Will new P-III 700 climb to top of Mt. One Gig???

[batboy]

II mentioned in a couple of my posts that I ordered a new P-III 700 CPU pretested to 1+ gig. Yes, I respect some of you guys who don't believe in buying pretested chips. But, I was one day away from buying a retail P-III 750 when it was posted here on the forum that the 750 socket 370 chips were having trouble reaching 133 fsb.

I'm a man on a mission and I have to beat my buddy's 900 T-bird that can clock at 1035 max. I already have a C-566 that will run 978, so I decided to buy a pretested P-III for a 1+ gig sure thing.

So I paid about $15 more for a pretested OEM chip from Steve AKA Compuwiz1. I've had a couple people email about where I ordered from, so see the below listed URL for details. Looks like he is sold out of the pretested P-III's but has some more to test. Looks like he also raised his prices up to $175 for the P-III 700 @ 1000 chips.

I just got an email from him today with a shipping confirmation number. We'll see very soon how well it does. Steve comes very highly recommended and so far has been a pleasure dealing with him. He's been very nice and has answered all my emails very promptly.

I'll keep you all posted on whether I get burnt or if I'm all smiles. I should get it in time for this next weekend's round of tweaking. Join me on my journey up that steep Mt. One Gig. I'll post my success or failure soon.


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[batboy]

In preparation for my new P-III 700, I ordered a new Alpha PAL6035 cooler. Now I can pick and choose from this new cooler, a GlobalWin FOP38, or even a Golden Orb. I also ordered the new Ultra Arctic Silver thermal paste, we'll see if it's any better than their regular version.

Well, since the CPU is pretested to do 1+ gig, anyone willing to make a guess as to what this P-III 700 will overclock to (rock stable) in my box? On my SE6 board, I have three options above 1 gig with this CPU/mobo combo.

7X145=1015 MHz
7X150=1050 MHz
7X153=1071 MHz

What do you think I can do with air cooling? Personally, I'm going for the max I can do with my setup... 1.07 gig! That puts my PCI bus at 38.5 MHz... hope my PC133 RAM is up to the task, if not, I'll be buying new Muskin memory I guess.

[batboy]

I received notices that both my packages, the CPU and cooling goodies, are waiting at the post office for me. I'll pick them up tomorrow and then have the whole weekend ahead of me to tweak and overclock to my heart's content. I'll tell you what. After hearing several of these great forum members brag about their Celeron success stories recently, I'd better be able to get this P-III 700 stable and happy at 1050 MHz and hopefully pull down some wonderful gaming benchmarks too. Stay tuned for my quest of the elusive one gig.

[a5]

Hey batboy,
I too am waiting on my p3 700s Cc0 stepping! Thanks for the replys on the subject. I actually ordered mine from a place called PUI (power up inc.).
They are guaranteed to do 933. They are currently testing them right now, so when and if they are clockable I will pay for them. I'll be watching to see what speed you get to. So have fun.

[batboy]

Good luck to you too, sir! I'd forgot about Power Up, I've ordered from them before about a year ago and was pleased.

[Yomama]

Use the alpha pal, by far the best cooler - don't even bother witht the orb, it's not better than the stock fan/hs.

Air cooling will be sufficient, water or a pelt will likely get you close to 150 though, if your board allows 1.95 V.

My bet is that you will reach 143 to 145x7 at 1.85 to 1.9V.

You should check the memory throughput. On some 815 boards (e.g. CUSL2) they drop off over 140MHz. There is a little tool out there from h.oda that allows to tweak it back. Saw links for it at www.cusl2.com.

Good luck

Yo

[mark]

good luck guys, hope you have the same as what i had, Retail slot 1 p3 700 cBO at 1085mhz 100% stable at 1.75v and -6* to -7*c (idle temps) , I was able to get upto 1120mhz at 1.85v but was not 100% stable. here check out my system
http://www.mjstebbins.com/case.htm
mark

[batboy]

Well, picked up my new P-III 700 and Alpha cooler at the post office this morning. UNFORTUNATELY, I'm still at work for a couple more hours. Dang, this Friday afternoon is dragging.

My chip was packed quite well and arrived without damage. Sure hope it's a good overclocker. So far, Steve from Compuwiz has been good to his word.

[batboy]

Well, it's been an interesting evening. I can get my brand new P-III 700 running 100% rock stable at 933 (1.75v), 960 (1.80v), and 980 (1.85v). However, it's only 75% stable at 1015 (1.90V) and maybe 50% stable at 1050 (1.95v). I got it to boot and run long enough once at 1.07 gig to get Sandra CPU benchmarks. I kind of hate going over 1.9 volts, plus my mobo only goes up to 1.95v max anyway.

At 145 MHz bus speed and beyond, the CPU and motherboard starts running pretty warm. I think that's part of my instability problem. I really have to struggle with the retaining clip on my new Alpha PAL, so the Arctic Silver keeps getting all squeezed out. Anyone have helpful hints for easy installation of this blasted thing, let me know, please. I finally got mad at wasting so much thermal paste that I slapped my GlobalWin FOP38 back on.

At 1015 MHz, I'm getting CPU load temp in the low 40's and mobo load temps in the mid 30's. When I was running 112 fsb with the Celeron, my mobo load temps were only mid 20's. I found a nice heatsink for the southbridge of my motherboard, I'll put it on as soon as I get some Arctic Silver adhesive. I have another little heat sink that I'm going to cut in half and put on the ICS clock generator. Any other ideas or suggestions?

I really want to run 1.05 gig stable. Right now, I'm burning in the CPU by running it at 933 MHz (133 MHz bus speed) @ 1.9v and see if that will help get me over the hump. I'm going to play around with several different cooling ideas too, maybe even add a couple more case fans. Tomorrow, I'll be back at it again, tweaking away at this and that. I will have my way with this chip...

[Newbie_Doo]

Hey Batboy,

The celly wiring trick works on the P3s too, but I think you need a more effective cooling solution over 1.95V. Even though I know that the Alpha and FOP38 are excellent coolers (for air), they still can't keep up with the chip at 2.0 or 2.05V. Some will disagree, and say that an Alpha can manage a t-bird or Duron quite well, and this is true, but the Coppermines are MUCH more sensitive to temperature than the AMD chips are. Have you thought about taking the chip for a dip in the pool? Watercooling may be the answer to your stability woes.

[batboy]

YIPPEE!

I'm currently cruising rock steady at 1.05 gig! Oh yeah, I'm smiling! Hey Newbie, you can bet I've at least thought about and checked up on watercooling and/or peltiers. Maybe dual procs with pelts and water blocks, ahhhhh! But, I'm daydreaming. Here is reality...

I spent a great deal of last night and this morning tweaking. At first this P-III didn't want to run stable at anything above 1 gig. So, I messed around with cooling, added two heatsinks to my motherboard (on the southbridge chip and ICS clock generator). Got a better seat with Arctic Silver thermal paste and then finally got temps down a couple more degrees on both the motherboard and CPU.

Next, I ran Sandra burn in wizard all night at 133 bus speed, clocking 933 @ 1.9 volts. This morning while checking the whole system out, I found harddrive errors and Windows registry errors, so I ran through the whole suite of Norton Utilities 2001 which seemed to help. But, the best improvement seen was when I updated my Abit SE6 board's INF file installer and INF drivers. This even got rid of that "unknown other device" that I never could figure out. Now I'm totally rock stable at 1050 MHz (max load temps: CPU=40 and mobo= 33 degrees).

I've benchmarked several times with WinTune, Sandra, and 3Dmark2000. I've played Unreal for over an hour. No crashes for hours, I'm smiling now. My current motherboard will only go to 153 bus speed and 1.95v, so I briefly tried it at that speed (1.07 gig @ 1.95v) and got it to run the Unreal demo loop and al round of benchmarks. I quickly wimped out and went back to 1.05 gig @ 1.9v and hope I can back down the voltage after a couple weeks. Thanks to Steve at Compuwiz1 for the great deal. I went to bed disappointed last night, but I'm a happy camper now. :)