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I've been shopping for a new reservoir for my water cooling rig since my Senfu res developed lovely cracks and leaks from a warped lid. So, doing a Google led me to the single 5-1/4 bay res manufactured by Angel Eye. I ordered one from case-mods.com. A couple of days later I happened across a new res product line from Primochill called the Typhoon, one version of which is a dual bay 5-1/4 res, which in my opinion is perfect for my application. So, I emailed case-mods.com to cancel the single bay order, following their proceedure of course. Here's the reply I received:
Firstly, in case someone from Case-Mods.com is reading this post, I wish to extend my gratitude for the time taken for the lengthy email and for the refund to my Paypal account, which took place very very quickly!
There are a few things in this email that I should like to point out:
1. I agree with the first paragraph for the most part. The description for the Typhoon dual bay res is really silly and does indeed have such claims. (discussed later in this post)
2. The second paragraph suggests that it will not be possible to get all the air out of the res, which I disagree with entirely. They think that I won't be able to tip it or something. Secondly, they claim that there will be too much turbulance of the water and will impact pump performance! I find that humorous, and pointed out in a reply to them that their single bay res has been shown to be more apt to allow air back into the pump inlet in reviews. One could equate their bay res as being a large ID tube bent into a U shape, so with a high water flow there will be air sucked back into the pump before it has a chance to settle to the top. The review I saw suggested that to combat this problem one should fill the res all the way up to the fill cap.
3. The third paragraph is just inaccurate completely. The Typhoon comes shipped with caps that you can use to close off any of the ports. There are 8 ports on the back, 4 on the top section, 4 on the bottom. It comes with 6 caps. This means you can choose to have parallel setup or series setup for multiple WB's. It also means you have more options for selection of barb fitting location in your rig. I find that design to be far superior, assuming that the caps don't leak. I don't think they will because they have o-rings that go with them. Should be highly reliable.
Here's the description for the Typhoon dual bay res taken from the voyeurmods.com website:
All of this goes to prove one point: Reservoir manufacturers really don't know what we want in a reservoir, and probably don't read the forums for information and education. This market still has a tremendous amount of growth ahead, at least technologically. Most res products offered today are either modifid plastic bottles (*snore*) , round, bulky canisters, use small ID fittings, or are acrylic assemblies that have been known to crack and leak. We need BETTER products on the market.
Links:
Primochill Typhoon can be found at: primochill typhoon
Voyeurmods description of the Typhoon bay res: Typhoon dual bay
Angel eye single bay res: angel eye res
I've been shopping for a new reservoir for my water cooling rig since my Senfu res developed lovely cracks and leaks from a warped lid. So, doing a Google led me to the single 5-1/4 bay res manufactured by Angel Eye. I ordered one from case-mods.com. A couple of days later I happened across a new res product line from Primochill called the Typhoon, one version of which is a dual bay 5-1/4 res, which in my opinion is perfect for my application. So, I emailed case-mods.com to cancel the single bay order, following their proceedure of course. Here's the reply I received:
Thanks for emailing. We are aware of the product you mentioned. There are a few things you should be aware of when deciding to purchase the Typhoon reservoir. Firstly, the typhoon reservoir does not aid in the cooling of the water cooling system as they make you believe. The claim that cooler water will arrive to the next block is false. The fact is that on average water temperature rises less than 1 degree when passing through a block. Moreover, even if the water was to rise more than 1 degree per block, in the end all the warm water will return back to the reservoir and the overall water cooling system temperature will be the same. Also, after some time ( less than a few hours), the overall water temperature of any water cooling system stabilizes and there will be negligible difference in the temperature.
Secondly, the Typhoon reservoir features a horizontal bar which causes water to fall off the edge below, causing turbulence inside the reservoir. This does not rid the system of air; it actually adds air to the system as the turbulent water at the bottom of the reservoir continues out to the blocks. The added turbulence will slow down the flow of water in the reservoir and cause a decline in performance. With the position of the inlet barbs in the Typhoon reservoir, you will need to ensure the water level never reaches below the top of the inlet barbs; if this happens the water will shoot through the air in the reservoir. The Angel Eye reservoir on the other hand has a vertical bar, which has proven to calm the water as it passes through the reservoir; this is why the design has been duplicated by 3 other companies since Angel Eye tech released the original bay-res.
Thirdly, with 3 inlets and 3 outlets, you will need two times the amount of tubing, barbs, hose clamps, and of course free drive bays. The added connections also increase the chances of leaks occurring in the system. Moreover, if you have a radiator with only 1 inlet and 1 outlet, you will need to use a series of Y barbs to have the radiator in your system; this setup will slow down the flow of water in the system, which will lessen performance. You will need to use a series of Y barbs into and out of your pump as well.
Nevertheless, we always believe the customer has the right to purchase what he wishes. We have removed the bay-res from your order and the amount will be refunded back to your paypal account. If you decide to change your mind and purchase the Angel Eye bay-res, please do let us know and we will gladly add it to your order.
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Firstly, in case someone from Case-Mods.com is reading this post, I wish to extend my gratitude for the time taken for the lengthy email and for the refund to my Paypal account, which took place very very quickly!
There are a few things in this email that I should like to point out:
1. I agree with the first paragraph for the most part. The description for the Typhoon dual bay res is really silly and does indeed have such claims. (discussed later in this post)
2. The second paragraph suggests that it will not be possible to get all the air out of the res, which I disagree with entirely. They think that I won't be able to tip it or something. Secondly, they claim that there will be too much turbulance of the water and will impact pump performance! I find that humorous, and pointed out in a reply to them that their single bay res has been shown to be more apt to allow air back into the pump inlet in reviews. One could equate their bay res as being a large ID tube bent into a U shape, so with a high water flow there will be air sucked back into the pump before it has a chance to settle to the top. The review I saw suggested that to combat this problem one should fill the res all the way up to the fill cap.
3. The third paragraph is just inaccurate completely. The Typhoon comes shipped with caps that you can use to close off any of the ports. There are 8 ports on the back, 4 on the top section, 4 on the bottom. It comes with 6 caps. This means you can choose to have parallel setup or series setup for multiple WB's. It also means you have more options for selection of barb fitting location in your rig. I find that design to be far superior, assuming that the caps don't leak. I don't think they will because they have o-rings that go with them. Should be highly reliable.
Here's the description for the Typhoon dual bay res taken from the voyeurmods.com website:
"Ready for the Next Gen in water cooling reservoirs? With the Typhoon design, you will be able to return your warm water to the reservoir, instead of the "Next Block" in your system. Perfect for any "Multi-Block" cooling system. This Dual Bay can be mounted in 2 empty 5 1/4 bays."
All of this goes to prove one point: Reservoir manufacturers really don't know what we want in a reservoir, and probably don't read the forums for information and education. This market still has a tremendous amount of growth ahead, at least technologically. Most res products offered today are either modifid plastic bottles (*snore*) , round, bulky canisters, use small ID fittings, or are acrylic assemblies that have been known to crack and leak. We need BETTER products on the market.
Links:
Primochill Typhoon can be found at: primochill typhoon
Voyeurmods description of the Typhoon bay res: Typhoon dual bay
Angel eye single bay res: angel eye res