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Hex
04-26-01, 11:51 AM
My parents bought a computer-in-a-box from Radio Shack a few years ago, and I was hoping to get a little more out of it, seeing as it is a P3 450.
The mobo that came with it is an MSI 6156, and in it's BIOS it has no mention whatsoever about an FPS or clock speed or bus, nor does it have anything to do with voltage or Vcore.
Seeing as I couldn't OC through my bios, I downloaded CPUBoost and FSBsoft and got my 450@463. woohoo
I just would like to know: In these software FSB programs, my speed options are 100(default), 103, 112, 133. My comp can handle 103, but why such a big gap after that to 112?? It can't handle that much.
If I were to install a better mobo, would I be able to be more specific when choosing an FSB? Like more than 4 options????

thank you in advance
P.S. This is a wicked site

marty
04-26-01, 06:37 PM
Did you check to see if the MSI program called Fuzzy Logic works with your motherboard?

It will allow you to increase your core voltage if your board is supported.

spawnfan
04-26-01, 11:39 PM
you my also check mis web site for a new flash bios for your mobo that may help also check
that your cpu temp is not too high.




msi 6153
p3 850@1012 120fsb/1.90v coolermaster h/f 32c
evga geforce2 mx 210/200
kingston 128pc100

spawnfan
04-26-01, 11:40 PM
you my also check mis web site for a new flash bios for your mobo that may help also check
that your cpu temp is not too high.




msi 6153
p3 850@1012 120fsb/1.90v coolermaster h/f 32c
evga geforce2 mx 210/200
kingston 128pc100

outhouse
04-27-01, 12:04 AM
Hex (Apr 26, 2001 11:51 a.m.):
My parents bought a computer-in-a-box from Radio Shack a few years ago, and I was hoping to get a little more out of it, seeing as it is a P3 450.
The mobo that came with it is an MSI 6156, and in it's BIOS it has no mention whatsoever about an FPS or clock speed or bus, nor does it have anything to do with voltage or Vcore.
Seeing as I couldn't OC through my bios, I downloaded CPUBoost and FSBsoft and got my 450@463. woohoo
I just would like to know: In these software FSB programs, my speed options are 100(default), 103, 112, 133. My comp can handle 103, but why such a big gap after that to 112?? It can't handle that much.
If I were to install a better mobo, would I be able to be more specific when choosing an FSB? Like more than 4 options????

thank you in advance
P.S. This is a wicked site


YES a new motherboard will get you most of what your asking and more :) my abit vh-6-2 will let me adjust FSB one at a time. your pc is a hard one to overclock if not impossible thats why your getting such small gains. before buying anything do some reading here at this site and study for a while and you'll end up with a nice PC.

Falkentyne
05-02-01, 10:45 PM
Hex (Apr 26, 2001 11:51 a.m.):
My parents bought a computer-in-a-box from Radio Shack a few years ago, and I was hoping to get a little more out of it, seeing as it is a P3 450.
The mobo that came with it is an MSI 6156, and in it's BIOS it has no mention whatsoever about an FPS or clock speed or bus, nor does it have anything to do with voltage or Vcore.
Seeing as I couldn't OC through my bios, I downloaded CPUBoost and FSBsoft and got my 450@463. woohoo
I just would like to know: In these software FSB programs, my speed options are 100(default), 103, 112, 133. My comp can handle 103, but why such a big gap after that to 112?? It can't handle that much.
If I were to install a better mobo, would I be able to be more specific when choosing an FSB? Like more than 4 options????

thank you in advance
P.S. This is a wicked site


Yes. The FSB speeds that are available are usually dictated by the PLL chip that is included on your motherboard. Newer boards will have far greater FSB choices.....the most recent ones (basically, any board 1 and a half years old or newer) will allow you to set FSB in 1 mhz increments from 90 to 200. (like the Abit BE6-2, BF6, etc). Although not ALL boards allow this.

Keep in mind that a Software FSB program (SoftFSB or CPUFSB--which supports more boards now) may have more speeds available than are listed in the BIOS, *ONLY* if the PLL supports those speeds (there have been a few boards that have little or no control over the FSB in the BIOS, whereas they are actually capable of more)

Most boards made just after that period (Abit BH6 1.1, one of the Soyo SY-xxx boards) that use the W196x PLL have about 32 FSB speeds. But the FSB speeds decrease greatly going back from that point.

Phil
05-03-01, 03:25 PM
I would say it isn't really worth overclocking if you can't get at least a 10% increase, I my self won't bother for less than about 33% a I like to notice the differance and show it off in things other than benchmarks and numbers