No powerup on P III850

[Howard]

I just purchased a used 850 from a gentleman I believe to be very reputable. When I received it today I immeditaly installed it. It didn't power up at all, just the fans were turning. I reseated it a million times with the same result. I did try it on another Abit BE6 II board with the same result. I've talked to the seller and he reassured me that the CPU was working fine, and I do trust him. He did suggest one thing however. When I went to power up the 850 I didn't set my bios back to default, it was still at 145FSB from my 700. I did stick my 700 back in and went back and changed the bios after I realized that possibly could have been the problem. I still was unable to power up. By the way the 850 had an alpha P3125 attached properly w/delta fans. So the question is, is it possible to fry a chip without it even powering up? Is it possible at 145FSB that a "jolt" clould have caused this CPU to fail. I wouldn't think it could.........you guys tell me. I do have the latest bios.

PIII700E@1015, Abit BE6 II, 256 Mushkin Rev2, Leadtek DDR,

[Shadow ÒÓ]

to be honest there's a couple chances you fried it. BUT....in my experience it's kinda hard to do.

Any chance you walked across a carpet and touched ANYTHING? (esp metal grounded objects while holding the processor) This is HIGHLY unlikely as most every component is very difficult fry.

Ask the gentleman you trust to reinstall his chip in a board it works in.....then see it "power up". More than likely you got screwed. Sorry to say that.

It's not hard to static blow a component......but then again.....conditions have to be right.

[Howard]

Shadow ÒÓ (Mar 22, 2001 02:25 a.m.):
to be honest there's a couple chances you fried it. BUT....in my experience it's kinda hard to do.

Any chance you walked across a carpet and touched ANYTHING? (esp metal grounded objects while holding the processor) This is HIGHLY unlikely as most every component is very difficult fry.

Ask the gentleman you trust to reinstall his chip in a board it works in.....then see it "power up". More than likely you got screwed. Sorry to say that.

It's not hard to static blow a component......but then again.....conditions have to be right.

Thanks for the response Shadow....no, I'm pretty careful when it comes to static. I know the CPU left the seller working fine, just looking for a logical explanantion I guess.

[Camelot]

Hey just a quick question howard. What voltage do you run your 700e at? I remember you saying something about 1.9 but I can't remember. I spoke to a wholesale friend of mine who owns a computer store and he said he has fried cpu's doing exactly what you did but he said especially if the voltage was way high. He also said that since it is a retail cpu, you can call intel and get a case number and have it replaced.

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Sounds like either your CPU or Mobo has broken. Having 145mhz fsb on a 8.5x multiplier is bit too high and dangerous but still not likely to kill your CPU. When you put back your 700E on that mobo and still no power-up.... sounds like your Mobo could be messed up too?.. Did you set to default voltage for the 850 cpu also?.. and no go?

[Howard]

MilkPowder (Mar 22, 2001 01:01 p.m.):
Sounds like either your CPU or Mobo has broken. Having 145mhz fsb on a 8.5x multiplier is bit too high and dangerous but still not likely to kill your CPU. When you put back your 700E on that mobo and still no power-up.... sounds like your Mobo could be messed up too?.. Did you set to default voltage for the 850 cpu also?.. and no go?


When I put the 700 back in a did set everything to default. In regards to camelots comment about the voltage, yes it was set to 1.9 the frist time I tried to power up.

[Howard]

Camelot (Mar 22, 2001 12:04 p.m.):
Hey just a quick question howard. What voltage do you run your 700e at? I remember you saying something about 1.9 but I can't remember. I spoke to a wholesale friend of mine who owns a computer store and he said he has fried cpu's doing exactly what you did but he said especially if the voltage was way high. He also said that since it is a retail cpu, you can call intel and get a case number and have it replaced.

The removal of the retail heat/fan voids all warranties

[Howard]

Your absolutely right Shadow, I'm screwed

[bdf24]

One thing though. From my experience, A motherboard knows when you throw a different cpu in and resets back to the default setting. At least this is so for me on my old BH6 and my BE6-II. Any time I switched CPU's it would switch back to the default setting for the board. Witch on my Abit BE6-II is 533mhz, that being a 66mhz fsb! Then I always had to go in and change it in the bios.

[Howard]

bdf24 (Mar 23, 2001 11:12 p.m.):
One thing though. From my experience, A motherboard knows when you throw a different cpu in and resets back to the default setting. At least this is so for me on my old BH6 and my BE6-II. Any time I switched CPU's it would switch back to the default setting for the board. Witch on my Abit BE6-II is 533mhz, that being a 66mhz fsb! Then I always had to go in and change it in the bios.



To be honest I'm not sure, anyone else have any input on if when you put a new cpu into and Abit BE6 II if it goes back to a default setting?

[Howard]

bdf24 (Mar 23, 2001 11:12 p.m.):
One thing though. From my experience, A motherboard knows when you throw a different cpu in and resets back to the default setting. At least this is so for me on my old BH6 and my BE6-II. Any time I switched CPU's it would switch back to the default setting for the board. Witch on my Abit BE6-II is 533mhz, that being a 66mhz fsb! Then I always had to go in and change it in the bios.


I'd also like to question the fact that this processor was not shipped in an anti-static bag. I know the affects that it could possibly have with other compomnents. Could something have happened while it was shipped to short it out. Guys we need to keep this post going, my hard earned dollars are on the line.....:)) Thanks.....:))

[dimmreaper]

Hows the Leadtek DDR been treating you Howard?

[Howard]

Jeff Evans (Mar 24, 2001 07:39 a.m.):
Hows the Leadtek DDR been treating you Howard?

Hey Just fine Jeff...:))........do me a favor and read this post. I bought a used CPU off the classifieds in this forum and I couldn't power up.......is there a possibility I could have fried this thing?

[dimmreaper]

By chance is the CPU a cC0? Here is a quote from Intels site in regards to chips with the cC0 stepping.

"Requires a motherboard with a split plane for the Vcc"

I could be that the BE62 doesn't support split plane power, which could result in such problems. Hope this helped :)