overclocked celeron or P3 600

[bunny]

I currently have a p3 600b set at 133mhz and pc 133 ram
and a tyan s1854 trinty board.

I was thinking about switching over to a celeron and overclocking it to somethiing like 1.3 ghz, at least thats what I read people had one of them up to.

my question is will it be faster then my current set up. I know celerons dont support the faster bus speed. so will I notice a difference.
best performance for games!!!!!!!!!!!
if it was you what would you do??


thanks

dustin

[Ashyukun]

bunny (Apr 06, 2001 11:39 a.m.):
I currently have a p3 600b set at 133mhz and pc 133 ram
and a tyan s1854 trinty board.

I was thinking about switching over to a celeron and overclocking it to somethiing like 1.3 ghz, at least thats what I read people had one of them up to.

my question is will it be faster then my current set up. I know celerons dont support the faster bus speed. so will I notice a difference.
best performance for games!!!!!!!!!!!
if it was you what would you do??


thanks

dustin

I know that there has been some benchmarking work done comparing PIIIs to overclocked Celerons. I don't have any of the links handy (I'd imagine that someone will post one or two), but I seem to remember the overclocked Celerons holding their own in most games.

However, you might want to do a bit of a reality check- without some serious, really hard-core cooling, you're not likely to get a Celeron up to 1.3Ghz. Most people with halfway standard cooling setups (i.e., good HSFs and good case airflow) are doing well to get a Celeron II 600 up around 1.1Ghz- somewhere between 900 and a Gig is more common. Check out the CPU database- for the CII-600, the average overclock speed is 919Mhz, and there are only two entries over 1.1Ghz. The odds are that if you get a good cC0 Celeron II, you'll probably be able to overclock it enough to equal the performance of your PIII chip- but I could be wrong, that 133fsb may give it some edge. Assume you MoBo can't go over 133? If it can, and your memory will take it, that might be an option. Good luck!

[[OC]_SR20DE]

yeah... C2s have good overclocking potential but hitting from 600 to 1.3 Gig.. hehe... that's not likely will happen.

On your P3, if your mobo, memory, and CPU can take 150mhz FSB or more, you'll get upto 675mhz+. That beefed up FSB will do you well.. but I'm not sure if that will outperform C2 overclocked @ around 1Ghz. If anyone has benched betw. these setups, would be great!! :)

[Phil]

to start with was this a joke? ok with that done, super cooling celerons is not economical, if you knock of 200mhz from what ever speed you get from super coling it (celerons perform about as fast as a p3 200mhz slower) then you usually have a speed which could be attained with air cooling on a p3, for example at 1.3ghz (highly unlikely and I use the word unlikely only becasue any physicist will tell you nothing is impossible) you get 1.1ghz which is quite a common over clock for 1ghz p3's and would cost less, you best bet if you want to upgrade is a 700mhz cCO p3 and overclock it to 933-1ghz+ using your existing ram and board

[Mr B]

Gilbert Godfrey might answer this like;

"1.03, I can see....1.3, not so much. But 1.03...I can see...."

Unless you plan on liquid nitrogen cooling for it, 1.3 GHz will not happen with a Celeron 600. That equates out to 145 FSB, which lives far and away outside the realm of the Celeron.

1.03 GHz, on the other hand, is a much more reasonable 115 FSB, and even then you have to get almost the one in a million chip to do this. Ashyukan hit the nail right on the head, here. Most Celeron II chips top out at around 950 to 1000 MHz (1 GHz). Each chip overclocks differently, some are world beaters, and some are just beaters.

The general rule of thumb on the C II vs. the P/// is, take 200 MHz off the top of your overclocked Celeron, and that is the P/// it equals. Example; A Celeron 600 running at 100 FSB equals 900 MHz (100 x 9). Knock 200 off of that, and it's roughly the same as a P/// 700 running default. The superior L2 cache of the P///, plus the higher bus speed it runs at, makes a world of difference.

If you read my "sig" you will see what I have for my two "primary" chips. The P/// outperforms the Celeron here, hands down.

A P/// EB chip is a toughie to overclock with any significant sucess, due to the fact it's running at 133 FSB at default. Not much headroom with these chips. The P/// E chips (100 FSB) are the way to go here.

If you got a Celeron that ran at 950 MHz, it would likely be better than the P/// you have. Not much, but a bit.

Mr B

[bunny]

theres not much I can do for my 600b
it wont go any farther especially on my board. it locks up everytime where i cant even get into the bios,

just a quick answer!!

WILL A OVERCLOCKED CELERON TO 1GIG BE FASTER THEN MY 600MHZ p3(RUNNING AT 133 BUS)

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Yes :) :) :) Mr. B said it too.. I think Celeron would be good.

[Carmine_Paterno]

it depends, if it is a Celeron 566 it will be close. If it is a Celeron 600 basically the same. Anything more, won't beat it.

[®¡©|<¥]

firstly you said change to celeron you didn't say which celeron, if its a 600 I wouldn't see much point (I think every aspect has been covered already) so if getting a celeron 600 from a P!!! 600 - I wouldn't but in the end its YOUR CHOICE! don't let anyone dictate to you what to buy, Ive been in this situation so many times here.

[WizardCalledJosh]

I usually use the rule of thumb (I made this one for my self for cost restaints) If I can't upgrade to twice the speed I have now and afford it with the money in my pocket then I just have to sit and waite for the prices to go down. I had a p2-233mhz for 1.5 years before this system. I only got a voodoo1 the last 6 months of that. My point is (and no one like to admit but its true) every gamer wants the best, you can only afford so much and technology is ever increasing exponentially, so just keep your bread for 6 months and get something really nice. What you are thinking of now just won't make that much of a difference than what you have now. and in 6 months it will be even less. think of it htis way, save it and get a totally new system when the new generatioin of intel's come out, then you will be back on top for a while. All IMHO