.

captain_sHiFTy
01-12-04, 11:24 AM
It's just a matter of sneaking around where people have their backs to you. Once your sneak is really high, then you can start stealing stuff from under their noses. But until then, its all about being a pro at stealing while they re not looking.
The redoran manor is a good place for stealing stuff too.

Taking magic skills as a thief/fighter isnt a very good idea. Too much multiclassing waters down your skill in each. Its best to pick just one and go with that, then multiclass as you start to get really good at your chosen class.
When you re low level, magic skills are basicly useless. You need to have a really good skill in the magic to have a good chance at success. Try to find a ring/amulet/sword etc with the magic power youre looking for.

If you really want, you could try going for a thief/mage and put a few mage skills into your major skills if you really want though. It'd work, but i dont know how well, having not played the mage much.

Personally, id just go for a thief and get the magic items for the magic.

captain_sHiFTy
01-13-04, 03:01 AM
ooh, another thing i remembered.

If you ever end up finding those "boots of blinding speed", dont sell them, whatever you do.

For those not familiar, the boots of blinding speed make you run super super super fast, at the coast of your vision (100% blindness constant effect).

Thing is, if you re partway through the main quest and have found the Cuirass of the Saviours Hide, then you re in luck. Wearing this makes you 60% immune to magika, which includes the magika of the boots. So therefore wearing the cuirass then putting on the boots makes you super fast...minus the blindness.

So you end up with a pair of boots of not-quite-so-blinding speed :D

using that linked with a high acrobatics skill jumping everywhere makes you go like stink. Like im talking straight up mountains and over the other side in no time. You end up just using the map to point where you wanting to go and going straight forward, no thought of obstacles in mind.

Melhisedek
01-13-04, 03:18 AM
Oh man !
Things you guys mentioned: maxing and finding stuff, selling, thieving, pursuing quests, being mage-fighter-thief all at once, economy and buying yourself free is what mede me buy this game with all of it expansions =) ( And this was before they gave out Gold Edition )
But as I said in other thread those rats, oh those rats =\

Anyhow I'm determined to play this game again as soon I got some free time on my hands...

One question for now :)
Can you be member of several guilds at the same time? And what happens if you leave your guild ?

Thank you for your time!

NicePants42
01-13-04, 08:43 AM
I recommend the gamefaqs.com boards. They don't suck too bad.

I'd like to add that magic is a huge asset in this game, especially when thieving.

Yes, you can be a member of all the guilds at the same time - as long as you don't annoy your guildmates, you'll be fine.

Firstly, one of the best modifications that you can make to this game is to increase the wealth of merchants - creeper in particular. This way you can actually sell valuable loot and make decent use of it.

Secondly, magic/enchantment is incredibly useful, and surprisingly cheap. In order to enchant something (either by yourself, or by paying someone) you must first know a spell that has the effect which you want to enchant. Then, you need to have a soul gem with a soul inside it. I can't remember the name of the spell effect that lets you capture souls, but I know it's mysticism.

All you thieves might like to get a ring/amulet that opens any lock
-just learn a spell that 'opens' something, and then you can enchant something with 'open 100 points on touch'. It will take a bit to recharge, but will open anything.

Levitation is also very useful, and very cheap. 1-2 points for ~25-30 seconds per use is usually what I start out with. If you need to stay levitated you can just use the item again whilst airborn.

Telekenisis and chameleon are also very useful for thieves and assassins. Keep in mind that if you attack someone from behind while sneaking, and they don't notice you before you attack, your damage is increased quite a bit.

Later in the game when you start capturing golden saint souls, you can start making constant effect enchantments - which is where the fun starts.

As a side note, an easy way to use the Boots of Blinding Speed with little or no penalty to sight is to make a spell or enchantment that grants you 60-100% magic resistance for 1-2 seconds. As long as you don the boots while the spell is active, your sight should be good. Nighteye also helps.

I'll also be around from 9-5 if you want to PM.

captain_sHiFTy
01-13-04, 01:04 PM
using the cuirass of the saviours hide is better :P

i found that chameleon was never really that effective. People always saw me anyways. i suppose you have to be sneaking while you have chameleon on? never tried that.

Invisibility is better. You can buy good potions/spells/items that will give you good invisibility.

If you wanna try for the chameleon, you can either buy a cheap ring or you can finish a quest for larrius varro in the legion fort near balmora, which includes killing everyone in the club near the stilt strider (and then taking all their stuff when you were finished :D )

i found nighteye was kind of a waste. If it really gets so dark that you re having trouble seeing, just turn up the gamma on your monitor, or the brightness of the game :P. using a constant effect nighteye might help too.


ENCHANTING

When you re good enough to start capturing golden saints and enchanting things, find and exquisite robe. Enchant it with a heal constant effect. I was only able to fit heal 1 point constant effect. doenst sound like much but this effect will heal you 1 hp every second, which saves you lots of trouble healing yourself all the time. Doing the same thing with exquisite pants/shirts might help too, but i beleive they dont have as good of an enchant value.


In order to enchant items, you must either have a really high enchant skill, or find a merchant who will do it for you (100% success rate but very expensive). Then you must find a soulstone. Theres different qualities of soulstones. Lesser, common, greater, etc. The more powerful the soul of something you re trying to trap, the better soulgem you will need. Golden saints have the best enchant power, with the soul expection of vivec (but killing him interrupts quests).

Once you have enough good, empty souljems, you should go out hunting. In earlier versions of the game, you only need to kill the creature, then use a capture soul spell or item effect to capture the soul of the creature. But in later patches you must cast it on the creature while its still alive, THEN kill them. For these later versions, its better to find a weapon that will cast it on hitting the creature. Only monsters, not humans, can have their soul captured.

Once you have the soul captured, then you can enchant something. The power of the soul you have determines how much power your item will have (how much charge until the item is drained). Then you have to choose an item to enchant. Different items can hold a different amount of enchantment(called enchant value). The more powerful the enchantment, the higher the enchant value. You must balance out the power you want with the enchant value of the item, with the charge it will take to the charge available in the soul gem. The best items to enchant are daedric weapons, or the ebony staff if you re a wizard.

For an example, i enchanted two swords with enchant value 20. The souls i had trapped gave me 200 charge (i beleive, they were golden saints). I made one sword that did 66-100 fire damage, and one that did 66-100 cold damage. i made two in case either one ran out, or i found a creature immune to one of the two damage types (such as nords who are immune to cold). Fire and cold are opposites, so i assumed that any creature immune to one would not be immune to the other. I also enchanted my glass shield to heal me 300 points of health (for those nasty fights where they hit you for aLOT of damage), and my cloak for 1 point constant effect.

*****make sure you check the activation for your spell effect.
-Constant effect takes up aLOT of enchant value, and costs alot of money from an enchanter, and its effect lasts forever, or happens every second (such as in my healing cloak, healing 1 pt per second).
-on hit effects activate only when you hit a creature/person. Best for weapons (obviously).
-on target are ranged effects. You must specifiy a range for these spells as well. This is the default, so you often find yourself accidently making an on target effect spell instead of the constant effect or on hit you were looking for. LOOK OUT
-on self i beleive is the last one. This one you just have to specify when to use it, and it will only affect you. These are for healing spells etc.


A good way to increase your enchanting skill is to make a ring or something that deals 1 point fire damage to you, and heals you one point on self. so dealing damage and healing you at the same time. Useless item for anything other than training your skill. If you have a golden saint as the charge, this item will get tons of uses. Just keep casting it until it runs out, then sleep until its recharged. Your enchant skill will slowly increase (increases when you enchant items, or use enchanted items).

Hope this helped

any more topics people want covered?

Robrules18
01-13-04, 03:09 PM
i eneded up quiitting it becasue i got halfway through with my main house (the theif one) and ended up just installing house mods and sucha dn oign crazy with all the cool mods and not actually moving forward in the game...

NicePants42
01-13-04, 04:08 PM
Ha. Chameleon is the bomb if you have over 100% constant effect. No one EVER notices me, even when I'm not sneaking, standing right in front of them, trying to speak to them. With 103% chameleon, I get "who's there" about 70% of the time when I try to talk to people. It's so good it's annoying. All done with 2 rings and a skirt.

Night eye is great at 80% constant effect. What else are you going to use an exquisite belt for?

Also, exquisite shirts, skirts and pants can each have restore health 2 and restore fatigue 1 constant effect. They are better than the robes.

I have beaten this game up down and sideways. :)

captain_sHiFTy
01-13-04, 04:20 PM
me three.
I uninstalled it cuz i had to reformat (backing up everything took 3 cds)
i wanna reinstall, but i think one of my cds is scratched and wont read. Turtle wax fixes that right?

captain_sHiFTy
01-14-04, 01:35 AM
does anybody have any info on what was added in the third expansion? and whether its worth buying?

Papier
01-14-04, 10:25 AM
Bloodmoon you mean? I heard they added an island to it along with the ability to turn into werewolves, new monsters and... snow! Man I gotten tired of seeing the ashlands over and over again.

NicePants42
01-14-04, 12:34 PM
I just picked up bloodmoon last week. Have not played it yet, but I've heard that the snow and forests look great. Plus, the price is down to $15.

captain_sHiFTy
01-14-04, 01:23 PM
sweet, i think im gunna have to go pick that up.

Papier
01-14-04, 10:48 PM
Also a good deal is Morrowind, Tribunal, and Bloodmoon together for all 30 bucks. If I have the spare cash I might just pick the pack up. :)

captain_sHiFTy
01-15-04, 01:04 AM
HEAR THAT PEOPLE, 30 BUCKS FOR ALL 3.

now you cant use money as an excuse for not playing morrowind, nor ignorance on how to start your character off thanks to this guide:D

Papier
01-15-04, 02:04 AM
well, um... another excuse for not buying the game is they're too busy looking at panty shots in Lineage II. :p

captain_sHiFTy
01-15-04, 02:07 AM
shush....

i'm not paying for the game cuz im too busy trying to decide to buy with my giant wad of cash :D

new case and psu, new cpu and psu, or new hard drive and morrowind?

so hard...so tempting...

captain_sHiFTy
01-15-04, 02:08 AM
sweet! three starts.

Go shifty, its your three-star day. We gunna party like its your three-star day, sip...stuff cuz its your three star day

Melhisedek
01-15-04, 04:05 AM
Originally posted by captain_sHiFTy
shush....

i'm not paying for the game cuz im too busy trying to decide to buy with my giant wad of cash :D

new case and psu, new cpu and psu, or new hard drive and morrowind?

so hard...so tempting...

CPU+PSU mate!
Can't beat that one. Next is Morrowind and HD! And forget about the case =)

captain_sHiFTy
01-15-04, 01:26 PM
but my case is so uuuuuuuuuuuuuugly. And im a very vain person :D
i'm thinking about getting case and psu. Then i ll still have like 50-100 bucks left. If that way i can go for the new cpu really soon.

Thing is my 40 gig hard drive really isnt enough....


but this is getting off topic. Morrowind peoples! lmao. Anybody found any good mods lately?

fibonaccov
01-15-04, 07:25 PM
very neat - Is it posted at morrowindsummit?

Papier
01-15-04, 11:40 PM
Actually I'm looking for an upgrade too. No shame in admitting it. It's actually on-topic if you twist it a bit. "Yes I'm looking for an upgrade so Morrowind would run better." :D

As for me, I would've gotten a Geforce fx 5900SE if it wasn't for the fact that life can suck alot. Not only that, but my ram went bad too. It's reporting 100k errors for each pass. :( Thankfully the cpu I upgraded to (From 1800+ to 2500. I've noticed in certain games like America's Army, my FPS increase was massive.) went flawless. Now if only the rest was this easy. :(

Btw, how about we compile the 10 best mods for morrowind? I'll throw out some mods for ideas.

1. Astarsis Face Mods. These replaces the ugly faces of the orginal with way better ones. Actually he has a homepage somewhere you can google on.

2. Bethasoft Arrows plug-in Stuff like area explosion arrows and new throwing stuff, plus a cool shop in Vivec, this mod is great for the archer!

3Real Sign Posts This replaces the ugly sign posts that are outside of towns with hi-res versions that you can actually read.

That's all I can think of for now. I'll add some more later.

new_novice
01-16-04, 12:28 AM
UM how do you use the house mod, I dowloaded it and put it where it supposed to be, started the game, went into data but no house mod to check... or is it somewhere in the game that I have to go to?

Papier
01-16-04, 02:29 AM
Edit:

Doh, just reread your post. Sorry.

Anyways, I remember you have to have a file within a certain folder. If I remember right, you must have the esp file in your data folder I believe.

Melhisedek
01-16-04, 02:31 AM
I think we should compile list of mods everyone likes! Name of them and what they do...
captain_sHiFTy you if could edit them in one of your first posts that would be great =)

turbodeuce
01-16-04, 06:34 PM
heh, never played morrowind before, but after reading this thread i just bought the game of the year edition :D. It should be here in a couple days.

Vio1
01-16-04, 08:29 PM
Hello, I have a question about the Addams House mod ... in the room at the back where you can put your weapons on display, what and how do you put stuff on the polls with hooks? (There are two tables and 4 polls with hooks)

Also, is there anyway of having unlimited carrying capacity in the game? I downloaded a trainer with it, but with the newest patch installed on the game it just kicks me out of the game.

Vio1
01-16-04, 09:24 PM
Ok, figured out how to put stuff on the hooks, but how do you put a spear across both hooks so that it rests not only on one (cause that looks silly)?

captain_sHiFTy
01-17-04, 01:31 AM
try jumping, then hitting inventory while ur in the air. Then you can usually drag and drop out of your inventory to get it where you want it. Thats how i stocked all my shelves.

My favourite mods are the "a good place to stay" house mod, the new faces mod, and this castle mod i found somewhere...cant remember what it was. added this huge fort outside of vivec (like we rea talking massive, and really cool looking.

i'm really glad you all are enjoying this thread so much :) . Makes me feel special for contributing something to the forums.

if anybody wants to add information about the mods or any other info they might like to add, i ll try to compile it all into the first post. also, if someone could compile a list of where to download all those mods afterwards/as they submit that'd be really great. hard to do all that while im studying for government finals :D

Band-aid
01-19-04, 12:53 AM
i went out a bought the goty yesterday. wow! why didn't i ever buy this game before? my wife already calls it "the game that should not be" and I'm going to get in hot water with my HW2 mod team because i haven't done a thing since i installed this game. it's just so huge. i got totally into it and almost jumped out of my chair when it thunder crashed all of the sudden.

i made the mistake of joining every guild in balmora that i could get into. the idea was to figure out what i would like best but it backfired on me when the fighting guild sent me after something a thief guild member had. either way i played it i got kicked out of a guild.
right now every time i take a nap an assassin comes after me (damn good thing it saves when i rest). i also stole a buch of expensive stuff that i can't sell because nobody has the money to buy it and carrying it around is a bother. i really wanted to get through the game before i modded it but it looks like i'm going to atleast need a house.

one big complaint though is how hard it is to hit anything. i mean this badguy is right in front of me, i have the cross hairs right on it and i cant touch it with a weapon. i thought it was because my character is weak but it has not gotten any better at lvl5. i have no idea how to aim this thing and thats what is getting me killed more than anything else.
i swing i jab and never hit the other guy while he chops me up...
got a mod for that?
anyway, great game!
oh, and my friends and familly hate Bethesda Softworks.

Melhisedek
01-19-04, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Band-aid
i went out a bought the goty yesterday. wow! why didn't i ever buy this game before? my wife already calls it "the game that should not be" and I'm going to get in hot water with my HW2 mod team because i haven't done a thing since i installed this game. it's just so huge. i got totally into it and almost jumped out of my chair when it thunder crashed all of the sudden.

i made the mistake of joining every guild in balmora that i could get into. the idea was to figure out what i would like best but it backfired on me when the fighting guild sent me after something a thief guild member had. either way i played it i got kicked out of a guild.
right now every time i take a nap an assassin comes after me (damn good thing it saves when i rest). i also stole a buch of expensive stuff that i can't sell because nobody has the money to buy it and carrying it around is a bother. i really wanted to get through the game before i modded it but it looks like i'm going to atleast need a house.

one big complaint though is how hard it is to hit anything. i mean this badguy is right in front of me, i have the cross hairs right on it and i cant touch it with a weapon. i thought it was because my character is weak but it has not gotten any better at lvl5. i have no idea how to aim this thing and thats what is getting me killed more than anything else.
i swing i jab and never hit the other guy while he chops me up...
got a mod for that?
anyway, great game!
oh, and my friends and familly hate Bethesda Softworks.

Deja vu all the way! =)
Except for joining guilds. My adventure took a dive at rats :/ How we hatessss them little ratses!!! ( Gollum voice )

I never figured out how to kill things either :/ Thing is I have the game lying on my desk calling to me but I play SWG right now and it takes plenty of my free time as it is. So this one will have to wait. But thread will live on =)
Cheers mates!

elBogg
01-21-04, 07:43 AM
heya, i've got a question about the "agoodplacetostay" house. i dl'd it and unzipped the files and stuff, but all there is in it are the meshes and the textures. there's no data file included, and no readme, either, so can anyone tell me where the house is?

Vio1
01-21-04, 08:43 AM
you begin to hit with your weapon much more often when you increase skill on a certain type of weapon, not really all that much on what level your character is at. I use axe and long sword, my axe is at the max 100 and long sword is at 89 and it hits everytime.... stick with one weapon and you will eventually see some improvement, though slowly.

As to the "agoodplacetostay" you need to unzip it with winrar (for some reason other zip programs dont unzip the data files)

elBogg
01-21-04, 10:07 AM
crap, i don't have that. er, there wouldn't happen to be anyone out there that feels like unzipping it and e-mailing it to me, is there? my e-mail's feivel76@yahoo.com if anyone feels like helping a brother out, hehe . . .

Melhisedek
01-21-04, 12:54 PM
You can get it free at www.rarsoft.com

elBogg
01-21-04, 07:42 PM
doh . . . thought you had to pay for it . . . thanks!

Goronae
01-27-04, 08:14 PM
I just had a question on peoples experiences with enchanting items. What items allow you to put the most "stuff" on them because my exquisite amulet cant hold all that much constant affectage. What are your best enchanting items?

captain_sHiFTy
01-30-04, 01:02 AM
s-s-s-s-s-TICKY.....dude i got a sticky! sawwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet....go me :)

As for your question goronae, the best items for enchantment are exquisite anything, daedric weapons, and the ebony staff. The ebony staff holds by far the best enchantment value of all, best used for wizards. For warriors, i beleive it's still the daedric dai-katana, with around 25 enchant value (correct me if i'm wrong). i ve been trying to find a good site where they had a list of all the base weapons, with their relative enchant values, but i havent been able to find them anywhere. For a weapon, 20 is about good. And constant affects take up TONS of enchant value. You're better off just looking for constant effects in the game, or making one in the editor (although most consider that cheating :D )

I used two short swords with enchant 20 (they were actually long swords i downloaded in a pack because they had really nice textures, and they were too short for longswords so i made them short swords, and didnt change the enchant value. its a BIT high for short swords, but oh well).

25 for a sword will get you near 100-100 extra damage of a certain type of element. Just grab a couple of different ones in case one runs out in the middle of a nasty dungeon, or for a quick switch if something's immune to one of them (like those damned nords and their cold resistance).

Can someone help find a good site with specs on all the base equiptment? i looked for a good 30 minutes and couldnt find anything.

captain_sHiFTy
01-30-04, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Band-aid

i made the mistake of joining every guild in balmora that i could get into. the idea was to figure out what i would like best but it backfired on me when the fighting guild sent me after something a thief guild member had. either way i played it i got kicked out of a guild.
your problem here is that you re not taking care to avoid breaking the guild's rules. Sometimes, when you re required to kill a member of another guild, there are ways to avoid it. Most of the guildmissions that involve killing someone (with the exception of the morag tong of course) can be completed in a perfectly legally acceptable way (it's just not always the easiest). For example, while doing the house Hlaalu missions, you will sometimes be required to do some rather shady business (like extracting huge taxes from peasants, and killing them if they cant cough up the dough). These can be avoided by talking to Claudius Cuuro (i didnt spell that right, but hes the dude that always hits on you...:( ). He will tell you that you shouldn't do that, and will eventually get the guy arrested, and you a nice big promotion :) . Sometimes you will have to pay off those nasty fines yourself, but its often worth the price to avoid the long nasty hike to wherever the person you have to collect off is (worst comes to worst, just sell off another one of those useless items collecting dust in your house).


right now every time i take a nap an assassin comes after me (damn good thing it saves when i rest). i also stole a buch of expensive stuff that i can't sell because nobody has the money to buy it and carrying it around is a bother. i really wanted to get through the game before i modded it but it looks like i'm going to atleast need a house.

running tribunal are ya? they will continue to harrass you for a while until you ask a guard about it. That will open up the quest path to finding your way to Mournhold, and starting the Tribunal mainquest. Just wait until you get halfway through the morrowind mainquest, same thing happens but with ash zombies. i cudnt sleep for a week because of it.
as for your second statement, in order to sell some of your more expensive items, you need to find either the skamp or the mudcrab. I beleive theres a guide for it somewhere else in this thread. If not, i ll just breifly outline it for you. Sell off a bunch of small items to the merchant until he/she's out of money. Then go to sleep for 24 hours until they regain that money. Then buy all those items off them, and sell them a more expensive one. Just keep repeating until the merchant has racked up enough cash to buy off your expensive item.


one big complaint though is how hard it is to hit anything. i mean this badguy is right in front of me, i have the cross hairs right on it and i cant touch it with a weapon. i thought it was because my character is weak but it has not gotten any better at lvl5. i have no idea how to aim this thing and thats what is getting me killed more than anything else.
i swing i jab and never hit the other guy while he chops me up...
got a mod for that?
anyway, great game!
oh, and my friends and familly hate Bethesda Softworks.
not being able to hit things is a result of low skill in the weapon class you're using. Try training the skill in the weapon you're using, or switching to a weapon of a class you're better at using. A good way of training is to find a weapon with really low damage, and some nonimportant person somewhere with really high health. Just keep hitting them for a while with your sword until you think they need healing, then use some quick healing spells on them before going at them again. Then make a quick run for your local thieves guild to pay off the bounty.

Stolid
01-31-04, 05:29 PM
Also remember: your endurance affects hit ratio. If you jump and run everywhere you CAN'T hit. The endurance bar is the green one, BTW. keep it full while in combat.

captain_sHiFTy
01-31-04, 05:41 PM
....i never knew that! haha. i always jump everywhere, and that bar is almost always empty. pays to rest before going into a harsh combat zone to replenish that then.

Goronae
01-31-04, 07:36 PM
I think we should post picture of our characters and their stats I want to see how my character ranks against eveyone elses

Band-aid
01-31-04, 10:48 PM
thanks capn'!
i'm starting to make a little progress. atleast i can fight better now. really wishing i had put more into marksman when i started as i have found a couple of arrows into the bad guys as they run towards me really softens them up if it doesn't kill them out right. i noticed a couple of times an arrow stopped an incomming spell but best of all darts take out rats before they even get to me!
making pretty good money by just picking up everything that can be picked up and selling it. spending it all on training though.

Goronae
02-01-04, 10:06 PM
Well I thought I'd start on my suggestion by posting my character. He's an Orc Adventurer, head of mages, fighter, thiefs guilds, imperial legion, and imperial cult.

http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/1203/CharacterView2.jpg

http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/1203/CharacterStats2.jpg

kestrel
02-05-04, 03:01 PM
Looks like someone found the console. :)

Seriously... you got to lvl 58 and only bought 3 spells? And how did you finish the thief guild if you drank the bittercup? Morrowind is almost too easy even if you don't cheat.

Melhisedek
02-09-04, 03:25 AM
hi mates!
Well I would like to as a favor :)
Thing is that I'm ready to start playing this game again... But this time I don't want to stop because of some stupid choice I made and so on like I did 2 last times. So I would like you to help me create character :)
I'm in love with Paladins but Morrowind don't have them prebuilt and I suck at making chars so I need you guys =)
He would have to be Human. Great fighter but still good at magic as well. I donšt know if this is possible but I would like to create something near this.
Also what weapons and armors to put points in and how much ? And what sign to chose...
That would be it. I hope some of you gosus will have time to put together a noble char for me!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!

Stolid
02-09-04, 08:11 AM
Well; Paladin could be done as follows:
Imperial
Focus: Combat
Attributes: Endurance, Willpower
Major:
Long Blade
Restoration
Heavy Armor
Block
Shortblade

Minor:
Speechcraft
Enchant
Mysticism
Axe
Armorer

This gives you a skill in every attribute, keeps acrobat and athletics misc (which can be very helpful to keep level bonuses good)

I'd recommend using a longblade/shield combo and occasionally switch over to Axe for damage. Heavy Armor is expensive/hard to find at first but suits the archetype.
I might recommend swapping a favored stat out for Luck too; as you can never get a good multiplier.

Sign: I *HIGHLY* recommend either Atronauch or Lady. Atronauch is abuseable and incredibly powerful; Lady is free stat enhancement if you don't want to cheese the game. In your case; I'd pick Lady. I normally take the Atro when I'm playing Breton/Magy characters, you won't be using magic enough to justify it as your skill I think.

Edit: logic burp on the keeping athletics/acrobatics misc - labeled it minor

Melhisedek
02-09-04, 09:11 AM
Well this will be my first time to play the game for real I hope :)
"First" first time performance just killed everything.
Second time I got to Balmore and got this quest to kill rats. I got so pwned time after time that I thought I created poor char and quit again.
Now this would be 3rd time. And I really hope this time around I'll enjoy this game.

Could you please care to elaborate on
"acrobat and athletics minor (which can be very helpful to keep level bonuses good)"

I din't really understand that :(

Thank you for your time!

the_reproducer
02-09-04, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by kestrel
Looks like someone found the console. :)

Seriously... you got to lvl 58 and only bought 3 spells? And how did you finish the thief guild if you drank the bittercup? Morrowind is almost too easy even if you don't cheat.
For the latter question, if you do enough of the Fighter's Guild quest, you'll eventually get to the ones from Percius, he'll want you to kill Eyrie if you've not done the Bittercup quest, hence afterwards the Masterchief of Thieves will acknowledge the death accordingly.
Anyho, I've managed to break the addiction of late, I've completed near enough all the quests of Morrowind, Tribunal and Bloodmoon. There are few places I've not been or done or acquired.

Some decent mods I've played so far are Giants (adds loads of new creatures), Children of the Night 1 and 2 (pretty good storyline but buggy) and The illuminated Order (very professional feel to it and well structured, about 20 quests).

Stolid
02-09-04, 01:28 PM
Morrowind has a skill oriented system.
Here's a sample of how it works:
Let's say I want to be stronger
I look at my skills and notice "Long Blade" is strength based
So I use my Long Blade and get Long Blade skill ups.
Now; when I level up I get a large strength bonus because I've been using strength skills.
Now; Major/Minor skills have 2 parts. An initial bonus and the level count. When you select a skill to be 'major' you start off with that skill being higher, as a 'minor' it is high, and everything else is just base level.
So if I have "Long Blade" be major it might start at say 30, if its minor 25 and if its neither maybe 15 (I just made these #s up)

Leveling is based on major/minors though; so you need to be very careful with this. Once you accumulate 10 skill ups in ANY combination of major and minor skills you level up.
So lets say you accidentally make all of your skills strength based. Now when you concentrate on strength you'll level fast but nothing but strength will really benifit from the level more than likely.

Check this for a really good explanation:
http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/morrowind_attribute.txt -- can't link direct:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/3365.html
labeled "Attribute Advancement FAQ"

Athletics and Acrobatics are really easy to raise in the game so you don't want them on your major/minor list. Why? Because you gain skills fast you get to 10x on that major/minor list fast and level up that much faster. This means your multilpliers for that level will likely be low; which is generally speaking a bad thing (the game bases difficulty on your level for many encounters and so if you're level 10 from running/jumping you can't swing a sword well and the game thinks you should be at this point).

Melhisedek
02-10-04, 04:26 AM
Thanks a lot mate! Much clearer now !!! =)

the_reproducer
02-18-04, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Melhisedek
Thanks a lot mate! Much clearer now !!! =)
You could've read the manual. ;)

Krowa 02
02-22-04, 08:25 PM
Well after reading the first part of the thread I installed morrowind and now im getting ready to read this whole thread and prepare myself to paly again.

Asteras
03-02-04, 02:00 AM
no really , what's so special about this game, i have tried it, and am not sorry to say this, it is really stupid and boring. i don't know what it's so good about it but 1 thing is for sure. it sells:p

Krowa 02
03-02-04, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Asteras
no really , what's so special about this game, i have tried it, and am not sorry to say this, it is really stupid and boring. i don't know what it's so good about it but 1 thing is for sure. it sells:p

Why are you trolling this thread and saying that? Why dont you read the thread and understand what alot of problems people have had with the game, and why alot of people dump it so fast.

Im getting sick of all the trolls on this forum.

captain_sHiFTy
03-02-04, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Asteras
no really , what's so special about this game, i have tried it, and am not sorry to say this, it is really stupid and boring. i don't know what it's so good about it but 1 thing is for sure. it sells:p

and sorry to say this, but ur an ignorant idiot. how can you KNOW a game sucks and is boring if you've never played it? ur like that gamespot reviewer who reviewed the game after only playing for 2 hours.

And what made you decide to post here anyways? what positive contribution did you expect to make by that? or did you just expect to express your opinion that nobody other than you cares about?

in rebuttle to your statement, is morrowind boring? at times, but what game isnt boring at times. is it stupid? no not at all, in fact its one of the most intelligently created games i ve played.

what makes people think its boring? often that its far to open and complex for most people who are used to linear story lines and structured gameplay. morrowind is in no way linear, and in no way structured. the only limitations upon you are the quests you wish to complete, and the physical limitations of your character ( even the limitation of gravity can be overcome after a while :P).

some people, like our friend here, either dont have the patience, or the intellect for this game. i beleive he leans more towards the latter.

if you dont like morrowind, thats fine. you dont have to like it. only a few of my friends like it. the rest find it far too intimidating or slow to start to catch their attention. but many people, like myself and many of the others in this thread, enjoy this game thoroughly.
so have your opinion, but dont try to apply it to me. just because you think this game sucks duznt mean i do, or even that anybody other than yourself does.

Band-aid
03-04-04, 03:58 AM
I'm still playing this damn game!:D
whats worse is that now i have gotten to the point that i can stop for awhile and do other things, like the crimson skies mod for HW2, the rest of my mod team has been infected by this curse.
and so now i can't get anything out of them! hahaha!

top ten signs you've been playing too much morrowind.
10. s'wit and n'wah are now perfectly valid insults.
9. you've wrapped your ball cap in plastic and now refer to it
as your "enchanted helm".
8. jumping everywhere you go and can't understand why you're tired and not able to jump any higher the next day.
7. confused why "it would break the prophesy and plunge the world into eternal darkness" is not a valid excuse to miss work.
6. actually asked the kid that works the sporting goods department where they keep the "daedric" arrows.
5. caught someone taking something off your desk and began chasing them around the office screaming "now you die you swit!" over and over.
4. you tried to convince your wife that you couldn't do the laundry because you haven't leveled up enough to get past the greater bone walker in the basement.
3. giving cops the items you stole and a little cash does NOT get you off the hook.
2. think its unfortunate that "what kajit do for you?" is not a good pick up line.


and the number one sign you've been playing too much morrowind.....
1. you have updated your resume' to include your character stats.


:D :rolleyes: :o ;) :p

captain_sHiFTy
03-04-04, 07:05 PM
no, you know you play too much morrowind when you do something cool or hard during the day, and you reach for the quick save button.

and yes i've ACTUALLY done that. i felt SO sad lol. thats when i stopped playing for the first time.

seriously, how cool would that be if you could just quickload life?

Asteras
03-05-04, 02:09 PM
well am sorry captain shifty but i never knew you would take it soo personal. i just said a comment. which is in a way true. well am really sorry man but i had no clue that you were sooo lets say connected with this game. many ppl told me that the games that i play sucked, but i didn,t go on shouting about it. it's just a normal comment.that's all. no need for this attitude. ok am sorry. but don,t make a scene out of it ok
? were all cool. and for god sake lets not be that angry for just a game.am sorry . wow if i knew you were (in love with the game) i would not even post on this thread. i just thought that we were free to expres are selves. but on a sertent point offcource. anyway

Krowa 02
03-05-04, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Asteras
well am sorry captain shifty but i never knew you would take it soo personal. i just said a comment. which is in a way true. well am really sorry man but i had no clue that you were sooo lets say connected with this game. many ppl told me that the games that i play sucked, but i didn,t go on shouting about it. it's just a normal comment.that's all. no need for this attitude. ok am sorry. but don,t make a scene out of it ok
? were all cool. and for god sake lets not be that angry for just a game.am sorry . wow if i knew you were (in love with the game) i would not even post on this thread. i just thought that we were free to expres are selves. but on a sertent point offcource. anyway

Dude you dont go into a thread and say this sucks why do people play this game. It would be just like me going to a dbz forum and say dbz is a retarded show (your avatar used to be of dbz nature)

We have rules on this forum, try going into the intel forum and making a thread titled "AMD is better, people who used intel are dumb"

Asteras
03-06-04, 02:34 AM
dood i understand, but i never said anything to any person. i never said that ppl who play it are stupid etc...

captain_sHiFTy
03-06-04, 01:52 PM
i didnt take you insulting a good game personal, i took you being a jackass in my thread personal. why bother posting anything at all if all ur gunna say is some anti BS. if you dont have anything positive to say about anything dont bother wasting our time.

Asteras
03-06-04, 02:51 PM
yaa yaa sure. anything you say. am sorry you took this the wrong way. but i addmint that it was a jackass. fine know??????

Krowa 02
03-07-04, 12:24 PM
Awsome! I guess my pc or this game dosent like audigy 2, cause every once in a while I get a nice error where the sound freezes and chops up, and it corrupts my save files :).

captain_sHiFTy
03-07-04, 10:36 PM
probably just needs a patch.

i need a bigger hard drive so i can play this game:).

too much space taken up by my movies and games. like neverwinter nights...such an awsome game:)

speaking of which, anybody happen to have an extra nwn or expansion cd key? i cant find mine anywhere, and i had to use a fake one to play with my friend last night

Asteras
03-08-04, 12:52 AM
hi again. look guys. i don't like to be rude. and i don't like to have enemies. so i'm sorry . the game doesn't suck. it was just my personal opinion. and it was stupid. so do you wanna forget all this and be friends?

Krowa 02
03-08-04, 07:24 PM
Hey anybody in house Hlaalu? I have my stronghold now, completed! But my question is, the mine I had to cure of blight, why dosent it have those miners I recruted? I wanna make some cash of that stronghold, but I have no clue where the gold goes either :-/.

captain_sHiFTy
03-09-04, 08:56 PM
ooh, i used to know that.

after a while the amount of money you make off those things is hardly worth the effort though. by far, the best strategy is looting daedric tombs. a full set of daedric armour will go for so much more than you can make off that mine in years.

Krowa 02
03-19-04, 10:04 PM
Ive been side tracked from the game lately since I got ut2k4. I may just make a new character, and do all the side quests and check out the ruins and such. Im so mad I never joined the imperial cult :(, im afraid that im lvl 22 now and its gonna get to easy at first.

timzak
04-10-04, 04:42 PM
I can't seem to find any mods that make wildlife more docile. Does anyone have a link or filename I can search for? There are TONS of mods and all the search words I tried at the various sites (wildlife, docile, monsters, creatures, etc) came up empty.

Thanks.

captain_sHiFTy
04-11-04, 06:02 PM
try http://morrowindfiles.com

some of the links are down, but there should still be a docile wildlife one still up, as well as a load of other cool mods to go along with it.

timzak
04-11-04, 06:13 PM
morrowindfiles.com takes forever to load on my broadband connection...I'm hesitant to visit that site when it appears to be downloading hundreds of megabytes and I still don't see a site page. Is this page down?

I tried many other sites and searched for keywords such as docile and wildlife...can't find a mod. A direct link (or the correct search keyword) would be most helpful.

captain_sHiFTy
04-12-04, 04:11 PM
you know what, it looks like it is.

if you go to the official morrowind website, they ll have links to all the fan sites, most of which have mod downloads or links.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/index.php?url=/links/links_reviews.htm&bg=06

Edge386
04-16-04, 08:00 AM
Doesnt Chameleon just make you harder to hit? Someone on the first page of this thread said people still see him, I thought that was the point but it just made you harder to hit, anywho...when i first started I found the wonderful ring of aversion for something like under 200 gp and I just ran around stealing 60000 gp items for a good 4 hours...love that ring, just stand behind someone, make sure nobody is facing you by turning them around, go invisible and take anything you want as long as its sitting out, then you can also open doors to rooms and let people walk out then close the door behind em and take anything you want some more :) The game is really easy, just large with alot of travelling. Also, they leave it up to you to decide what you can take on, so you could go into a quest thats a little too hard to start.

RadiationMan
04-19-04, 01:00 AM
I think chameleon makes you kind of transparent, not really invisible. The spell or enchanted item tells how transparent you will become when you use the spell, 20% transparent, 40% transparent, etc. The percentages add up too. If you use the spell and/or item a few times in a row where the percentage totals 100%(20% spell + 40% enchanted item + 40% enchanted item), you then become basically invisible. Combat or opening doors does not cancel the spell like it does with the invisible spell. The higher the percentage of cameleon, the harder it will be for others to see you. If you have a good sneak skill, though, you might be able to get by unseen with a lower % while sneaking.

captain_sHiFTy
04-20-04, 08:42 PM
ya i beleive thats exactly it

its sanctuary that makes you harder to hit. if you have 100% sanctuary, which isnt THAT hard to obtain with the right birthsign and a few items, then you re completely immune to hits!.

Banyan
04-29-04, 07:20 AM
is morrowindfiles.com down? have been having trouble all day trying to get on their site after deciding to try this game again :(

Alacritan
05-05-04, 05:55 PM
Damn. I uninstalled Morrowind a year ago, and this thread just makes me want to reinstall it even though I know I won't finish it this time either. Argh....and I gotta go download the good mods again too....

Spleen43
05-19-04, 06:39 PM
I bought the Morrowind Game of the Year Edition at BB which includes Bloodmoon and Tribunal. Thx for this great thread!

captain_sHiFTy
05-19-04, 10:20 PM
no problem at all, glad to be of help.

the guide probably needs updating, as it doesnt even include bloodmoon, but id have to reinstall the game and...well get bloodmoon.

i think im just gunna play thief3 when it comes out, and write a guide/review for that instead. dear god that game looks soo good <druels>, not to mention EQ2 which looks like morrowind online.

id love to reinstall morrowind and play it again though...i think maybe after i get a new harddrive this summer, and some free time i ll fire it up again.

KxrWireless
06-01-04, 09:00 PM
I really like that Hlaalu stronghold, by far the best of the three (Redoran, too far, covered in ash :(; Telvanni, nice but far from anything good). Anyway, some mods I use right now as far as I can remember.

Some talking sword mod called Lilacor, 2 handed sword that gets better as you kill more monsters and it says stupid things, I thought it was funny.

A Vivec mod that adds boathouses and residences to Vivec, really makes Vivec look more alive than it used to but it turns Vivec into a performance hog.

Adventurers/Super Adventurers is also a good mod, includes most of the other mods (capes, faces, armors/weapons, etc) to the game, along with some other tweaks. Adds travelling merchants and bandits. Tries to make the game more difficult. Only thing I don't like is how Creeper and the crab merchant (SE of Vivec) no longer carry a lot of money :(.

There's also a Bank of Balmora mod (part of Citymods I think?) I tried out, pretty nice to put your money in and watch the interest collect. Also lets you buy houses although I wouldn't recommend since the house I bought in Balmora was half buried in a hill :(. Better off just using the Hlaalu stronghold.

captain_sHiFTy
06-05-04, 02:39 AM
"a good place to stay" is still by far my favourite house mod. its perfect size, and you jsut cant **** with manakins.

i need to reinstall this game, but i need to wait to get my new harddrive first

TheGreySpectre
06-24-04, 02:36 PM
sometimes when picking locks if there are to many guards around just take off your stolen goods and pick the lock who cares if you have to pay the 5 gp fine its 5 gp

taunt is your friend

If you start a new game go straight to suran. on of the pawn shops has a busted glass dagger that he will sell for REALLY i think its 2 gp but i am not sure buy it than join a fighters guild and get the armorers hammers and repair it. than eaither use it or sell it for an easy 5k

Don't get a whole bunch of items with constant effect chameleon I got it up so that my chamealon was at 96% all the time and the game got really boring because the game does not deal with invisiblity well. people would only seem me 1 in ten times and if they saw me i could just tap the sneak button while in the midst of battle and they would wander away because they could not see me

For the boots of blinding speed you don't need constant effect resist magic. just get a spell that gives you 100% for like 5 seconds cast it and put the boots on during that time and you will not be blinded at all, your screen will not even darken (a result of partial blindness)

Look online for the daedric quests ( I am not going to post them here it would take to long) and do them for lots of money and good stuff

for constant effect items someone in tel branora has the summon golden saint spell just make an amulet out of it and get another item that casts soul trap and your set, esp. if you have azura's star (best souldgem refillible)

Best set of constant effect items i ever made was a set of clothes that gave me a totol of +200 to acrobatics when combined with the boots of blinding speed they allowed me to traves the whole continent by foot\air in about 30 sec

If you run forward when fighting dagoth ur esp if you have levitate on the bridge you can make dagoth ur fall into the fire without having to fight him

edit: I am temtped to reinstall even though last time i played it i finished all the expansions and became grandmaster\in charge of every single nonexclusive guild and was lvl 85

Chaos_Being
07-23-04, 07:38 PM
Nice guide/thread :) I just started playing Morrowind again (its a great game, but I've never been able to get anywhere near finishing it.) I've started to grab a few mods; some of the ones I found mentioned here and otehrs that were recommended at the elderscrolls forums. Thanks again :)

blackpaladin
10-07-04, 12:51 AM
i got to start playing my character again. i have a level 32 nord "uber warrior" (custom class). im on the stupid telvani bride mission though, and i dont want to do it. its just so boring and time consuming to do this mission :/

KxrWireless
10-07-04, 03:01 AM
I've heard some mention of the next Elder Scrolls games on the way. Anyone have any more info on this?

edit: nevermind, found the forum link here (http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showforum=4)

blackpaladin
10-07-04, 12:04 PM
yeah, it was in the last game informer. omg, it looks so amazing. the grahpics in there look absolutely stunning... i just cant wait...

NicePants42
10-08-04, 02:56 PM
Yup. I too am looking forward to it. Anyone noticed that Bethesda will be making fallout 3? Now THAT I want to see.

captain_sHiFTy
10-19-04, 10:08 PM
ya. too bad they JUST started it. so it wont be out for 2-3 years. its gunna be awsome.

blackpaladin
10-26-04, 03:03 PM
i think theyve actually been working on it since 2002... so it might be out sooner than we all think :)

shard
11-04-04, 01:50 AM
gotta a question, what is the best config for playing this game at a decent framrate? my rig in my sig runs great in the wilderness, but when i go into to towns, expecialy balmora, it chugs like me drinking milk. lol

if any, tell what would be the best upgrade, i am not going to switch out this system for new mobo and such just wondering what i could do to get some more fps's out of the current setup

BTW i run it at 1280x1024, with the draw distance at about halfway on the slider, and i have realtime shadows at full. besides the constant chug in towns, well outside, it is an awsome game

and the only thing that i might think could be boring, is that it doesnt seem very story driven, i mean yeah you have the nerevarine stuff, but it just seems kinda weak in the power of if, but besides that, Morrowind is kinda like my new Diablo 2! lol

also, that key that you get from the guy you have to give the Dwemer puzzle box to, where is the place you use the key? is it in that chamber that is past that locked door of about 40? any help would rock!

blackpaladin
11-05-04, 05:58 PM
oen thing you can do is turn realtime shadows down... its not really needed and that takes up alot of the power. i dont think that you need to run it in 1280-1024 either. i run mine in 1024x768 and it runs just fine, AND looks awesome. maybe try turning the draw distance just a tad down as well.. see if that works :)

captain_sHiFTy
11-19-04, 12:24 AM
gotta a question, what is the best config for playing this game at a decent framrate? my rig in my sig runs great in the wilderness, but when i go into to towns, expecialy balmora, it chugs like me drinking milk. lol

if any, tell what would be the best upgrade, i am not going to switch out this system for new mobo and such just wondering what i could do to get some more fps's out of the current setup

BTW i run it at 1280x1024, with the draw distance at about halfway on the slider, and i have realtime shadows at full. besides the constant chug in towns, well outside, it is an awsome game

and the only thing that i might think could be boring, is that it doesnt seem very story driven, i mean yeah you have the nerevarine stuff, but it just seems kinda weak in the power of if, but besides that, Morrowind is kinda like my new Diablo 2! lol

also, that key that you get from the guy you have to give the Dwemer puzzle box to, where is the place you use the key? is it in that chamber that is past that locked door of about 40? any help would rock!

My comp ran this like a god when it came out.
1800+ pallamino, 256 mb ram (upgraded to 512), ti4200+ 128 mb.

if you re a cheapa$$, id just go buy a mobile barton and a 9800pro. prob wouldnt cost more than 500 bucks and its a decent system. then again, you might as well just save up and get a decent athlon 64 system for a comprable price.

OC Noob
01-17-05, 12:35 PM
Man, I had to get this for the PC (have the Xbox version) so I could take advantage of the mods, only problem is I am having a hard time finding good discriptions of the mods in a central place where I can figure out which is best for what I want.

Maybe you guys can help me create a list?

Things that I'd like to improve:

1) NPC variaty
2) housing
3) Improved landscape/towns/texture mods
4) anything to make the towns feel more "alive"
5) Additional quests/items


Pretty much anything to add improved NPCs/towns/items/quests/monsters so the world feels more alive and less sterile if you know what I mean.


Thanks for the help.


ps I'll be sifting through these 4 pages for recomended mods when I get home.


EDIT: I have the version with both expansions.


EDIT 2:

I just downloaded the top 20 mods from one of the sites and the game is so full of life. Not like the sterile world without the mods. Very nice.

Also, the gfx are fantastic. They are better then 95% of todays games and it was made what, 4 years ago?

Qarl666
08-24-05, 08:46 AM
Check the link in my sig for some cool mods! :D

littleblondkid
12-22-08, 05:23 AM
:) im not trying to sound rude but alot of the stuff said on this is wrong. for a start being a dark elf (dunmer), although they are good all rounders are definetly not best for theiving i would actually reccomend khajiit for theiving as they have extensive skill boosts to help theives although you cannot where boots and helms.

If you need information on morrowind( or other elder scrolls games) i would strongly reccomend going to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
this is a imfomative and easy to use website with almost everything you need to know about the game:)

nightelph
12-22-08, 05:50 AM
Holy thread revival batman! littleblondkid; don't you think the above conversation is old enough? How did you come across it, google search? The game came bundled with my Geforce 4 Ti 4600!

shadin
12-22-08, 08:25 AM
Wow, didn't expect to see a Morrowind thread here this morning. But while it's here and since it's one of my favorite games of all time, I'll throw in that the Wiki linked to is a great resource for Morrowind and Oblivion.