Can't get old PATA drive to work with SATA

[gustav]

well the name kinda says it. i just got a 74gb raptor, since my two 36.7 gb raptors wouldnt RAID 0. i planed on using the raptor with my old hard drive (which is cleared of old stuff and formatted). so i tried with 1 36.7 raptor (since i couldnt get the two to work together) and i tried it now with the 74 gb raptor. it doesnt work. in my bios, i have it set to P-ATA + S-ATA. in the hard drive configuration, i have the raptor set at #1 (3M-WD and a bunch of number/letters) and the old seagate at #2 (PM-S and a bunch of numbers/letter). but when i boot into windows, it says it recongnizes the drive, but then i go to my computer and its not there. i have the drive on the primary IDE and my two optical drives on the secondary IDE. i tried all the jumper configs on the back of the drive but none of them would work. does anyone have any idea how to get this 5,400 rpm seagate to work as a storage drive on my computer? im thinking i should try writing 0's to drive, but i dont know how to do that. if someone could tell me how, that would be great. also any other suggestions would be great as well.

[Caffinehog]

Originally posted by gustav
and the old seagate at #2 (PM-S and a bunch of numbers/letter).

That's the problem. It has PMS!

Just kidding.
If you have windows 2000 or XP, go into control panel-> administrative tools-> computer management-> storage-> disk management. See if the drive shows up. It may need to be formatted again, especially if you did so under a different installation of XP.

[Como]

yeah, i'd try to repartition it. (delete the partitions and make a new one) if something (anything) recognises the drive, and it doesnt show in windwos, its almost always a partition issue. ("my computer" shows partitions, not drives, so a faulty/non existant partition wont show up)
good luck...and do you have like a million dolalrs?! wish i could but 2 34G raptors then just get a 74 when they arent happy together...i'd be ****ing myself if i got my hands on a raptor!

[theELVISCERATOR]

I would def make sure bios is updated..asus boards lately been a bit twitchy...
I run a raptor raid 0 setup make sure you set bios correctly for raid under onboard equipment also...

[gustav]

alright. i got it. it needed to be reformatted.

como: no i dont have a million dollars, but i told my mom i want to build a good system that will last me a while and that these drives were necissary. of course i have to pay her back. but i told her she'd have to wait til i can get a job.

first i couldnt get the 2 36gb raptors to work, and they together cost $240. so whats $20 more for the 74gb version?

so anyway, i have a new problem. sure the 40 gig drive is formatted, but when i couldnt get it to work on this computer, i thought i could put it on the other computer and share it over the network. so when i put it in, again, it wasnt recongnized. so then i thought i would reformat it. so i put in my windows xp disk and booted up. note that the 80gig hard drive in the other computer was the master and the 40 gig was a slave. so when the windows install started up, it showed the HP recovery and C: drives on the 80 gig drive of the HP computer i was doing this on. then it also showed the other drive, and it was formatted. so i hit enter for it to start the windows install, and it formatted it. but then it started to put on files before i could shut off the computer. so when i rebooted, it says windows cannot recongnize the drive or something, so when it boots i hit Esc many times, and it brings up a screen asking me if i want to do win xp pro or win whistler home personal. so i choose the personal and it starts up fine. the problem is, part of the xp pro install is on the 80 gig hard drive on the HP computer. is there any way i can get rid of it or would i have to reformat it and reinstall windows on the HP?

[Como]

umm...reinstall home over it? i dotn beleive XP copies files to the hard drive immediately, when the blue screen come up at first i think its loading to RAM, but i'm not sure. not much exp with XP here, i hated it since it was announced as a project.

also, i'll bet it repartitioned it, not formatted. (then formatted after...) 2000 and XP dont care to use big words and they group partitioning with formatting. i use 98/DOS (i love dos...) so i do a-lot iwht partitions. (i also love partition magic :) )

[gustav]

yeah i wanted to get rid of the xp pro thing without reformatting or reinstalling windows. although its not a bad idea because my sister uses that computer and she downloads music like hell, and guess what she uses, the worst one ever, kazaa. that program put so much crap on your computer its not even funny. and she doesnt even care about getting busted for piracy. that computer should run fine. its really not that bad of a computer. but its got a bunch of spyware on it that i cant get rid of (using adware 6.0 and spybot search and destroy). if you delete the spyware and ad **** off the computer, kazaa doesnt work. and my mom doesnt care thay she does it. it makes the computer so slow, it takes 2 minutes to open my computer. only reason im really concerned is some of that crap can be transfered over the network to my computer.

[Th0r]

Originally posted by gustav
yeah i wanted to get rid of the xp pro thing without reformatting or reinstalling windows. although its not a bad idea because my sister uses that computer and she downloads music like hell, and guess what she uses, the worst one ever, kazaa. that program put so much crap on your computer its not even funny. and she doesnt even care about getting busted for piracy. that computer should run fine. its really not that bad of a computer. but its got a bunch of spyware on it that i cant get rid of (using adware 6.0 and spybot search and destroy). if you delete the spyware and ad **** off the computer, kazaa doesnt work. and my mom doesnt care thay she does it. it makes the computer so slow, it takes 2 minutes to open my computer. only reason im really concerned is some of that crap can be transfered over the network to my computer.

Well, I woundn't worry about Kazaa that much, it will get closed down...

[gustav]

yes, and in the meantime the other computer in the house runs like ****, and i dont want any of the stuff on it to get transfered to mine over the network.

[Caffinehog]

Get her on Kazza lite! If she resists, let her know that kazaa lite gives her a rating of 1000, and therefore the quickest downloads.
And format your drive in FAT32... NTFS is unreadable by 95, 98, ME. Also, XP may encrypt the drive, preventing it from being run on anything but that installation of XP.

Oh, yeah... also get adaware, update it, then clean all the crap out of everything... and repeat regularly.

[gustav]

Originally posted by Caffinehog
get her on Kazza lite! And format the thing in FAT32... NTFS is unreadable by 95, 98, ME. Also, XP may encrypt the drive, preventing it from being run on anything but that installation of XP.

Oh, yeah... also get adaware, update it, then clean all the crap out of everything... and repeat regularly.

for one i thought kazaa lite was worse. besides, i unstalled kazaa a while back and then she bitched that it was off so i put it back on, but by then kazaa lite was out. so thats whats on it and theres still adware and spyware on it. i also said i have adaware and spybot search and destroy and if i get rid of the spyware, kazaa wont launch. it says i have removed programs that it needs to run, aka the spyware. also someone told me FAT32 is bad or something, and besides, the windows isntall formats the drive in NTFS and i dont see whats wrong with it.

[Caffinehog]

If Kazaa won't launch without spyware, then you aren't using Kazaa lite. Kazaa lite has none of the junk. I'd uninstall the old kazaa, restart, then install the new one. If you feel like it, you can resume the old downloads by making the old shared folder into the new one.

[gustav]

i dunno i dl and installed kazaa light and the junk is still there.

basicly, if your not paying for kazaa, your getting crap with it whether u like it or not. same goes for most other free p2p programs.

[Como]

actually i have one, just one, that i can delete all teh spyware and it still runs great. granted i never use it untill i cant find the box to some old game and i need a cd key, (warcraft 2 has the SN on the case of the cd, as with starcraft and most games...i store my cds in spindles and cant ever find the right case), but it has no spyware. it too kme a few tries to get it, a few of them were lite ripoffs with third company spyware in them, without hte origonal spyware.some people will screw others for cheap, beleive me.$100 would be enough for me to upload virus ridden software :( well, at least till i get a job, then it would take closer to a million, i hate to do it but...yeah.

if it runs XP, jsut uninstall it and deny the rights to install programs. whne she tries to install it, "Acess denid", and say you dont know how to fix it ;) works for me, i've nto gotten around ot fixing hte sound on my sisters computer for months, its a stupid ISA card and i have to set the IRQ so it doesnt conflict. 10 mins max? whatever, "i dont know why it doesnt work". 'sides, i'm stealing the speakers off it for a customer soon :-P

[Th0r]

Personaly about telling him about Kazaa Lite, Would of been better though PM as we might all get in trouble for this...

[mR. STuPiD]

The original Kazaa lite has been shut down. All the sites that used to be used to download it now have been taken over and instead are normal kazaa. If you want to remove the crap, you can go to zeropaid.com and search for diet kazaa. Also, a guy on the forums there is making a sort of quazi-kazaalite. It is an installer that you run under the kazaa installer and it makes it so none of the spyware is installed and some utilities from the original kazaa lite are installed. If you don't really care about that stuff, you just want to get the spyware/adware off, try running adaware or spybot in safe mode. I'm not 100% sure it will work, but I believe safe mode makes it so no processes will run on boot except for the essential ones to run windows.

[Como]

yeah, spybot S&D will reboot the comptuer and run itself before anything else loads, if it finds spyware/adware in the memorey already :) its cool, i try to run it monthly on all my of computers, but having dalalup i rarely get anything.