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daveym
03-01-01, 03:58 PM
I have an old HP Vectra w/a PPro 200 in it....Can I overclock this puppy? The only jumpers I know about set the cpu to 150,160,180 or 200 (or something like that). Will it run higher? Will it get flakey?


thanks

Phil
03-01-01, 04:02 PM
I know of people who have ran them at 233 but they get extremely hot but the chips seem to habdle the heat very well

jason
03-02-01, 03:48 AM
Phil (Mar 01, 2001 04:02 p.m.):
I know of people who have ran them at 233 but they get extremely hot but the chips seem to habdle the heat very well

you seem to be in a bit of luck, I don't know about OC'ing but I found (cheaply) PII OVERDRIVE's...for the PPro running at 300 and 333....what's so great about that your asking...they have 512k cache...BUT unlike the PII most of us had/have, thier cache ran like the CELERONS!!!think about it!!! the advantage of the CELERON's cache running at full core speed but with 4x the cache...it'll definately get a performance rush...even at the relatively slow speeds of 300/333...I've been trying to get help in designing a PPRO slocket....(Imaging now that SAME 300 PII overdrive running at 100 mhz on a BX chipset....or even at 83 mhz....at 100 you'd be looking at an Overclocked chip running at 450mhz with 512 mhz cache ruinning full speed...would put a PIII to shame...IF you could get it to run higher lets say 133 you'd get a 598.5 (600 Celeron that would RIP through programs...)like I said I'm looking for people to help me in this endevour...it would take more time than $$ since I'm sure the socket 8 ( ppro) could be gotten cheaply and a bundle of slockets could be gotten relatively cheaply too...(after all there would have to be several prototypes...)I'm in the process of patenting the idea...if it worked...old ppro's and ESPECIALLY the PII overdrives would be snatched up like free money...after all the initial 300a celeron pretty much matched a PII 450 due to the cache running full speed instead of 1/2....quadruple that same cache and your talking a monster numbers cruncher...initially I've projected a 300 PII overdrive oc'd to 450 mhz would be the equilvilant of a P3 600-800 (and that's on the conservative side) after all the new PIII run at full core speed BUT they've cut the cache in half...I'm really excited about it I just need to put together the capital and a develpment team (ALTOUGH) I'm considering doing it OpenSource...since I have Leukemia I can't get "paid" but as a stockholder in a incorporated company...it could end up where I could say screw disability...I could afford 10k a year health insurance...give most to cancer research and still live very comfortable for the rest of my life:-)....email me if yout interested in the idea...I want to find as many PPRO users as possible for thier input...

daveym
03-02-01, 12:12 PM
Umm...I think I am outta my league a bit here.

Phil
03-02-01, 02:50 PM
I doubt the performance gains are as much as you are guessing, if you look at the coppermine compared with the standard katmia the performance is only about 10-20% extra(note: even though it only has 256kb compared with 512kb it is 2X as efficient), and as for overclocking you would be lucky to get them over 400 with out some extreme cooling.

e laursen
03-02-01, 03:24 PM
OK Dave, first, most all chips can be overclocked, the bigger question is "can my computer be overclocked?" To answer that question, you first need understand how overclocking is done. I ask that you do more research if I give the quick answer, deal?

Overclocking is running a processor faster than it is spec'ed at by the manufacturer. This is accomplished by changing either the FSB or the multiplier or both(MultiplierxFSB=cpu speed, again read up). Changing the miltiplier or FSB is a function of the motherboard, not the cpu (except that new intel cpus are multiplier locked, but not yours). You have already determined that you can change the multiplier/fsb to select 150(2.5x60), 166(2x66), 180(3x60), 2002.5x66), which is, as it turns out, is all the overclocking available on your computer (I have the same one on on my desk at work).

Realistically, there is no economical way to get this computer faster. I would get a new one for more speed.

Treker
03-02-01, 11:35 PM
daveym (Mar 01, 2001 03:58 p.m.):
I have an old HP Vectra w/a PPro 200 in it....Can I overclock this puppy? The only jumpers I know about set the cpu to 150,160,180 or 200 (or something like that). Will it run higher? Will it get flakey?


thanks


Hey, I have an old PB computer, it had a p233mmx chip on its PB790 board (remarked intel AN430TX), I went to http://www.powerleap.com and got their mmxpro adatper, slaped in a AMD K6-2 500mzh chip, clipiing along at a much better 400mhz (cant get 500 because of 66fsb limit with jumpers, but would kill for a softfsb plug in for his board *hint *hint)

I highly recomend powerleap.com
its worth checking out.

Commited
03-03-01, 05:04 AM
daveym (Mar 01, 2001 03:58 p.m.):
I have an old HP Vectra w/a PPro 200 in it....Can I overclock this puppy? The only jumpers I know about set the cpu to 150,160,180 or 200 (or something like that). Will it run higher? Will it get flakey?


thanks

Well, I have a 166MMX which on one sunday morning, with a giant heatsink(but no fan), it flew up to 233Mhz, no problem.
Unfortunately for me it doesn't do much anymore as half the programs are buggered, so i'm building a new Duron 700 system.
Buy a K6-II 500 and clock it to 550.
Or buy a new 32mb geforce graphics card.
Every little help
Alternitavely, buy a new socket A motherboard, get a duron 700, and if your ram is simms, get 128 Dimm ram.
It is a great alternative!