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OpenFriday
04-05-01, 07:48 PM
Ok guys try as i might i cannot get this HSF off the mobo. I'm not going to lie to you. I have no idea how to get this off.Theres two notches and 2 ends of a clip attached. I cannot yank it of. Any one have any tips/tools/tricks?
I much prefered the less effective but easier clipping design of the Pentium. Now that was easy.\
ohhh the reason i want it off is because my temps are 54C as some of you know so i phoned the comp shop that sold it to me. I asked a few q's and found out they used no compound between the HS and cpu!!!!!! so i planned to lap it and add some compund to it and bring it down a few degrees but then my problem arose. Sorry for the newbie question but i cant figure it out.
-OpenFriday
Nagorak
04-05-01, 11:10 PM
Intel HSFs use a thermal pad between the CPU and the heatsink. When it heats up the thermal pad melts and the heatsink gets stuck to the chip. So, this might be your problem.
Shadow рс
04-06-01, 01:06 AM
yea OpenFriday.....they use an OEM heatsink....it has a thermal compound. Although it sucks it's better than none....so don't think you have none.
I use a very small pair of needle nose pliars.....yea their a bioch to get off, but if you grab it from the side....pull down first....then pull away from the 370 slot it'll move. Trust me....those zif sockets can take more pressure than you think. But then again you think too much and it'll snap. Watch carefully....when you press down with the "grab" make sure you press no lower than you need to, to clear the lug.
Whenever I have a heatsink stuck to a chip such as my OLD p100 I used to have, I just toss the thing in the freezer for an hour or so and peel it off, you may not be able to do this, but it's an idea.
-AoD
I dunno if I understand what you're talking about here.
"I cannot get this HSF off the mobo."
Off the mobo? Anyway, if you're having trouble getting a retail H/S fan off a slot 1 PIII, here's how to remove it!
http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/p3_heatsink_remove2.htm
William
04-06-01, 08:09 AM
ok, well to get it off the mobo, i guess not the cpu, i would use a messy ole dremel, just be careful. I had to do this once, i just covered the surrounding area with cloth and then used a damp cloth and a refrigerator magnet to clean up the shards. Works well, but makes a mess.
jeff_harrison_344
04-06-01, 08:52 AM
Open Friday you talkin of the MOBO or the CPU?
William
04-06-01, 11:34 AM
if it is the cpu, just use a flat object such as a table knife and GENTLY pry the hsf off. Just rotate it around rocking the knife to distribute the presure evenly and it should come off. I have used this to remove a waterblock from arctic silver epoxy. It works well as long as you do it gently and rotate it around the CPU to distribute the load.
ExtremeOC
04-06-01, 12:01 PM
i've killed 2 mobos because of pushing the HS/F clip down to far....
thats y i use a slotket
cheaper and u can O'C even if the board doesnt!
OpenFriday
04-06-01, 01:39 PM
No no getting it of the cpu and de attaching it from zif socket. Sorry for my late reply, had to go to school. Ok i'll try needle nose plyers tonight. So i push down, and pull with needle nose? got ya. Thermal pad? ive heard only bad things about this oh well i'll lap it and apply some of the shacks compund. Thanks all.
sorry i made question un clear "How to take HSF off mobo" i ment zero insertion froce socket.
haha. when I got my celeron 466 from my friends old gateway machine I was a bit pissed off at the intel heatsink fan too. I just went balls to the wall and pulled out my screwdriver and pryed it off. probably not the brightest thing to do but its up and running at 584 mhz now with my alpha fan and a bit of thermal greese. the celeron chips are pretty tough.
OpenFriday
04-06-01, 08:56 PM
Yes well as i have a little cash flow problem i must be gentle. Im about to head off now and do it as its Friday night and no ones home. I'll report back in the morning with the reasults i.e. temp drop. If im not back by morning presume i screwed something up and wont be on for a while. Hopefully that wont happen.
-OpenFriday
Shadow рс
04-07-01, 02:30 AM
OpenFriday -Senior Member (Apr 06, 2001 01:39 p.m.):
No no getting it of the cpu and de attaching it from zif socket. Sorry for my late reply, had to go to school. Ok i'll try needle nose plyers tonight. So i push down, and pull with needle nose? got ya. Thermal pad? ive heard only bad things about this oh well i'll lap it and apply some of the shacks compund. Thanks all.
sorry i made question un clear "How to take HSF off mobo" i ment zero insertion froce socket.
very important to take your time and WATCH that you pull down no more than necessary....twist to clear the lug. DO NOT use a screw driver.....one slip and you could be out a mobo.
Which brings me to....I had a friend "slip" and scratch the surface of the mobo. He was determined to fix it so he took 14 guage stranded wire from a lamp.....took an individual strand and re soldered a jumper across the scratch for each trace he had destroyed. It worked and probably cost him 10 hours....but definitely cost him less than the replacement $120 mobo. =)
Just in case it goes wrong.
OpenFriday
04-07-01, 12:57 PM
Thanks to all who helped. Took to 20 minutes last night with 2 precision screwdrivers and a bit of luck. But got her off and found no thermal pad. They had used compound contrary to what they said on the phone. Well I lapped it and added a thinner layer of compound (the layer was far too thick.) Temp dropped 3C so that was excellent. Running @51F instead of 54C. Not a big difference, but for the cost ($0) and 1/2 an hour it was well worth it. Thanks.
-OpenFriday
Rainmaker
04-17-01, 05:22 PM
Think it's hard getting one off the socket? Try getting one on. The new intel hsf clips are really hard to put in place. I just got a c600. Tried using my old global win cpm32. No go because of the base thingy. Had to use the retail hsf. Had to be really careful not to hit the traces on the slocket. In the end I took the clip from the cpm32 and used it in the retail fan.
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