folding?

[wern32]

Do SETI at least that might have a good outcome.

[nut581]

i'm not quite sure what you were trying to say .. were you asking question? or questioning folding?

[wern32]

just questioning folding thats all. I think seti is great. I dont understand the process of folding. I understand science very well and i dont see what folding really is accomplshing

[DipStickTony]

Did you even read anything on the folding site ??? It explains it pretty clearly there

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/

Folding has the chance to cure diseases, and to save lives....how is that not useful? Mad cow disease in particular is caused by the misfoldation (how ya like that word :)) of a specific protein...and FOLDING is what we do to proteins to see possible outcomes and such.

So go and brush up on your science and you will see why we fold

[wern32]

I know science. Folding sound like a waste of my pc's time. We only have so many DNA molecules and a supercomputer will run through or configs with in secs. Am i the only one that gets this???

[wern32]

Ignorance is not a weapon!!!

[wizard james]

too bad i cant spell.. i guess that comes from not being able to read too lol. well if u took a few mins and read everything in the faqs at the folding site u might know y a supercomputer would not work. but i know what u mean: a super computer with lots of cpus. well for truth a supercompuer is thoght as one computer.

so if people just download it, theres more cpus.

o well . i guess some just dont got the right dna to make the right ideas. lol


and as u said theres only so many DNA molecules, well theres alot more then i think u think

[DipStickTony]

Originally posted by wern32
I know science. Folding sound like a waste of my pc's time. We only have so many DNA molecules and a supercomputer will run through or configs with in secs. Am i the only one that gets this???

This sounds a whole lot like solely your opinion, and for some reason you hate folding. Every argument you have made against folding could be used exactly the same way against seti.

A Supercomputer can run through and do seti calculations just as easily as it can fold, so this isn't even a valid argument.

Obviously you don't know science (at least in this field) you may know alot about one aspect but personally I think you know jack about this particular one. :eek:

Since curing diseases is so simple; why are there still thousands of them still lingering around ?

Ignorance is not a weapon!!!
At least this is a good point...the only problem is that your using it :rolleyes:

[Fast420A]

Originally posted by wern32
Do SETI at least that might have a good outcome.

That's why they have scanned the whole freaking sky over and over and found NOTHING.

Here's some actual info from Stanford about what folding has done already. You have to understand that folding is being used to UNDERSTAND what these proteins do so they can figure out what they can do to fix them when they mis-fold.

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/results.html

Good luck with your Seti, we;ll all be over here folding. Thanks.

[axlecrusher]

You do know that SETI has yet to yield any results. Where as folding at home has yielded some very promising results. The simulations done by FAH have been confirmed by lab tests. They have discovered things about proteins that were previously unknown. Please go and read the papers (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/papers.html) and results (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/results.html). FAH works, but does SETI? We don't know, yet.

Axle

EDIT: Aw I was beat to it.

[Fast420A]

Originally posted by axlecrusher

Axle

EDIT: Aw I was beat to it.


BEAT YOU BY ONE MINUTE! :D

[sautegod]

I suggest we end this thread before it gets out of hand. all I have to say about this I can accomplish the same thing SETI has by standing out in my back yard stairing up at the sky.

Keep the trash talk in the SETI forum.

[mateo]

Please, first take off the ignorance blinders on both sides. I'm sure that there's more to SETI than staring at the sky from your backyard, just as folding is more than your oh-so-limited number of DNA. Bashing brings the potential of lockage, and this should be answered clearly first.

Folding isn't about DNA, its about protein. There are numerous proteins, first of all, so there's some measure of the multitude like there is with DNA. The trick, though, is simulating and discovering the formation of that protein, which is prone to error and randomness and contains a myriad of possibilities within each protein. So, from your thinking, now look at it as DNA squared ;). But, in addition to that, its simulating the actual formation of the protein with each step, so its more than just decoding a static, existing DNA sequence. It's a lot more than you think :).

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not completely absolutely 100% sure on that, but its certainly a general idea of how much more is involved.