Let the games begin...

[Ashyukun]

Well, the Shipping Gods apparently like me at the moment- both my new case and one of the cC0 C-600's I was waiting for showed up considerably earlier than I was expecting. ;D The CPU is a system pull OEM cC0 (SL4PB), an also came with a definite POS HSF which will get thrown into my computer junk drawer until I find something to do with it (it's a bit big for much useful... though I may try and strap it to my PCI V3-2K if I try and overclock it...). Now all I have to do is pick up the case from my future in-law's house (long story :p ) and I can get started! Unfortunately, it will be a little while before I can post much on how high I can get it- I want to burn it in for a little while (though I might not bother quite as much with this chip, since it is a pull...) and I won't have my Slocket until sometime next week (I can still run it, though- one advantage of a MoBo with both a Socket 370 and a Slot 1...). If I get ambitious, I may take it up to 100FSB and see if it will do it alright after I get the computer running normally. Whee!

[Mr B]

I can't recall what mb you have? does it have vcore adjusments in the BIOS?Most Celeron 600's will get at least to 75 FSb at default, some will make it to 100.

You can reasonably expect 900 from that chip, with a slight nudge to the vcore. Mine is stable at 1020 /1.95v.

Good luck!

Mr B

[Ashyukun]

It's a Via Apollo Pro 133 AGP (not the 133a....), officially it's Jetway 993AN. Not the world's greatest board by any means, but it does have BIOS FSB bumps. Doesn't say anything about voltage adjustments in the manual, so I'm assuming I'll (until the MSI Slocket shows up next week...) have to see what I can get it to do with just standard voltage and tweaking the FSB. I've just finished getting all of the parts that were intended for the new computer (Minako) out of my current computer (Asuka) and getting Asuka back running again so I can look up info I may be lacking while setting up the new computer. Off we go!
;D

[[OC]Lucifer]

Mr B, how long have you had your celly running at that speed and voltage? I ran my CC0 600 at 2v - 1008 112mhz fsb for two months and it started to give me blue screens so I had to back off!
Mr B (Mar 24, 2001 05:03 p.m.):
I can't recall what mb you have? does it have vcore adjusments in the BIOS?Most Celeron 600's will get at least to 75 FSb at default, some will make it to 100.

You can reasonably expect 900 from that chip, with a slight nudge to the vcore. Mine is stable at 1020 /1.95v.

Good luck!

Mr B

[Mr B]

Had it in there two or three months myself. Pulled it two weeks ago when the Alpha P3125 hsf arrived for my slot 1 P/// 600E.

I had the C II 600 up to 1053/117 FSB/2.05v for a while, and backed off because the vcore was a bit on the high side, and I want this cpu to live for a while.

Somehow, I doubt the BSOD's you've had are CPU related, describe your system in a bit more detail....maybe we can track down the culprit.

Mr B

[Ashyukun]

Woohoo! I've got it running- currently just at the stock 600Mhz. It took a bit of work though-- I've got the damndest problem that I can't come -close- to figuring out what is causing it. For some reason, the video card (my PCI Voodoo3 2K) refuses to start up at all- the monitor just say "No Signal"- when my sound card- an Aureal A3D- is plugged in. I've tried every possible combination of slots, and it just won't work. :/ If it weren't letting me use the network card, I'd be -really- annoyed- not having the sound is just an annoyance at the moment. I would -love- some suggestions on fixing this!

[Mr B]

Sounds like an IRQ setting problem. Do you have PnP OS enabled in the BIOS? Enabling this will let Windows determine IRQ numbers automatically.

Is everything fully seated in their respective slots/sockets? Been known to happen as well.

If all else fails, take all but the cpu, ram, and vid card out, and then add one component at a time. This will help you track it down.

Mr B

[Ashyukun]

;D;D;D;D
SWEET!
Ok, I haven't had any luck in fixing the sound problem yet- I tried switching the OS over to PnP in the bios, but it still didn't work. The strange thing is that more than just the video card isn't happy... I lost the ability to use the power button to turn off the computer as well. Very very wierd.

But.... ;D

For the moment, I couldn't care less.... I switched the MoBo's jumpers from 66 up to 100 FSB, and currently have a nice 900Mhz Celeron running happily in W2K. I haven't really done anything to try and annoy it yet, but it is running nice and stable. Can someone tell me how to get those screenshots of Sanda's benchmarks? ^o^ If I feel particularly ambitious, I'll shut back down and try bumping the speed up more in the bios and see if I can't make this thing break a Gig.

[Mr B]

Hmmmm, sounds like a setting in your Power Management.

Ok, try this.....hold the power button for five seconds or so...count really slow. Your rig "should" shut down *I think*. Not reset, the main power button. If this shuts your rig down, you have a setting in the Power Management part of the BIOS, for "Power button/Soft off" or something to that effect. Sounds like this is set to "Suspend" If so, its working fine, as thats what suspend does. Holding the button for less than 4 seconds puts the system in sleep mode, with this setting.

Mr B

[Ashyukun]

Hmmm, I'll have to check on that. I can't figure why the sound card woudl be causing problems with that, though.

I've tried bumping the FSB up a bit more- it's currently running just fine at 103 (927Mhz), but I think that I'll need a BIOS update before I get it running over a Gig... I set the FSB to 112 and it posted as 53E. I think that I'll worry about that tomorrow... as soon as 3DMark2001 finishes downloading and I run it (that should be laughable on a Voodoo3 2000 ;D), I need to SLEEP.

[Slake]

WTG Ashyukin. I'm taking notes. I've got a Cel 600 Sl4PB cC0 waiting for a mobo. I'll go to school on your experience. Mr B has had great success with his 600's. Sorry bout yer power off problem. That happens to me when I set the FSB too high with SOFTFSB.
Luck!

[markedmundb]

Sounds like your sound is trying to steal the IRQ from the Vid card. Try playing with the placement of the cards. If possible try and find what PCI slots share what IRQs, and then move the sound to one where it's not conflicting with the Vid card.

A word of warning- some sound cards steal more than one 1 IRQ, for the different functions (i.e. 1 for MPU401, 1 for the main wav, etc playback, 1 for DOS emulation). I have IRQs 5 and 7 set up for Legacy ISA, else my sound or SCSI leap all over my LPT: IRQ (7).

Try killing off ACPI in the Power management setup. This can borrow an IRQ, and does very little AFAIK, also try disabling USB. VIA boards sometimes have problems with USB (or rather Windows does).

[Ashyukun]

markedmundb (Mar 25, 2001 08:39 a.m.):
Sounds like your sound is trying to steal the IRQ from the Vid card. Try playing with the placement of the cards. If possible try and find what PCI slots share what IRQs, and then move the sound to one where it's not conflicting with the Vid card.

A word of warning- some sound cards steal more than one 1 IRQ, for the different functions (i.e. 1 for MPU401, 1 for the main wav, etc playback, 1 for DOS emulation). I have IRQs 5 and 7 set up for Legacy ISA, else my sound or SCSI leap all over my LPT: IRQ (7).

Try killing off ACPI in the Power management setup. This can borrow an IRQ, and does very little AFAIK, also try disabling USB. VIA boards sometimes have problems with USB (or rather Windows does).

I'm fairly certain that I've tried every possible combination of slots with the sound and video cards to no avail. In a few minutes I'll probably sit down and list out all the possible combinations and try them one at a time. I tried disabling the ACPI and the USB, with no luck. If none of these work, I'll try assigning a few of the IRQs to Legacy and see what happens.

Does anyone know if having an AGP vid card would solve this problem, or would it likely have the same conflict?

[Ashyukun]

Well, I sat down and tried every possible conbination of the two cards in my 4 PCI slots, and none of them worked. I also used SiSandra to find the IRQ that the Voodoo was using and told the BIOS to assign it to Legacy ISA, and it still didn't work. *sigh*

What are people's thoughts on my flash-upgrading the BIOS? This board is pushing two years old, could the BIOS just not be able to handle this? Besides.... if I get it to run stable over 1Gig, I want it to show up as such, not as :53 .

[Ashyukun]

*sigh* Well, I haven't made much progress tonight... I tried downloading and installing W2K SP1, and it went boom and took out the rest of W2K with it. And my install disc for W2K didn't have a fun time together. I've got a good mind to convert the discs back to FAT32 and install W98 instead. :/