What is OC'd cpu equivalent to?

[Neeseius]

AMD AthlonXP 2500+ (Barton) @ 11x200 (2.2 GHz)

My bios and every other peice of software tells me its a XP3200+ but I find that very hard to believe.

[HaTE]

yes its running as a 3200+

[Neeseius]

awesome! proabably not as fast though, cuz ive looked at cpu benchmarks and mine dont match the 3200+ but still cool though!

[The Coolest]

You have probably ran sisoft sandra which doesn't really show how performance grows with increased cache size. If you check out some benchmarks of a 3200+ BARTON you will see ur speed is the same.

[Neeseius]

ill try that

[JaY_III]

Whats not to belive...
Go out an BUY a Barton 3200+ and it runs stock at 2.2GHz (11x200)

As for whyb you are losing in the benchmarks could be a lot of things...
Like your memory...
Running Dual Channel?
Have CAS 2 RAM?

Tweaked your BIOS yet?
and the list goes on.

[Neeseius]

i have the capabiliity of running dual channel but i decided just to get 1 stick of 512 instead of two 256, so when i get another 512 then vuwala

[JaY_III]

Originally posted by Neeseius
i have the capabiliity of running dual channel but i decided just to get 1 stick of 512 instead of two 256, so when i get another 512 then vuwala

:D did that same thing myslef, as DUAL is only about 5% faster... plus PC4000 is really $$$

[vidgion]

theres nothing different about 3200+ and 2500+ but price and multiplier

if you go buy a 3200+ you're paying for a higher multiplier, that's all

but we all know the barton core hits a wall @ 2.4 with moderate cooling

[Silent Buddha]

Originally posted by vidgion
theres nothing different about 3200+ and 2500+ but price and multiplier

if you go buy a 3200+ you're paying for a higher multiplier, that's all

No...the multiplier on the 3200+ is 11, the same as on the 2500+. What you're paying for is the ability to run 200x11 @ 1.65V stable as a rock guaranteed.

[neveriwas]

I have my 2500+ running at 2.47ghz using 1.725v on an NF7-Sv2 board with bios 21 (modded) I think that, that is like a 3400+ equivelent or better.

Budda,
I have the opportunity to get a nearly free 3200+Barton (I pay only $20 out of pocket if I sell a friend my Barton 2800+) would that OC better than my current OD'd 2500+ Barton since it natively runs 11X200 at 1.65v? Or does it need to go up to 1.725 right after I start to OC it even slightly?

I have gotten my Barton 2500+ to run at 2475 at 1.725v. It can go faster at higher voltages, but with another issue I am dealing with regarding a seemingly 219fsb cap on my NF7-Sv2 board, (no video after 219 fsb) I can't find out. Thats a side issue anyways.

In any case, I have some Corsair PC4000 memory on the way, and I was wondering if doing a switcharoo on the CPU's meanwhile to get a 3200+ would be worth it once I resolve this FSB issue?

P.S. I have yet to look around the board yet as this question didn't come up until I was reading this thread. I'll look around too, but any insight would help.

[vidgion]

No...the multiplier on the 3200+ is 11, the same as on the 2500+. What you're paying for is the ability to run 200x11 @ 1.65V stable as a rock guaranteed.


this is true but i was using the 3200+ 333as reference which has the higher multiplier


any logical overclocker will buy a chip with 333 instead of 400fsb

[Neeseius]

im running 110% stable at 1.65vcore, @(11x200). So basically I got a 3200+ for the price of a 2500+ (100 bucks) And runs just as stable and as fast! goody goody

[Neeseius]

im running 110% stable at 1.65vcore, @(11x200). So basically I got a 3200+ for the price of a 2500+ (100 bucks) And runs just as stable and as fast! goody goody

and oh yeah mine caps at 219 fsb too, 3dmark will just exit to desktop at 220 fsb. If you have pc3500(430Mhz)just like me then that might be our problem. But i would think the ram could be overclocked more than 10MHz right?

[Fleck]

I made a list of the PR rating you're lookin at depending on the OC you get... it's not all too great but you get the basic idea:

Barton overclocked PR rating list

1826 MHz = ~2500+
1909 MHz = ~2600+
1992 MHz = ~2700+
2075 MHz = ~2800+

-switch in speed method-

2158 MHz = ~3000+
2241 MHz = ~3200+
2324 MHz = ~3400+
2490 MHz = ~3600+
2656 MHz = ~3800+

[Neeseius]

so damn! why dont AMD just OC these 3200+, up the voltage to 1.7 or 1.75, slap on a better heat sink, and make it like a 430 or 500 fsb or something. AMD think think think

[JaY_III]

Originally posted by Neeseius
so damn! why dont AMD just OC these 3200+, up the voltage to 1.7 or 1.75, slap on a better heat sink, and make it like a 430 or 500 fsb or something. AMD think think think

because then we would have nothing to do!!!!

i really wish AMD chipsets were stable enough to hit a 500FSB... that would really be something

[jonspd]

Originally posted by jAY

i really wish AMD chipsets were stable enough to hit a 500FSB... that would really be something


Agreed I wish they had a nf7-s type overclocking board that gave you a stock board able to run 250fsb out the box now that would be nice.

280+ fsb on a amd
:rolleyes:

[Silent Buddha]

Originally posted by jAY
i really wish AMD chipsets were stable enough to hit a 500FSB... that would really be something

You can, people have hit 250 FSB (500 FSB dual pumped for PR rating) with the DFI LanParty II Ultra B. It's pretty expensive. Still, it is UV reactive so it looks nice :).

@ neveriwas: I don't think switching to the 3200+ would solve your issue of capping out at 219 FSB. That's your mobo's problem (northbridge might be heating up a little too much). Your 2500+ already seems like a great overclocker so I wouldn't sell.

[JaY_III]

ok, let me restate that...
i wish MOST AMD chipsets are stable enough to hit 500FSB (250x2)...

and i do know its possible as my barton is running on a @ 245FSB right now :D

[Fronic]

Even though they are all nForce 2 yet they overclock differently... I don't get that...

[Cyrix_2k]

3750+ (when I need the speed)
3200+ (normal)