Look who's watercooled

[mumrah]

Finally.

I got everything up and running this afternoon.
Via Aqua 1300 w/ silencer mod (worked!)
Maze 3-1 waterblock
Swiftech 240mm X 120mm radiator
Figi 1000mL water bottle
3/8" and 1/2" tubing
2 Vantec Stealth 120mm fans


All is well.
Temps are down to 46*C under load, and 44*C.. mind you that this is down from ~60*C idle and ~67*C under load.

Runs quite as hindu cow. Now, any suggestions for getting the temp down? the flow is Pump-WB-Res-Rad-Pump.. This is about the most efficient setup that i can get. the only other option would be pump-WB-rad-res-pump. i've got ASIII on there, but it's not totally smooth cause i didnt have a razor on hand when i applied it.

Any suggestions are welcome. I'll post pics if i ever get my hands on a digital camera :).

-David

[Biznatch]

Are you using the TEC in your system? The maze 3-1 has a TEC, if not, it's just maze 3.

[mumrah]

hmm
well then appears i have a maze 3... odd. i could swear i got the 3-1.. whateva

[GoingH2o]

Allright :)

http://www.dangerden.com/images/maze3/maze3a_thumb.gif

http://www.dangerden.com/images/maze3/maze31c_thumb.gif

That is the difference between the maze3 and maze3-1
As you can see the maze3-1 has to be used with a TEC.

Why didnt you purchase the maze4? What is the size of tubing you're using, from your post your said 3/8 & 1/2, I suggest you go for 1/2 tubing in all the setup. I woul re-seat the waterblock using AS5 and let it settle for some days, see if you record any changes.

[mumrah]

i got the maze 3 because, well i'm not sure. i guess i missed that. oops. oh well. i'm getting another soon cause this is a dually set up. changing to 1/2" tubing would be kinda tough since my via aqua is 3/8" and my radiator barbs are 3/8" also.

[FIRESTARR357]

why would you order a maze 3-1 without a tec? your not using a maze 3-1 without a tec i hope? that would explain high temps if you are using a 3-1 without the tec, the copper would be to thick to do any real good.

[Korndog]

nice dude, glad you fixed your problem, thank goodness it didn't crack, lol.
hm.. what usually works for me to lower temps is remounting my waterblock.
after i remounted mine 3 times, temps dropped 7c from first installation.
what are ur case temp and ambient temp

[gungeek]

I would try changing the flow to pump-WB-rad-res-pump and see if that helps much. That would provide the warmest water to the radiator helping it dissipate heat more efficiently.

[Korndog]

any solution with the less amount of tubing would be best. when the heat is dissipated is insignificiant to what some extra waterflow/pressure can provide.

[mumrah]

tubing is at a minimum as of now. and i did not get a maze 3-1, just a maze 3. i'll try remounting tomorrow, and reapply the ASIII with a razor edge. would a shim help?

[Korndog]

shim is just security for you cpu, won't help heat transfer, might make it worse if not installed right, lol.
thought about try AS5 or ceramique?

[mumrah]

i may eventually, but there's no availible locally, and shipping makes it like 15 bucks for a tube.. oh and ambient temps are 30* C

[Korndog]

whoa.. for 30c ambient, those temps are pretty good, lol
thats 14c over ambient
my cpu runs 14-18(over ambient) @ load

[mumrah]

oh, well sweet. heh. well, apperently my enermax fan controller doesnt deliver the full 12v the 120mm fans need. so i plugged them strait into the rail and they started going a little faster. then i noticed my rad was very dusty. cleaned it. now cpu temp is 43*C, ambiant 30*C..

[oRIDDLERo]

46*C under load is kinda hot for my tatse is that froom a temp probe or some off beat bios reading?

[mumrah]

Originally posted by oRIDDLERo
46*C under load is kinda hot for my tatse is that froom a temp probe or some off beat bios reading?
that's from PC Alert III, so bios reading

[Korndog]

dude, he has 30c ambiant, its close to impossible to get better temps w/o upgrading the block and pump...
+14c sound about right to me for watercooling and overclocked machine.

[necromanx13x]

+14 seems like a lot to me for a watercooling setup. I only get +6 over ambient at full load.

[mumrah]

so should i be expecting any better temps with this pump and block? average diff between ambient and cpu is ~15* C

[MameXP]

Originally posted by necromanx13x
+14 seems like a lot to me for a watercooling setup. I only get +6 over ambient at full load.

duh? you got Eheim pump and BIX. He has Via so... beside you got WW too.
It sounds just abit high but that maybe the air flow problem, or the rad just doesnt do a goo job. 30c ambient is high. Where do you live?

[Korndog]

Originally posted by necromanx13x
+14 seems like a lot to me for a watercooling setup. I only get +6 over ambient at full load.

you have a dtek WW and Ehiem 1250
he has a Maze 3 and via aqua

upgrading from a maze 3 to a whitewater alone would decrease your temps by atleast 5c. the extra head on the ehiem pump would be even better for the WW, probably 2-3c more of an improvement.
i can't find the numbers, but theres at least a big .10 c/watt difference between maze3 and WW...

[mumrah]

florida. that was an ambiant temp w/o any case fans. i added 3 on the 5v rail and it's down to ~28*C. however my cpu temps are about the same. my rad fans are impeded a bit by some wire clutter, i'm gonna try and straiten some of that out.

[NiTrO bOiE]

How much did the mod quiet the pump? I was about to do it yesterday but found out we didn't have any super glue.

EDIT: Hmm, do you think I would be able to take a lighter and melt them together or would it weakin it?

[LtBlue14]

Why didnt you purchase the maze4?
maze3 > maze4

[MameXP]

Originally posted by LtBlue14

maze3 > maze4

yup Maze4 is a joke lol.

[mumrah]

Originally posted by NiTrO bOiE
How much did the mod quiet the pump? I was about to do it yesterday but found out we didn't have any super glue.

EDIT: Hmm, do you think I would be able to take a lighter and melt them together or would it weakin it?

i wouldnt melt it. get some gorilla glue, it's relativly light and super tough. cause if you melt it and mess up the impeller, you're screwed.

Overnight it ran 30*C ambiant, 44*C cpu.

(w00t 3rd star!!)

[mumrah]

according to a pair of some temperature probes, the air temp in my room is 75*F and the ambiant case temp is 81*F. so w/o getting into some noise i dont think my case temp will be gonig down much anytime soon. damn hot winters.