p3 850@956 need 1G help!!!!

[spawnfan]

I have had this p3 at 956 for about 3 months now with fsb @117 v.170 but if i try to go for more i cant even get out of bios. cpu is running at 54c so is it heat.(ordered thermoengine today) would love some help as I am newbie:)



p3850@956
msi mobo (not sure what type YET!)
evga geforce2 mx 210/200
stock 128pc100 sdram (no cash for upgrade right now)

[scorpion12]

I don't claim to be an expert at al, but those temps are prolly too high... Have you got Arctic Silver under the heat sink/fan? This could lower the temps a bit... Have you run a system monitoring tool and checked the internal temp of the case? It might be an airflow problem as well...

Just some of what I've learned on this board.

Good luck


Scorpion12

[Placid]

[quote]spawnfan (Apr 22, 2001 10:27 p.m.):
I have had this p3 at 956 for about 3 months now with fsb @117 v.170 but if i try to go for more i cant even get out of bios. cpu is running at 54c so is it heat.(ordered thermoengine today) would love some help as I am newbie:)

Well since you are using the stock cpu cooler and have ordered a new one I guess there is not much to tell you until you get the cooler and see what your temps are with it installed.
You should have the same temp with the case cover off as with it on or very close.
If there is a big difference then you will need to get more airflow thru your case.

[Super]

I agree with scorpion12, arctic silver will help you, and if you have ABIT m.board , check your CD that came with the board, its supposed to have VIAhm. Its gonna tell you a lot about the temperatures, but if you have another board, check their web site. Oh and when you'll be applying arctic silver, use something like a credit card to apply, and apply it in THIN layer. If you will put a thick one, it will hurt you. And I think a few extra case fans won't hurt, not that you can't live without them, its just that if your temperatures are high, you should consider getting some.

Keep posting your further questions! (if you have any)

Good Luck!

[spawnfan]

went to Radio Shack got thermal compound running at 48*c
is this still too high,i think so but not sure. Heatsink/fan that came with comp is a cooler master if that means anything
and is running with side cover off right now.
any futher suggestions woulld be appreciated.
will try to get Artic Silver as soon as wife lets me.
kinda pissed about thermalengine when she found out.

[Dumbass BP6'er]

Don't worry about Arctic Silver...Great stuff, but it's not like it's gonna make a huge difference. (Small, yes.) So long as you're only using a thin layer of either compound, there's not that much difference. The thermoengine should make the real difference. It may get you some extra MHz, but if you're not getting out of BIOS at above 956, you may not get a stable 1 GHz without some more serious cooling.

Good luck,

jon

[bdf24]

I've got an 800E slot 1. Put it this way. My chip while running at 1008mhz will not run stable or even load any 3D games if the temps reach around 28 or 29c! Without a pelt. I cant even get into windows at anything higher then 960mhz stable. I had a 50w peltier wich allowed me to run at 1000mhz in the winter. But with summer last year it would lock up due to the extra heat.
Now I have this 85w peltier which brings my idle temps around 14 to 15c. But I should have my water cooling in withing the next week or so along with my 85w peltier. With that installed it should take me thru the summer just fine.

[Placid]

Well now that you have a heatsink raise the voltage.
Not getting any boot is usually a sign you need more voltage.
The temps your seeing are they thru the bios?
Inaccurate readings thru other means are quite possible. 48C is 118f what is the air temp in the room?
My cpu runs at idle about 11f over room temp with a alpha 3125s.
I am using a p3 800 cBo slot 1 and it runs 100% stable at 1008 with stock 1.6v When I try to go to the next step 1066 it wont even boot past bios until I raise the voltage to 1.7 and then locks up entering windows.
1.8 it goes into windows fine but wont run very long. My mobo wont let me take the voltage any higher.
Every chip is different.
I guess I am lucky to get to 1008 but I still wanted to get to 133fsb.
The thermal spec (point of damage)
is 80c so I doubt you are in danger of damage but it does help alot when pushing a cpu to the max to keep it cool as possible.
I also belive that when you need to start upping the voltage to get a p3 to run its close to or at max that the individual cpu is going to go.

[outhouse]

48C is still to hot one thing you can check is to make sure the HSF is sitting perfectly on top of the processor no angles at all, this does not happen often but it does everyonce in awhile and it will cause problems such as yours. your not overclocked that far to be so hot. good luck by the way i have a coolermaster lapped and with radioshack compound and its doing a pretty good job for me

[spawnfan]

thx for the help. now this is weird to me maybe you cool mofos can help with this one. i was looking at my cpu temp in bios still 48c for the most part
but jumping up and down (weird) so i found out my mobo is a msi ms-6153
and off to msi web page find board find flash flash it out (or however that goes!) and much to my disliking here comes boot up at 72c what the $#%*
with cpu reset to 850mhz 100fsb. so go into bios reset to 956@117fsb just to see what it would do to temp. temp did not move after using 3dmark2001
b&w,and poping in and out of files. so go back to bios just to see!! set fsb @
120 with 1.85v = 1012mhz rock solid still @ 72c tho. now I know this is ttttooo dam hotttt!!!!! not sure what to next tho since it was still runing at 72c
or 48c or what ever from the get go!!! hlp

[Placid]

Wait until you get the thermoengine before pushing it. That should keep the temps in check. At least you know your cpu can hit 1 gig.
Not much else you can do cept maybe get a house fan and point it at the cpu.
Have you tried putting the case cover on at stock fsb and see if your temps went up much?
That would be the next thing to do get the computer to run at about the same temp with the cover on as with it off. You may need to add a fan or 2.
Unless your fine with the cover off all the time.

[Treker]

spawnfan (Apr 22, 2001 10:27 p.m.):
I have had this p3 at 956 for about 3 months now with fsb @117 v.170 but if i try to go for more i cant even get out of bios. cpu is running at 54c so is it heat.(ordered thermoengine today) would love some help as I am newbie:)

p3850@956
msi mobo (not sure what type YET!)
evga geforce2 mx 210/200
stock 128pc100 sdram (no cash for upgrade right now)
Whoa m8ty, for starters your temp is TOO HIGH, I'd never let my cpu get past 45c for starters, you will want to tune down your cpu untill you get better cooling, you are seriously risking frying your cpu, and that is Not a Good Thing (tm).

I can imagen why it wont get outa the bios at that temp m'friend at 54c you are trying to overclock that cpu with a temputure of 129.2!

If I where you I'd tone that baby down till better cooling comes along, if not your risking a melt down.

-Trek