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Scann69
04-26-01, 11:34 AM
i am currently using a Celeron 600@930MHz. problem is that i cannot get it up to 1GHz so now i'm planing to get a Celeron 800 that runs at 100 MHz FSB and was wondering if i will be able to get it to run at 1GHz or higher. i am using a BH6 so the highest FSB will be 133 max. what is the clock multiple for the celeron 800? has anybody got the Celeron 800 higher then 1Ghz? hope tp hear good news :) Thanx in advance.

Lancelot
04-26-01, 02:10 PM
I'm running a Celeron 800 and I'm very content with it. The multiplier is 8 with a 100Mhz FSB makes 800. She's rock rolid at 1Ghz with default voltages! I have ran her for weeks at 1050Mhz (131FSB), and have even been up to 1120 (140Mhz FSB). However everything above 125Mhz gives me a BSOD from time to time (even after running for hours without any signs of instability) and it took alot of upping of Voltages, lowering the CAS to 3-3-3, and increasing the PCI latency to 64 to get it rock stable. I'm suspecting my RAM cuz I have one CL2 PC100 stick and a CL3 PC133 stick together. In time I'll get a decent 256MB CL2 PC133 stick and see what happens. I think it's possible to get her at 1066 (8*133) with CAS222 and without upping the Vio any further...

Lancelot
04-26-01, 03:10 PM
Oh and b.t.w. I think you meant 1000Mhz instead of 1000Ghz! I think It'll take about 15 years before we see a 1000Ghz (1 Terrahertz) CPU, and I don't think it'll be a Celeron, LOL!

Phil
04-26-01, 03:47 PM
don't buy a celeron 800, they are well overpriced, they cost about the same as the p3 700 and this chip well outperforms it, especially when overclocked, with the celeron 800 you will probabally get to 1ghz maybe a little more, seeing as a celeron performs as well as a p3 clocked around 150-200mhz slower at 1ghz it will only be as fast as an 800-850mhz p3 and at default clock speed it will be as fast as a 600mhz p3, where as the p3 700 will overclock to about 933mhz which would need a celeron clocked at 1.1ghz to perform as well, a lot of 700's also make it to more than 1ghz. The 800 is meant for people buying their first computer and just see 800mhz and a seemingly low price, but it is worse value than a p3 taking into account it's performance and overclockabilty

Scann69
04-26-01, 03:51 PM
so then getting the celeron 800 to reach 1000 MHz should not be a problem i guess. sadly i'm only having a bh6 so the FSB goes as far as 133 only. will probably get a better MoBo soon. anyway how high do u think i can put the voltage before the chip burns? i'm using a FOP - 38 so i guess that is good enough. also thanx for the info. will get the chip in the next 2 days :)


here P III is very expensive and furthermore i don't think my bh6 can support the P III 700 or anything higher. i manage to sell my Celeron II 600 and am now planing to get the Celeron II 800 which if it does not perform well enough then i'll sell it again and get a better one :) Thanx for the infor guys.

Phil
04-26-01, 03:59 PM
a p3 at 933 (7x133) will outperform a celeron at 1ghz (8x125), it would even outperform it at 1066mhz (8x133) and they cost about the same, if I were you I would either settle for your celeron 600 seeing as with the celeron 800 you are only going to be getting around 8% faster with the 800, also you will be relying on pci bus speeds way out of speck or under spec (does it have a 1/4 divider for 31mhz?) I really don't think the celeron 800 is worth the price especially as you already have a 600@930mhz, unless you are only doing it so you can say "I have a 1ghz computer" which is just silly

Lancelot
04-27-01, 12:19 PM
I agree with Phil that it's just no use getting a 800 when you're already at 930. It would cost you dearly for 70Mhz and a little bus-speed more. In my case the 800 was a huge upgrade cuz I came from a Celeron 400@450. So I gained (at least for now) 550Mhz, SSE instructions, and the FSB went from 75 to 125, and ALL WITH THE SAME SYSTEM!!! I didn't repace anything else, only needed a BIOS update...

Scann69
04-27-01, 03:49 PM
well, i guess i won't be getting the celeron 800 since there is not much of a difference. sadly i have already sold my celeron 600 and now i'm left with a Pentium III 450 @ 600 MHz. i wonder is this Pentium III 450 @ 600 on par with the celeron 600 @ 930MHz? also is my Pentium too hot if it is at 45 - 50 C at full load. it came with the whole box thing so i'm still stuck with the original HSF that came with it.i never did overclock this CPU b4 so i won't know if it is too hot. guess i'll have to change my signature after this :(

logos
04-27-01, 03:57 PM
Scann69 (Apr 27, 2001 03:49 p.m.):
sadly i have already sold my celeron 600 and now i'm left with a Pentium III 450 @ 600 MHz. :(

why don't you pick up a p3?

Scann69
04-27-01, 04:26 PM
well, i have the cash but here in Malaysia there are only the P3 EB left which means it runs at 133 MHz. that is not so good for overclocking since my motherboard can only reach a maximum of 133 FSB and i don't plan to buy a new MoBo. if i did then i'l get an AMD this time :) freaking **** right :-) thanx anyway

Phil
04-27-01, 04:34 PM
as I pointed out earlier the celeron is as fast as a p3 200mhz slower, this isn't quite as true when comparing with the katmai core which is about 10% slower than the coppermine p3, it is still faster than a celeron at the same speed, I would say that at 600mhz your p3 is about as fast as a celeron at maybe 700mhz, I definately recomend trying to get a 700E p3, try an online store that will deliver overseas

Bias
04-27-01, 04:50 PM
lo m8
I've got the BH6 as well and I'm currently running a Piii 750@916 (did have a 700@960 but crushed the core) on an IWILL Slocket so you've got no problems there. You may??? just need to flash the BIOS.

the Multipliers on mine go all the way to 155 mhz and there's 8 between 133 and 155. Once you go over the magical 133 however the AGP bus is running wildly out of spec - no 1/2 divider. Not so much the PCI bus cos that's got the 1/4 divider after 133.

Agree with the sentiments about not getting the celly tho. Your paying through the nose for the latest big boy on the block. get a Piii 700/750 and o/c that baby. It'll kick the celly's arse.

Bias

Scann69
04-29-01, 05:00 AM
how the hack did u get the bh6 to have FSB up to 155. mine can only reach 133 and i'm already using the lastest BIOS. want to share your secret?? any idea which online store will sent a P3 to malaysia or which site lets peolpe bid for their CPUs? i may get a better price there.