Celeron 633 SL4NY on ASUS P2B /w S370-L only oc'd to 791??? Please Help!!!

[Frio]

Okay I had a cel266 running at 400 on this p2b for the last 2+ years with 128mb pc100 mircron ram. I just popped in a cel633 sl4ny on an asus s370-dl slocket. Right now its running stable at 791 @ 1.8 vcore. It seems to run fine at 1.6 too but the monitor was showing the vcore at 2.0 so I switched it back to 1.8. I've tried bumping the the fsb up to 100 to get it to 950 and i've had it post once at 1.6(2.0?) and neither at 1.8 or 1.9. After it posted it crashed & froze loading the 2000 kernel. I'm just using the intel fan & heatsink. I'm thinking about buying a new cpu cooler but i'm not sure what to get. If anyone has any ideas please let me know on either the cooling or the oc problem. From what I've read this cpu should do 950 quite readily. My mobo is only rev 1.02 so i dont have any cpu temp but the mobo temp is between 28-29C. Please help, i'd really like to get this bitch to 950. Thanks.

[Frio]

UPDATE:
I CAN get the system to post at 950 at various vcore settings, i guess I didnt try hard enough. it posted at 1.6, 1.8, 1.85, 1.9, 1.95, & 2.0 if I remember correctly. However if I change something in the bios and go back it will not post a 2nd time, I suspect that it would also crash & freeze loading 2k. Does this now become a temperature issue? I can touch the heatsink and it doesnt feel hot, its warm but not hot. I have also bumped it down to 712 because I read that the 83mhz bus can cause damage to your other buses because it bumps them up too high.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Can't help you on anything but one part. "touching the hsf" really means one of 2 things. If you touch it and it's not even a little warm, your CPU is running cool.....or it "should" be running hot and you don't have good contact.

Are you using better than average thermal compound? Are you sure your hsf is making good contact. Is it an oem hsf? Is it an extremely smooth surface on the hsf? It's not at the least 'cocked' on the chip is it?

I know, if nothing else, it should feel warm even at oem speeds.

[Frio]

I think that its making good contact, i didnt use any thermal compound, i just threw the intel hsf on the way it came in the box. it was kind of a bitch to get it on so i figured it was on tight enough. not really all that sure though. the surface seemed smooth when i put it on. is there an easy way to test if its making good contact? thanks for the heads up.

[DocClock aka MadClocker]

If the h.s. didn't have any thermal material at all, that would make a big difference...got to have some kind of thermal conductive material...to fill in the micro scratches in the die, and the h.s.. and give a better transfer of heat to the h.s....and if you haven't read it already.....most of us that hang here preffer "Arctic Silver" thermal transfer compound...which can reduce your cpu temps by a large margin

[Shadow ÒÓ]

then it probably came with heat sink tape.....a small yellow patch.

you could go to radio shack and pick up a tube for about $1.99 and would out preform that tape by 30% or more.....I'd highly recommend it.

If there was literally nothing between them, I'd shut down and never start again until you obtained "something".

It's true tho.....Artic Silver or Artic Silver II are the favorites here.....99% silver liquid.

[Frio]

yeah there was a little piece of something on the heatsink when i put it on, a little square some kind of tape or something. anyway, i'm thinking of going with a new hsf either the globalwin fop38 or the alpha pal307t. cluboverclockers.com highly recoments the globalwin but i couldnt find any info on the alpha. any suggestions? thanx for tips on the thermal compound.

[Frio]

BIG UPDATE. PLEASE HELP!

Okay today I got a Golden Orb, a Sunon 80mm case fan, & some Arctic Silver II. The thermal compound is on right, it almost looked identical to the picture on their site. I strapped the Orb on without messing anything up. Put the case fan in, bumped the slocket vcore up to 1.9 and the fsb to 100MHz. I booted and it looked like it was going to work, Windows 2000 began its boot and the first progress meter got up to 100% then the second one started and got about half way and then blue screen. I rebooted and got a different blue screen at almost the same point. I rebooted and the system restarted on the first progress meter. I tried 2.0VCore and basically the same things happened. I have gotten further than before but I still can't get 950. My case is DAMN cool now, the mobo temp is 18 with my case off right now at 712MHz and the GOrb is cool too touch, doesnt feel warm at all. So temperature shouldn't be an issue. Did I just get a weak CPU? Please any help if you can. Thanks. I've spent too much on this lousy Celeron already. Haha!

[logos]

i am a big advocate of the BURN IN. twice a good burn in has allowed me to get way more out of a chip than when i started. oh ya, you should have got an alpha! although heat probably won't be a problem...

[Frio]

Okay, thanks for the advice, how much of a burn in is going to be sufficent? Also I got the GOrb because I didn't need that much cooling and the alpha would have made me lose one of my DIMM slots which wasn't acceptable.

[Sohryu Asuka Langley]

I dont know how you can say you dont need good cooling. the retail intel hsf is so crap that a perfect mounting still results in a cool to touch application. i have blue orb grease on a crap amd cooler rated 1Ghz at the thing gets not to friendly to touch at 770@788

burn in 2 months at low speed high voltage!

[Travis]

I have the same problem with the same board I can boot up my win98 at 950 at 2.0V. In the win it is stable but when I run any type of game THE BLUE DEATH or LOCKUP come and I'm very angry with this. I have TITAN M1AB(golden orb). What with this?

[logos]

with the burn in you just have to try lots of stuff and gradually you'll get stable at higher fsbs. crank up the voltage as high as she'll take it and run it at stock fsb for a while, hours, days, whatever, then bump up the fsb. it may take an hour it may take a week it might never happen! the chip i have now was difficult like that i just kept playing with it. even when it tops at a certain voltage, after a day or two it will cool down and you can up the voltage again.

took me a week to get to 100 fsb and after about 3 weeks of upping the voltage and fsb and my chip just wouldn't go any higher than 105 fsb. idled at 22 degreesat the 2.0 volts (default 1.65!) so heat is not the problem, she just won't go higher .