anyone still play FFXI?

[El-Scotto]

aye or nay :P

[Krowa 02]

Not I, but I do know alot of people have got into the game, but I think everyone is realizing its crap and the population is dropping like flies.

[El-Scotto]

not really crap one of the better mmos out there :P

[Flashfx2]

I still play, going on about 3 months now.

[El-Scotto]

cool has much changed since the first month of retail? i played for about a month then left cause i could never find a good group :\ thinking of coming back though :P

[poop_loser]

I still play, but I think I may quit. It just isn't much fun anymore

[Biznatch]

Yea i didn't like it either, canceled after a month.

[Flashfx2]

Originally posted by El-Scotto
cool has much changed since the first month of retail? i played for about a month then left cause i could never find a good group :\ thinking of coming back though :P


I know they are going to be adding PvP soon. Not many details that I have heard on how it will work though. As far as finding parties, take an active roll in finding a party. Ask the leaders of parties in the area if you can join them and ask people without their invite flag up if they would be interested in a party. I rarely have to wait more then 10 minutes for a party.

[El-Scotto]

I had no problem finding parties as i was a whm, i just couldnt find one with smart players that wouldnt get us all killed :\

[Flashfx2]

hehe, what level where you when that happened? It gets better as you get leveled higher because people have had more experience.

[Ryanzbane]

quit after a month

[El-Scotto]

geeeeeze i forget what level i was but i hunted at dunes near sandoria...mid teens perhaps i dunno :P

[Banyan]

just like with eve all mmog's start out a bit shakey i think.

[Amino]

I'm sorry, but I have to say something here...

What did I tell you guys? What did I tell you? I told you FFXI wasn't going to be good. I got flamed. Then I bought it to see if I was right and I was. Japanese and Koreans are all complaning now about how Americans ruined the game. Wasn't PVP supposed to be introduced in January?

Jeez, and then there was that one guy that kept trying to defend the game. He kept trying to find reasons to play it, even though I would point out how every reason he gave me was actually bad! I couldn't stand playing more than 20 minutes of the game. The animations looked so stupid, especially the elves with their giraffe necks, then you have male super models and little fuzzy creatures running all over the place. How can people play a game like that? I don't know.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again. FFXI is the WORST MMO EVER MADE. Everyone who plays it knows that it sucks, but keeps playing it because they just don't want to let it go. I even read a review in a magazine about it in which I could tell from what the writer was writing that he really didn't like the game, but he was just trying to find some redeeming qualities in it because it's a Final Fantasy game. "Trying" to find them... Just like that guy who was trying to defend the game here on OCforums.

The game sucks. Stop playing it and wasting your money. Just wait for Lineage II to come out and play that. At least in that game, you have male AND female supermodels running around.

[El-Scotto]

when is lineage due out?

[OC Noob]

Originally posted by Amino
I'm sorry, but I have to say something here...

What did I tell you guys? What did I tell you? I told you FFXI wasn't going to be good. I got flamed. Then I bought it to see if I was right and I was. Japanese and Koreans are all complaning now about how Americans ruined the game. Wasn't PVP supposed to be introduced in January?

Jeez, and then there was that one guy that kept trying to defend the game. He kept trying to find reasons to play it, even though I would point out how every reason he gave me was actually bad! I couldn't stand playing more than 20 minutes of the game. The animations looked so stupid, especially the elves with their giraffe necks, then you have male super models and little fuzzy creatures running all over the place. How can people play a game like that? I don't know.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again. FFXI is the WORST MMO EVER MADE. Everyone who plays it knows that it sucks, but keeps playing it because they just don't want to let it go. I even read a review in a magazine about it in which I could tell from what the writer was writing that he really didn't like the game, but he was just trying to find some redeeming qualities in it because it's a Final Fantasy game. "Trying" to find them... Just like that guy who was trying to defend the game here on OCforums.

The game sucks. Stop playing it and wasting your money. Just wait for Lineage II to come out and play that. At least in that game, you have male AND female supermodels running around.

O/T I'm going to steal part of your sig. Hopefully it isn't trademarked:D

[gravitywell]

I still activly play, I even bought it after being swayed against it by another OC'er (:p). I'm having a lot of fun with it. There is always something to do, I've never had to "wait around for hours" for a group. I'm level 27 now, working on getting 30 and then my advanced jobs.

I definatly reccommend this to anyone with even a little patience.

[El-Scotto]

well like i said, i never had a problem getting a group being a white mage and all, but sadly i just grouped with idiots that would end up getting me killed. they should introduce something to show how many times ppl died that way it might be easier to avoid them :P

[Flashfx2]

Groups in the teens are iffy. Once you hit 20ish things seem to get better. If you decide to pick it up again, try and form your own parties with people who have subjobs or better yet advanced jobs. Then you know they have a fair amount of experience. My highest job is 31 and very rarely do i get in a crap party where people don't play their role properly.

[eli]

I played the game for a week. Maybe it's the fact i don't like MMORPGs at all, but the game was just too slow and felt so bloated. This was my first MMORPG, and I can honestly say i'll never go back to it. I gave it to my brother along with my account.

[Banyan]

wtf, there is no pvp? what is the point of playing a mmog then?

[Ge|atinousFury]

I loved the game. Still do. Played so much for a bit over a month that my homework was suffering so I had to sell it. I don't think the game population is dwindling too much.....I saw on www.playonline.com that the FFXI population just broke 1,000,000 players.

[NewbiePerson]

ditched the game after getting to lvl 10. You can control the very easily, I can eat a sandwitch while playing. (my gosh I did so much running even the flash would cringe) and its extremly slow going to level up. It's sorta ok as in theres a lot you can do chat, buy stuff, mini quests, but your not going to be setting on the edge of your chair more like slouched down running along on the verge of sleep only to curse every few hours or so because you died and lost exp.

[gravitywell]

I'm not sure exactly what FFXI you guys were playing.....but I leveled to 14 is the zone just outside of my home town...

No story line? Then you must not be fulfilling your home town given Missions. There is something about fighting off a black dragon that was controlled by "The Dark Lord" that was a bit exciting for me.

I'm don't think half of the "I played this for 1.233 minutes and it was teh suck!" people understand....this is a new MMORPG, hell, even Everquest was "boring" and "uneventful" when it started. I can't think of an MMORPG that was always "edge of your seat" exciting.

As for their improvements? They've already upped the level cap to 75, they've added more missions. They've dropped the chocobo riding level to 15. They've added HUNDREDS of items and dozens of new quests at all levels. They've implemented weapon skill quests among others.

They may not be "the best" right now, but things like that, take time. Have any of you conveyed your feelings to SquareEnix? Given them a reason why you quit? Or did you just "eh, this is dumb *click cancel*".
It's all about feedback.

[El-Scotto]

hehehe what server you on?

[gravitywell]

Bahamut, level 27thf / 12 warrior, future Ranger/ninja

[El-Scotto]

ahhh darn i was on kujata....still undecided between FFXI, SWG or AC1 so many choices *sigh*

[esau]

Cerberus

58 THF / 28 NIN / 11 WAR / 10 BST / 8 WHM / 4 SAM / 2 RNG


all i do is play. i love this game. finished getting all my AF the other day, going to fight the shadowlord tonight i think. excellent game, excellent support, the good times never stop.



and amino( you jackass ) i was 'that guy', and your arguments were lame and hardly justified you writing in huge red letters 'dont buy this game' and claiming it to be the worst mmorpg ever.

[ViewtifulMonkey]

I am planing to get this game tonight :)

[ViewtifulMonkey]

got the game to work, anyone want to play?

[Flashfx2]

If you want i can get you a worldpass on slyph. Although, I don't plan on starting a job over anytime soon so we probably wouldn't be able to party together...

[YellowDart]

esau: Cut the name calling dood... it be against teh forum rewlz.

/me still wonders what all the fuxxorz is so wonderful about mmorpgs...

I thought about trying this one, but I've heard a LOT of mixed comments about this one. I think I'll prolly wait until LineageII or WOW comes out to give an MMO a whirl. By that time, I should hopefully have more money to blow on games. ;)

BTW: Scotto - quit playing FF:XI and come to Halo practice! :D :p

[Amino]

Originally posted by El-Scotto
ahhh darn i was on kujata....still undecided between FFXI, SWG or AC1 so many choices *sigh*

How about D. None of the above? Get Lineage 2!!!

[El-Scotto]

hahaha no worries Yellow always time for halo cept like the last week :P ive been getting owned by school, work and other stuff :\

whens lineage comin out i know its in beta now

[YellowDart]

Originally posted by El-Scotto
hahaha no worries Yellow always time for halo cept like the last week :P ive been getting owned by school, work and other stuff :\

whens lineage comin out i know its in beta now

Understandable bro! :D School == suxxorz atm.

I'm not sure of the release date of Lineage II... looks pretty sweet though. Did joo see that SpeeDj's been accepted to the beta???

[Nukemall]

Yep ditched the game after month 1. I was a 21 or 22 WHM and even i couldent find a party (even tho there was never more then 1 or 2 whm in my level range on at any given time). The problem was finding party members that werent idiots as the people that had some sense just zoomed past me. Also i found the economy and the tradecraft system very lacking, i always love to make money on the markets and become good at tradecraft with that money but FFXI just didnt offer enough to keep me interested, and a lot of the items werent balanced well (cost of production vs sell price) . That might have chaneged some after month 1 and at the high levles but i wasnt interested enough to keep playing. Another thing that ****ed me off was the inability to speak with 1/2 or more of the server populus. Because there were a lot of japanese that didnt speak english and the translator was sorely lacking (as in unusable) you couldent even have the simplest converstaion.

[El-Scotto]

bah to him lol i hope i get into WoW beta :P

[Miknow]

Oh man this game sucks. I am a active MMORPG player = DAOC, Everquest, AC2 an I got to admit FFXI was the worst MMORPG I have played. I bought 2 copies of FFXI and stopped playing after 1 week really. I wish I could sell these they just sit here I wasted $100

[gravitywell]

Originally posted by Miknow
Oh man this game sucks. I am a active MMORPG player = DAOC, Everquest, AC2 an I got to admit FFXI was the worst MMORPG I have played. I bought 2 copies of FFXI and stopped playing after 1 week really. I wish I could sell these they just sit here I wasted $100


Why exactly does it "suck?"



Re: Market

Any tradeskill you get up to level 20, will net you double whatever you put into it at least. I have level 0 in all tradeskills. I go and hack up some trees for lumber, drop elm logs onto the Auction house and sell them for 2k a piece, a piece! Subtracting the cost of pickaxes from my total income on a logging run, the lowest I've had was 6k profit. The most I've made was just under 30k. It takes all of an hour or so to make a run.

I'm not an advocate, or even trying to convince you, I'm just trying to figure out what "This game sucks" means.

I still don't understand why so many people had trouble getting into parties. A level 22 white mage never has trouble getting into a party, unless you're in the wrong zone. Parties literally argue over white mages.

And as for the japanese players....they are the best people in the world. They're nice, kind, and generous, even if we can't fully understand each other. The translator is an amzing tool if you know how to use it properly. I've held limited conversations with a japanese player that helped me do my advanced job quest, we're great friends now, grouping together often.

I like the game, I enjoy playing it. But I'd still like to know what "Sucks".

[Amino]

Originally posted by YellowDart


Did joo see that SpeeDj's been accepted to the beta???

I just got in last night! :D




Originally posted by gravitywell



Why exactly does it "suck?"



Re: Market

Any tradeskill you get up to level 20, will net you double whatever you put into it at least. I have level 0 in all tradeskills. I go and hack up some trees for lumber, drop elm logs onto the Auction house and sell them for 2k a piece, a piece! Subtracting the cost of pickaxes from my total income on a logging run, the lowest I've had was 6k profit. The most I've made was just under 30k. It takes all of an hour or so to make a run.

I'm not an advocate, or even trying to convince you, I'm just trying to figure out what "This game sucks" means.

I still don't understand why so many people had trouble getting into parties. A level 22 white mage never has trouble getting into a party, unless you're in the wrong zone. Parties literally argue over white mages.

And as for the japanese players....they are the best people in the world. They're nice, kind, and generous, even if we can't fully understand each other. The translator is an amzing tool if you know how to use it properly. I've held limited conversations with a japanese player that helped me do my advanced job quest, we're great friends now, grouping together often.

I like the game, I enjoy playing it. But I'd still like to know what "Sucks".

Dude, read this thread here: why the games sucks. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=241768&highlight=final+fantasy+sucks)

if you don't want to read all 317 posts about why the game sucks, I'll sum it up for you right here. The game is pretty much AOL, with an FF game strapped to it. The sign up process took me almost 3 hours to complete because I had to sign up for like 3 accounts to random things. An email address, a screen name for an IM client and then the game. First off, why do I need another email address and another IM client? People who defended the game said it was a "place for people to meet. It was a common ground for all FFXI players!" Dude, the GAME is cthe common ground!!! The GAME is where you meet!!! Why do I have to load my computer with some garbage japanese IMer and email program in order to play the damn game?

Anyways, 3 hours after buying the game, I finally get done signing up for it. I think "It's about damn time I get to play!!! Jesus!" But oooooooh no. No no no. Getting to play is what I would have LIKED to do, but FFXI doesn't care about what Americans like. Most of us red blooded americans like to give our credit card info, name and address, and then start playing.

With FFXI, you put in your CC info, name, address, and a number of other things in to sign up for the game. Then you have to patch the game even though it just game out that day. Then you have to put in your name address and other info for your email account (which you don't need) and the again for the IM client (which you also don't need). After all that, you get sent to the most stripped down, least customizable character creation screen I've ever seen. One body type per race, 2 genders for SOME of the races, 2 hair styles and 2 faces. Elves look like giraffes, Human males look like Versace models, Human females look like 15 year old girls in school girl outfits and then there are fuzzy little creatures. So you make yourself a character. Then you watch some intro to the game which pretty much is just some anime for you to try to enjoy and has not much to do with the game, other than the fact that it has some of the races from the game in it. I had to watch it with the video and the audio out of sync as well, so I didn't get to enjoy any of it, regardless.

The anime is over. "FINALLY!!! I GET TO PLAY!!!" No no no. To japanese people, playing the game without craploads of dialog before hand is just crazy talk! You have to wait for the camera to pan across a hall for a while, giving you basically a background on MMORPGs, which you can't skip through. Then you have to watch some prince and a guard talk, which you can't skip either. You can only make it go a little faster by clicking through it, but it doesn't help THAT much because the dialog is soooooo long anyways!!!

Ok. After all that crap, at long last, I'm actually in game. I press the up arrow on my keyboard and nothing happens. I'm like "Why am I not moving forward?" I press W and nothing happens either. I think the same thing again. Then for some odd reason, I hit the 8/Up arrow in the NumPad. I move forward. I'm like "What the...???" In bewilderment, I start moving around with the NumPad. but this isn't just any game. It's FFXI. They don't do things like other games. They want to be different. Rather than having the movement keys be ergonomic, they make them stupid. That's pretty much the only word I could find to describe the layout of the keyboard functions. Other than VERY stupid. Instead of having it be WASD or the arrow keys, they have it as 8462 on the NumPad. 846.... 2!!!!! 2??? Why the hell 2??? Our hands aren't made that way!!! Have they never played a game on the keyboard before??? Why the hell isn't it 846 and 5!!!???And then you can't remap the keys, you can only chage it to a "classic RPG" style layout. They're pretty uch still telling you how to use the keyboard.

Then people who "liked" the game tried to defend it by saying, "Hey, I just use my PS2 controller with a USB adapter and it works fine. I don't need the keyboard other than to speak with it." Ok. You paid 50 dollars for this game, then you want me to spend another 15 on a USB adapter and 25 on a PS2 controller? So that's 90 dollars to play this game, not including the monthly fees.

So after I figure out the retarted control scheme Square chose to torture keyboard users with, I start speaking to people and finding out that they hate the game just as much as I do already. After about 10-20 minutes of playing the game, I'm already to frustrated with the controls and everything else about the game to play it.

Back to EBgames. I scold the salesman about the fact that he's selling trash in a box. He agrees...

And I only played the game for 10-20 minutes.

[Flashfx2]

Sure the install sucks, but you should only have to do that once. If read you read the instructions booklet like you should have, you would have learned that there are two pre-defined keyboard setups. The second one, uses wasd as the movement controls.

And then you can't remap the keys, you can only chage it to a "classic RPG" style layout. They're pretty uch still telling you how to use the keyboard.


Actually, yes you can remap every key I believe.

Basing a game on the long installation, DEFAULT movement controls, and 10-20 minutes of gameplay is quite rediculous. Especially when you tell everybody to avoid it like the plague. And you wonder why esau thinks your crazy?

[Amino]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
Sure the install sucks, but you should only have to do that once. If read you read the instructions booklet like you should have, you would have learned that there are two pre-defined keyboard setups. The second one, uses wasd as the movement controls.



Actually, yes you can remap every key I believe.

Basing a game on the long installation, DEFAULT movement controls, and 10-20 minutes of gameplay is quite rediculous. Especially when you tell everybody to avoid it like the plague.

I'm a very good judge of a game's worth and I'm very picky. Not only that, but A LOT of people here have left the game after a month's worth of playing.

People all try to defend the game by saying how good it looks. Is that all it has? I'm pretty sure it is. They were supposed to implement PvP this january. Did they? I'm pretty sure they didn't. And I read a magazine review where the editor actually went through several days in the life of his character and concluded that the game is "one of the most beautiful games" he's ever played. However, he kept trying to make the game seem better than it was. He mentioned the fact that grouping sucked, player customization sucked, the classes were too ridgid and most of all, that teh japanese and Korean players were complaining about the fact that Americans ruined the game.

Is the game good? No. It's not.

And I did read the instruction manual. But why should I have to? All that needed to be done was enter my CC info, my password and name and boom. I should be in game. There should be an options menu that is easy to find laying out all the keys. In other words, the game is NOT user friendly at all.

And having to buy a controller to enjoy the game is bull as well.

The game sucks because everything that should have made it a good game, made it terrible.

You're saying that after an annoyingly long install, non-user friendliness, crappy character customization, foreign people hating you, no PvP, and fuzzy little creatures running around, you still think it's a good game? Well, if that's true, I commend you. You have a lot of patience, and you don't care much about what makes this particular type of game really a good game. I simply don't like having to spend an 8th of a day trying to get a game to work. Imagine if there were bugs!!!

Anyone I've talked to said the game sucked as well. And even then, why is 10-20 minutes if play time not enough to judge a game? So I didn't get to see every part of the land. So I didn't progress in levels. If so many things that make the game what it is suck, why would I want to spend anymore time in it?


Originally posted by Flashfx2
And you wonder why esau thinks your crazy?

Hey had played it for only a little bit longer than I had when he started praising it. If I can't dog it after playing it for that long, why can people praise it?

[Zigma]

I, LOVE this game. It has a very rough learning curve but Please do not let me put your hopes up. I've been playing since a month came out and i'm lv 43 White mage/21 Summoner along with other jobs that i play to farm etc. This game truly isnt fun if your going to do everything yourself, thats the beauty of linkshells. etc.

You should all check out the dynamis video.


Here is a funny clip of my friend almost dying to a Notorious monster.


http://www.bargroove.com/Guivre%20Massacre.WMV


Keep in mind almost everyone in the clip is level 55+!!

[Flashfx2]

Nice video, What level is that NM? And where can i see the video of the PVP area?

[gravitywell]

Just in response to a very small part of your rant...

The opening movie does deal with the story line. Its the attack on Jeuno when everyone was in an Alliance. Its backround story for the game.

I guess games arent supposed to have backround story, just sitting in a hill in the Frontier Mountains slaying dozens of giants...my apologies.


This kind of reminds me....what "IM" program are you talking about? I dont have any instant messangers installed from FFXI, or Playonline. The playonline "browser" is just a fancy patching utility with email features and game news. I've triple checked my folders...I dont have a FFXI "IM" program at all.

I'm not going to go into this much more, its just a silly rant with no basis. Great, so you're picky and after 10-20 minutes of playtime, I'm sure you experienced everything that FFXI has to offer, granting you permission to condemn it. Sadly, with over a million players, you're vastly outnumbered.

[Zigma]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
Nice video, What level is that NM? And where can i see the video of the PVP area?

No idea, and it aggro's level 75 people.

[Khasra]

Originally posted by Ge|atinousFury
I saw on www.playonline.com that the FFXI population just broke 1,000,000 players.

Pure propaganda, it was one million characters created. I for one, accounted for four of them. Every mule, every AH-playing transfer bot, every dedicated bazaar, etc. etc. counts towards that one million.

The 500,000 registered POL accounts figure is hogwash too, as it doesn't reflect active subscriptions at all. Everyone who has ever bought FFXI is forced to register a POL account, so it only means that 500k copies of the game were sold. I doubt FFXI worldwide subs will even match EQ NA subs.

The bottom line is that S-E hasn't released a *single* meaningful number regarding NA subs. Face it, this game is not doing well over here in the States.


Originally posted by Flashfx2
Actually, yes you can remap every key I believe.


No, you can't. The UI for this game is just horrid.



I'm going to step onto the negative side here. FFXI had a lot of potential, but just didn't have the focus or necessary elements to make it a real player in the NA market. Just as background, I'm a veteran MMORPGer and started on release day on Midgardsormr, eventually getting 4x DRG, 3x THF, 3x BRD as my mains, and 4x fishing and 3x cooking.

The reason I quit FFXI was that the game just seemed like a huge step backwards. Lengthy travel times, the need to have a group to get any meaningful xp accomplished, strict level and class requirements when grouping, inability to communicate with a huge segment of the population, and a de-evolved interface all contribute to an overwhemling sense of concern and disappointment.

There are just so many implementations in this game that are backwards... which I won't even get started on here. Yes, a lot of them (like subpar graphics) are due to being a console port, but that's not a good enough excuse to PC users. And the fish botting... god, the fish botting... too many bad memories of how bots annihilated the gameplay of AC. S-E is simply not willing to stop botting. If you don't believe that fish botting is an issue in FFXI, then you have not seen the depth, magnitude and capability (and popularity) of the scripts available on various websites, both JP and US, dedicated towards botting in FFXI.

When I had a static leveling party, the game was manageable, but without it... you just can't get a pickup group on a regular basis at 40+ if you're not a BRD or WHM or RDM. The JP players won't group with you, so you're stuck with a diminishing US population. I joined one of the larger English-speaking guilds on Midgardsormr, but it was still tough to get groups even as a fully-equipped, mithkabob-eating 4x DRG. Coupled with a lack of confidence in S-E as a developer, I canceled and don't have any intention of returning.

That doesn't mean FFXI didn't have good points. Texture quality is awesome if you use the registry hack to increase texture res (although as I mentioned before, general graphics are pretty lacking in this game). Environments (and general feel) is great, reminiscent of AO. Story is decent, but I didn't find it that good. I heard that the real story doesn't start until you get your Jeuno missions. BCNMs kick ass. But, for me, negatives far outweigh the positives.

[late edit, left out a sentence]

[Flashfx2]

Khasra, how long ago did you play? You can remap every single key on the keyboard, although checking the versio history this feature was added in october.

[Amino]

Originally posted by gravitywell
Great, so you're picky and after 10-20 minutes of playtime, I'm sure you experienced everything that FFXI has to offer, granting you permission to condemn it. Sadly, with over a million players, you're vastly outnumbered.

Once again, if you read that thread that I posted a link to, you'd see that people who played the game for just about as long as I had were praising the game. So...

"Great, so you love it and after 10-20 minutes of playtime, I'm sure you experienced everything that FFXI has to offer, granting you permission to honor it."

And also, like I've said before, why would I want to waste any more time playing the game if I'm already annoyed by it after playing 10-20 minutes?

And honestly, none of you have said anything good about the game either. All you can do is say, "sure, it's got this wrong with it, but it's still a good game worthy of me paying for... Sure the game sucks in the respect and that respect, but that doesn't make it crappy. I can't think of anything that makes it good, but it's still good..."

Even YOU see what's wrong with it, but you brush it aside... FOR WHAT? None of you have said anything good about the trash-in-a-box! Is that because you secretly think the game sucks too? Maybe it's because since you're playing the game and paying for it, you have to defend it, seeing as it's the current MMORPG you like. However, slowly but surely, you're realizing how crappy the game is and how poorly crafted it is.

What does FFXI have? Tell me... because you haven't yet. You've just agreed with me on it's faults.

Here are some examples:

Originally posted by Flashfx2
Sure the install sucks


Originally posted by Zigma
It has a very rough learning curve

Originally posted by poop_loser
I still play, but I think I may quit. It just isn't much fun anymore

Originally posted by Biznatch
Yea i didn't like it either, canceled after a month.

Originally posted by El-Scotto
I had no problem finding parties as i was a whm, i just couldnt find one with smart players that wouldnt get us all killed :\

Originally posted by Ryanzbane
quit after a month




Originally posted by gravitywell
... I'm don't think half of the "I played this for 1.233 minutes and it was teh suck!" people understand....this is a new MMORPG, hell, even Everquest was "boring" and "uneventful" when it started. I can't think of an MMORPG that was always "edge of your seat" exciting.

It's been out for several months now buddy. The game still sucks, and I'm not even playing it. Other people are confirming. And you can't think of any MMORPGs that started out exciting? Ok, let me give you a few. DAoC. UO. Asheron's Call. Those games had story lines, conflict between players, constant PvP, and then with the exception of UO, the other two had awesome quests, group formations, player hierarchies, and many other features I'm too tiered to list. UO, being the first MMO to hit the big time, was perfect until they noobified everything in the game. Nevertheless, it was a good game when it came out and for several years afterward.


Originally posted by gravitywell
As for their improvements? They've already upped the level cap to 75, they've added more missions. They've dropped the chocobo riding level to 15. They've added HUNDREDS of items and dozens of new quests at all levels. They've implemented weapon skill quests among others.

Where's the PvP that was supposed to be here in January?


Originally posted by gravitywell
They may not be "the best" right now, but things like that, take time. Have any of you conveyed your feelings to SquareEnix? Given them a reason why you quit? Or did you just "eh, this is dumb *click cancel*".
It's all about feedback.

Cuz I didn't feel like telling people how to improve their game when other, better games are on the horizon. Why should I wait for Square Enix to fix their sucky game, when I'm playing the Beta of Lineage II and loving it? --- I don't want to give them my feedback. They can keep their little kids game with the fuzzy animals and the riding of giant chickens.

face it, the game sucks and you know it. It may be cool to all those Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! loving Japanese kids across the world, but you guys haven't said anything positive about the game. When people try to defend a game by conceding that it sucks in certain aspects, but then not giving back any positive things about it, that tells you something about that game.

[Khasra]

Originally posted by Flashfx2
Khasra, how long ago did you play? You can remap every single key on the keyboard, although checking the versio history this feature was added in october.

Um, if you've played FFXI at all, then you could simply try to remap your keys. If you did, then you would know that you cannot remap "every single key" on the keyboard.

The patch you mention only allowed users to switch between "full" and "compact" modes and remap a very limited number of keys. You most certainly cannot remap "every single key" - not even close.

[gravitywell]

You can remap the keys on compact mode

[Flashfx2]

Originally posted by Khasra


Um, if you've played FFXI at all, then you could simply try to remap your keys. If you did, then you would know that you cannot remap "every single key" on the keyboard.

The patch you mention only allowed users to switch between "full" and "compact" modes and remap a very limited number of keys. You most certainly cannot remap "every single key" - not even close.

:rolleyes: If your right, could you please explain these screenshots???

screenshot 1 (http://www.ilstu.edu/~ajneuma2/1.jpg)
screenshot 2 (http://www.ilstu.edu/~ajneuma2/2.jpg)

[Khasra]

Please show me any place in those screenshots, where by your own words, "every key can be remapped". Wait, don't bother, because I know you can't.

What gets me is that those screenshots you posted don't even show half the functions you CAN remap. Given that, I cannot fathom how you expect those to show in any way that you can remap every key on the keyboard? Those screenshots prove my argument: Only a limited number of keys and functions can be remapped.

The saddest thing is that you PLAY this game yourself. You can personally, on your own, verify for your own eyes by trying to remap every key on the keyboard to a different function. But you don't want to do that, instead choosing to argue blindly.

In your own words, :rolleyes:

[Amino]

And yall still haven't responded to my comments either...

[ViewtifulMonkey]

i am on Titan server now if any wants to party up.

[Kekkai]

I absolutely love this game and I was one of those people who were hesitating to buy it when that early FFXI bashing thread was created. Oh am I so glad that I jumped on this boat. This game blows away any other game I've played in the last fourteen years and not by a little. By so much that it's in it's own universe. Yes. That is how much I love this game.
I also have tons of EQ friends who played EQ for three years+ that have switched over and say that this is way better than EQ in a lot of ways. But that is our opinion.


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If you didn't like it and quit good for ya, no hard feelings. This game's not for everyone and if it wasn't, I'm glad you quit. I'd rather you be happy in some other game than be a bad viber in mine.

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On a side note: Esau I'm glad to see you still playing. ^^

Send me a tell and say hey if you're on Midgardsormr~ I love meeting new people.

Seance or Jinusean
pal46 brd 44 whm36 war32 blm23 rdm18 thf 15

[ViewtifulMonkey]

yeah many of my friends kept telling me it was not that good but i am SO glad i got it, hehe really addicting with a party

[esau]

sry, but im on cerberus ; ;
good to see we got a few ppl who like the game :rolleyes:

60 THF / 30 NIN right now...... at this point in the game things get really interesting, having so much fun.

im in the first american HNM LS on our server, and recently we've been competing with the HL JP HNM LS's for spawns, tons of fun.

today we killed amemet and got 4 skins dropped!!
thats 1.4 million gil ^^ split 7 ways though ; ;

[Hagakure]

I was an EverQuest Vet (3 years, top tier guild, top ranked Monk on my server, etc) that got sick of the boring never ending raids after all my friends left the game. The game had been boring and tedious for a long time, but as long as I had friend playing (both in-game and real life) it was worth the time I put in…besides at the level I was playing at it was a bit of an ego trip to know I was latterly one of maybe 10 players able to do what I could. Anyways, it got dull and I found myself playing basically alone with a guild full of people I barely knew so I quite.

Anyways I got into the FFXI beta and I was dieing to really get into another MMORPG but ****, I just couldn’t get past the reality that FFXI wasn’t build for American PC gamer. I have no problem with games being localized for Europe or Asian, or hell being developed and published for players in those regions, but (like many gamers from those countries) I can’t stand to have a game pushed on me as though it was made for me when it’s clear it wasn’t. The interface, controls, camera, and just generally everything that made up the game was designed from the ground up to be ideal for someone, obviously not me, and to be honest it was just so damn annoying.

Personally I’m waiting for WoW, hell I’m more excited for the WoW beta than I am about some games that will be sitting on store shelves soon!

[Krowa 02]

Nobody respond to amino, his opinion is useless. He is only looking to fight.

Back on topic, I would give the game another try, if I could get into groups easier, and not be grouped with idiots at the same time I would love the game. Basically what killed the game for me was lack of group, stupid people, and the dungeons or whatever you want to call them were pretty weird.

I really hope the upcomming AC1 expansion really improves the graphics, because I dont like AC1 graphics at all anymore. AC1 is probably the most open ended game when it comes to characters, good game, just never got into it.

Lineage 2 might be good, but I havent played it so I cant say anything. I think those asian mmorpgs are a little weird for my taste, but people from that region love them, so maybe non asians never get sucked in??? My friend is korean and loves the game to no end, he hated previous mmorpgs developed here.

Oh well, ut2k4 is out thats fun enough for now.

[Enemy Down!]

i bought this game a few days ago and it is my first MMORPG. i come from the counter strike, bf1942 background but always wanted to tap into the MMORPG world. i was very hesitant into buying this game because there was no pvp. after playing it for a few days i think it is a good game.

i know pvp is comming out and i hope that it is not restrictive. i would really think it would be cool to have the fear of not only being attacked by monsters, but by other players as well. it would also be cool if pvp can be the determining factor into country/region dominance, where a country's players can attack another country's players with no restrictions. or maybe there can be a special sign up waiver form that allows you to interact with pvp content while interacting with the game's original content.

[Alacritan]

I was thinking of playing. Either that or Lineage II when it came out. Then again, I might even hold out for Anarchy Online 2. I liked that game quite a bit, but it's getting pretty haggard looking in it's old age.

Why don't game manufacturers release upgrade packs 1-2 years down the road so it doesn't look so dated, at least, for MMORPGs? Kinda like the Counter Strike Fusion Pack, just a visual/audio update to keep it decent looking.

[Fignuts]

Seriously, FFXI may have some (or alot) of bad things about it but please, it hasn't even been out for six months. They are gonna fix all tose problems (which they are already working at). And with pvp and new expansions there is plenty to look forward to.

P.S. EQ2 is gonna OWN

[Khasra]

Originally posted by Fignuts
Seriously, FFXI may have some (or alot) of bad things about it but please, it hasn't even been out for six months.

On the contrary, FFXI has been out for almost two years.

[TollPhree]

Im posting becasue that guy is ticking me off.. first off You Canot compare any MMORG to eq and uo .. They were the first of there kinds.. so of corse they Made it! There was nothing else out.. Now there are a bunch of mmorgs out and a bunch more coming in.. so we expect more of corse =D

The best mmorg out there Right now is Ultima Online, and Shadowbane.. Bolth were ruined.. but still best... Ultima had the stupid stupid stupid stupid Doom Added to it making it to eqish for uo.. and shadowbane just .. man I dunno what they did but that game almost made it =( /sad face

Final Fantasy is fun as all heck played it at my friends place.. its Great looking game too.. if you like FF then its fun if you dont, then tis fun.. no pvp sucks so bad OMG! But there adding it in.. so I guess we see.. Will I play FF? Prob not.. id rather wait for Lin2, Wow, or City Of heros(wich should be fun as all heck for at least a few months) Ive played a few mmorgs

Anarkey online, Uo, Eq, DAOC, SWG,Shadowbane, Horizens, darnit I cant remember others..

btw horizens was the worst mmorg out this year if you ask me.. never have I seen a game wtih so much potentiel suck that bad.. shadowbane was bad but at least it was still fun to play.. horizens was like Light Beer... UHH!

SWG Is the worst mmorg of all time.. talk about a dumb premise for a mmorg... omg that game sucks.. towns ugly, the graphics suck if you ask me! The monster spawns suck.. the houses suck.. and I can't get a lightsaber ... at least not yet.. but who cares if I dont know I can get a lightsaber from day one im not playing anymore.. anyway I had a dulist was going bounty hunter quit

Serisily if your looking for a good mmorg to pass your time and you want pvp go buy a cheap Uo account on ebay or try anarcky online its not bad if you can get past graphics.. or if you want a softer game go buy a cheap eq account or make a new one, or try FF11 btw I do Rec eq.. I played for a good amount of time had a 56 pally =) I rocked.. dang I rocked.. I miss him and a nice necro.. that game was ALOT OF FUN so much depth to the game.. but grapics were very tired.. and the dialog got a the lack of horses for people who wern't rich anoyed me to know end.. Not having a million hours a day to farm Plat.. you know it made me unable to own stuff I wanted.. so I just quit sold account for 200bucks


ANYWAY SORRY back to point FF11 is fun.. its goodlooking.. and it has promise.. id give it a 7 of 10.. Horizens would get a 3 of 10 =) that game just sucks.. sorry SWG gets a 1 of 10.. why ? becasue I hate it..

IF ANYONE knows of a good mmorg I didn't list tell me.. but I can't think of one..

WOW looks the best by far.. Lin looks fun good graphics.. but nothing beats birdseye veiw =) sorry i was raised on ultima.. WoW will deliver.. OMG im so stupid I forget Ultima Online 2 game is coming out.. I forget its offial name but that might work.. city of heros will deff be fun.. no pvp.. and expect mcuh depth to the game but should be fun at least =) atm I play none of them.. im still looking for somthing to =) make me happy

[Krowa 02]

Originally posted by Fignuts
Seriously, FFXI may have some (or alot) of bad things about it but please, it hasn't even been out for six months. They are gonna fix all tose problems (which they are already working at). And with pvp and new expansions there is plenty to look forward to.

P.S. EQ2 is gonna OWN

Hey Fignuts, the game came out in Japan almsot 2 years ago. Why do you think theres so many japanese players with uber chars running around.

[Fignuts]

Originally posted by TollPhree
Im posting becasue that guy is ticking me off.. first off You Canot compare any MMORG to eq and uo .. They were the first of there kinds.. so of corse they Made it! There was nothing else out.. Now there are a bunch of mmorgs out and a bunch more coming in.. so we expect more of corse =D

The best mmorg out there Right now is Ultima Online, and Shadowbane.. Bolth were ruined.. but still best... Ultima had the stupid stupid stupid stupid Doom Added to it making it to eqish for uo.. and shadowbane just .. man I dunno what they did but that game almost made it =( /sad face

Final Fantasy is fun as all heck played it at my friends place.. its Great looking game too.. if you like FF then its fun if you dont, then tis fun.. no pvp sucks so bad OMG! But there adding it in.. so I guess we see.. Will I play FF? Prob not.. id rather wait for Lin2, Wow, or City Of heros(wich should be fun as all heck for at least a few months) Ive played a few mmorgs

Anarkey online, Uo, Eq, DAOC, SWG,Shadowbane, Horizens, darnit I cant remember others..

btw horizens was the worst mmorg out this year if you ask me.. never have I seen a game wtih so much potentiel suck that bad.. shadowbane was bad but at least it was still fun to play.. horizens was like Light Beer... UHH!

SWG Is the worst mmorg of all time.. talk about a dumb premise for a mmorg... omg that game sucks.. towns ugly, the graphics suck if you ask me! The monster spawns suck.. the houses suck.. and I can't get a lightsaber ... at least not yet.. but who cares if I dont know I can get a lightsaber from day one im not playing anymore.. anyway I had a dulist was going bounty hunter quit

Serisily if your looking for a good mmorg to pass your time and you want pvp go buy a cheap Uo account on ebay or try anarcky online its not bad if you can get past graphics.. or if you want a softer game go buy a cheap eq account or make a new one, or try FF11 btw I do Rec eq.. I played for a good amount of time had a 56 pally =) I rocked.. dang I rocked.. I miss him and a nice necro.. that game was ALOT OF FUN so much depth to the game.. but grapics were very tired.. and the dialog got a the lack of horses for people who wern't rich anoyed me to know end.. Not having a million hours a day to farm Plat.. you know it made me unable to own stuff I wanted.. so I just quit sold account for 200bucks


ANYWAY SORRY back to point FF11 is fun.. its goodlooking.. and it has promise.. id give it a 7 of 10.. Horizens would get a 3 of 10 =) that game just sucks.. sorry SWG gets a 1 of 10.. why ? becasue I hate it..

IF ANYONE knows of a good mmorg I didn't list tell me.. but I can't think of one..

WOW looks the best by far.. Lin looks fun good graphics.. but nothing beats birdseye veiw =) sorry i was raised on ultima.. WoW will deliver.. OMG im so stupid I forget Ultima Online 2 game is coming out.. I forget its offial name but that might work.. city of heros will deff be fun.. no pvp.. and expect mcuh depth to the game but should be fun at least =) atm I play none of them.. im still looking for somthing to =) make me happy

Its mmorPg u forgot the p:D

whoops forgot about japan release:o

[Burning Phoenix]

I was thinking about picking up this game so i went to a few stores in the local mall today. Not one has it in stock. They told me this game sells quickly and can't keep it on the shelves. The one store person believes this game is due for a big come back soon. Soon as my CC payment gets paid up i may try it out. Most probably!

[El-Scotto]

it wasnt too bad, prolly a little better now than when i first started up, its pretty stable but now im hooked on SWG i may return to FFXI sometime :P

[Turbage]

Maybe its the fact that this game was my first MMORPG, but I could never really get into it.

I am a level 10 Warrior on Caitsith, and it is really getting me down, because even the weakest enemies decide to kill me.

For example, I was running around La Theine Plateau, and I see a Steppe Hare. The game says its "a decent challenge". I look around for orcs or goblins, and see none. I attack. It was going good, until it decided to blind me. After it blinded me, it ceaselessly beat on me, and then another creature moseyed up on the hill, another Steppe Hare, linked with my current enemy, and beat the ***** outta me.

So, /autorun. But, they still decide to attack me, even from 20 feet away. Now I am at 4 health. In front of me are a Goblin Tinkerer (I think thats what It was) and an Orcish Fodder. BOTH somehow saw or heard me, linked, and killed me. 4 days worth of exp GONE.

F'ing rabbits.

Not to mention, I get an ASTOUNDING 10 FPS on this game.

I'm thinking about tossing in the towel on this crock of *****.

[esau]

lol, 4 days of xp gone at lvl 10????

no chance....


i had a lvl 60 thf, and i could get 30k xp for the next lvl in less than 4 days


solo to 10, then join partys


orcs and gobs link by sight
the art of avoiding aggro is indeed an important skill^^

dont give up...it gets way better as you progress imo

[Burning Phoenix]

Man i'm totally addicted to this game. The second day i started at around 6PM then stayed up all night until 12 noon the next day when i finally went to sleep. 18 hours of game play!

[ViewtifulMonkey]

:) yeah i play this too much now hehe

[TollPhree]

FF11 isnt bad.. just not that great if ya ask me =)
I dont see any really good mmorgs coming out except for eq2 (wich is not eq) its being made for people who dont like eq .. becasue like they said they dont want to loose there own people.

[Kekkai]

Many who try this game are discouraged by the very steep learning curve. You have to delve in forums, read how to play your job effectively, but dang you'll get over it like most people do. Yea, I have days when I get a headache from leveling for six hours straight, but the friends I've made in this game are what make it so much fun for me now.

Seance [retired] Brd44 whm36 blm23 rdm18 thf15
Jinusean Paladin55 war32 whm17 thf15 blm12

Hehe it's okay if you didn't like this game. There's plenty of good people here on Midgardsormr that I've grown to love. And the population keeps growing and growing.

^^ can't wait till I finish midterms... ay

[Kekkai]

(/cheer)s everyone, hope you guys are having as much fun as I am.

By the way.

Anyone else on Midgard?

[resoluteK]

This thread is pretty ridiculous.. I mean if you don't like playing the game and don't want to put time/money into it - don't.

Anyway, I just starting playing and I'm crazy hooked. I'm a lvl15 Galka MNK on Ramuh. I guess my only complaint is the overabundance of stupid people around my level at this point in time.. but people being stupid isn't really the game's fault.

[topslop1]

I played it for about a month and bitched the entire time that I was playing it. It did absolutley nothing for me. I was brought up with my first love for MMOS with Ultima Online. This game was just about everything that UO wasn't. No free player killing was the biggest turn off for me. No kill, no dice.

The game is essentially a barney land and you're invited to party with other people to kill monsters. - BORING.

[gtsimmo]

I been playing for a few months. Right now my character is level 58 paladin so Im a pretty high level. I came from playing SWG for about a year and I can tell you FF XI is way different and im my opinion a better game. I had a friend from star wars try Lineage II and he quit that after a month and joined me in Final Fantasy. I love all the quest, missions and content. The game has tons of things for you to do, it's just up to you to decide rather to do them or not. A lot of the quest are a pain in the rear end and take a lot of time but it's rewarding. The thing that ruins the game most if all the newbs you'll encounter up to about about lvl 30, then the group dymanics changes dramatically. A lot of the more rewarding quest are at higher level too.

Anyhow the games a slow start, I didnt enjoy it much myself for about the first 13 level of warrior, but after i found myself in some pretty good parties things shaped up.

[Khasra]

I came from playing SWG for about a year and I can tell you FF XI is way different and im my opinion a better game.

Using SWG as your measuring stick, you'll barely find a MMORPG you won't like. :confused:

[El-Scotto]

even tho they are both MMOs they are completly different they both have their ups and downs