PIII800EB @ 1002mhz...........

[H@rdc0re]

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not bad huh?
This is done with a Gorb and 2x80mm fans , I have a winfop38 coming so maybe with that it may go higher.

cyas

[William]

wow! Not bad at all. Doubt you will get too much faster, you are hitting the wall of the PIII .18 architecture.

[Mr B]

DAYUM !!! WTG !!!

I've got a P/// 600E (same 6x multi), and I dream of 167 FSB !!!

Congrats on an awesome o/c!!

With a gorb, no less, for cryin' out loud!

Mr B

[Door Knob]

Nice. I had a chrome orb on the same chip and was able to get to 1020 stable. I got an alpha and can do 1050 stable. I have had it at 1.1 gig but it wasn't stable at all. The fop will deffinatly get you higher. I am going water in the summer and hope to get 1.1 stable. I say we stick it to all those 700E guys and show em that the 800eb might just be the most potent of the p3's :).

[[OC]_SR20DE]

I think both KingPin and Door Knob had gotten God given gift EB chip. Consider yourselves lucky. You guys will have the highest memory throughput performance especially in the gaming. If there are many 800EB's can do such as this, we all ought to go after these chips! congrats ya.

[H@rdc0re]

Cheers dudes , I have always been quite lucky with getting good cpu chips , my last pc was a PIII550 @ 800mhz and that was rock solid with just a stock hsf and a 120mm fan mounted in the side of the case blowing directly on to the cpu.
Must have good luck I say.

cyas

[MAV]

WTG kingpin, my PIII 800E @ 900, have pushed to 1070, with standard heatsink and fan, standard voltage at 1.7v, but not stable, i think i could get it stable by investing in some decent cooling and upping the voltage.
regards

[o770]

i have a retail version of the 800EB and both SiSoft Sandra and ASUS PC Probe relates it can go up to 1200MHz. maybe most of the 800EB with well effective cooling can get there.

[anvil]

oTTO,

By saying that Sandra states that the processor is capable of 1200 mhz, are you referring to the "Performance Rating" in the "CPU Benchmark" program module? Or is that capability given in some other part of the program?

I've seen people mention this before and have not known where they are finding the projected speed estimate in Sandra.

anvil

[[OC]_SR20DE]

oTTO (May 09, 2001 09:33 a.m.):
i have a retail version of the 800EB and both SiSoft Sandra and ASUS PC Probe relates it can go up to 1200MHz. maybe most of the 800EB with well effective cooling can get there.


Hehehehe..... ok now you are pushing it. . 1200mhz?.. hehe... 200mhzFSB?? hehe.... =0

BTW, yes anvil I think he was talking about mhz going upto 1200mhz in Perfomance Rating in the Sandra and I think this is quite unrealistic to run it that high in real world.

[Door Knob]

oTTO (May 09, 2001 09:33 a.m.):
i have a retail version of the 800EB and both SiSoft Sandra and ASUS PC Probe relates it can go up to 1200MHz. maybe most of the 800EB with well effective cooling can get there.

Verry few p3 cCO chips will ever go to 1.2 ghz. There archtecture limits them to around 1.13 (the T chip intel pulled from the shelves) in most cases no matter the cooling. Thats why people love the 700E. It gives you the highest fsb at the "barrier", making it faster than a 1ghz E. The cDO are rummered to go higher but I haven't seen enough results to really say for sure.

[H@rdc0re]

Door Knob (May 09, 2001 04:53 p.m.):

Verry few p3 cCO chips will ever go to 1.2 ghz. There archtecture limits them to around 1.13 (the T chip intel pulled from the shelves) in most cases no matter the cooling. Thats why people love the 700E. It gives you the highest fsb at the "barrier", making it faster than a 1ghz E. The cDO are rummered to go higher but I haven't seen enough results to really say for sure.

Well if the "barrier" is 142mhz fsb then how can I get to 167???

I thoughth there was no barrier and you can go as high as cooling and voltage would allow??

[Door Knob]

1ghzScreamer (May 09, 2001 05:13 p.m.):
Well if the "barrier" is 142mhz fsb then how can I get to 167???

I thoughth there was no barrier and you can go as high as cooling and voltage would allow??

The "barrier" is just an average. Some chips will go above it, others won't reach it. It depends on the chip. What processor do you have?

[gdog]

check the cpu database there are loads of p3 above 1200.

[Door Knob]

gdog (May 09, 2001 06:36 p.m.):
check the cpu database there are loads of p3 above 1200.

Loads? I counted 10. Only one of which was not a 1gig chip. And I doubt the stabability of many of those setups. I said average chip, not all. But 10 out of hundreds of chips on the database is not what I would call good odds.

[anvil]

Kingpin,

I'm not familiar with the display info, so does your memory run 2-2-2 at 167 fsb, or not?

That's pretty critical to overall performance with all these high fsb speeds isn't it?

anvil

[gdog]

we arent talkin about odds here.We are talkin facts.
The fact is that the p3 core is capable of going above 1200mhz, in fact well above it with extreme cooling.

[o770]

anvil (May 09, 2001 02:17 p.m.):
oTTO,

By saying that Sandra states that the processor is capable of 1200 mhz, are you referring to the "Performance Rating" in the "CPU Benchmark" program module? Or is that capability given in some other part of the program?

I've seen people mention this before and have not known where they are finding the projected speed estimate in Sandra.

anvil

no, im not.

even so im surely wrong at least on what i said. PCProbe is also a diagnostic tool which comes along with asus motherboards. In the processor tab it says the max supported speed is 1200MHz, right the line under the processor orig speed but, that means max supported speed by the mainboard zif socket i guess - but if it was that in fact the information should be in the mainboard section, not the processor one (but now its difficult to know once my zif socket actually supports pentium iii max to 1.2GHz). Sandra relates not the 1200MHz on CPU&BIOS Info but in Model Information, after some other specifications it says "(...)500-1.13G..". i can now understand it as the whole range of the pentium iii or the estimated possible frequencies mine can support(?).

[o770]

anvil (May 09, 2001 02:17 p.m.):
oTTO,

By saying that Sandra states that the processor is capable of 1200 mhz, are you referring to the "Performance Rating" in the "CPU Benchmark" program module? Or is that capability given in some other part of the program?

I've seen people mention this before and have not known where they are finding the projected speed estimate in Sandra.

anvil

no, im not.

even so im surely wrong at least on what i said. PCProbe is also a diagnostic tool which comes along with asus motherboards. In the processor tab it says the max supported speed is 1200MHz, right the line under the processor orig speed but, that means max supported speed by the mainboard zif socket i guess - but if it was that in fact the information should be in the mainboard section, not the processor one (but now its difficult to know once my zif socket actually supports pentium iii max to 1.2GHz). Sandra relates not the 1200MHz on CPU&BIOS Info but in Model Information, after some other specifications it says "(...)500-1.13G..". i can now understand it as the whole range of the pentium iii or the estimated possible frequencies mine can support(?).

[anvil]

oTTO,

Thank you for clarifying that point.

I still wonder what the "Performance Rating" means in Sandra?



anvil

[Door Knob]

gdog (May 09, 2001 07:50 p.m.):
we arent talkin about odds here.We are talkin facts.
The fact is that the p3 core is capable of going above 1200mhz, in fact well above it with extreme cooling.

It appears you may have misunderstood my original post. I never said all, I said most. I was talking about odds. It is capable in ideal circumstances, however most chips are not ideal. I said the p3 1.13ghz were pulled from the shelves because some would not run stable.

It is too bad the original content of this thread was lost. I was simply saying that his 800EB would never see be able to see 1.2ghz.

[o770]

anvil (May 09, 2001 10:24 p.m.):
oTTO,

Thank you for clarifying that point.

I still wonder what the "Performance Rating" means in Sandra?



anvil

anvil, from my experience with SiSoft SANDRA the CPU benchmarks r supposed only to rate the CPU tested. it will check for the features the CPU is capable to "process" as the SSE and SSE2 or the MMX technology.. it will check for how the CPU can perform every single feature and generate rating numbers for the comparison with other listed ones - all other listed CPUs have been tested by the same benchmarks.
we can also use the benchmarks for the burn-in tests..

[[OC]_SR20DE]

Door Knob (May 09, 2001 11:57 p.m.):
gdog (May 09, 2001 07:50 p.m.):
we arent talkin about odds here.We are talkin facts.
The fact is that the p3 core is capable of going above 1200mhz, in fact well above it with extreme cooling.

It appears you may have misunderstood my original post. I never said all, I said most. I was talking about odds. It is capable in ideal circumstances, however most chips are not ideal. I said the p3 1.13ghz were pulled from the shelves because some would not run stable.

It is too bad the original content of this thread was lost. I was simply saying that his 800EB would never see be able to see 1.2ghz.

Yepp.. Door Knob is right.

Gdog, you said that the P3 core is capable of 1200mhz.. that sounds way too broad and sounds like any P3 cores including cA0s and cA2s do 1.2Ghz real easy, LOL. it's not specific. What type of CPU P3 are you talking about?? huh?huh? You should've said it this way instead... " Very very mighty few P3 cC0s can reach or surpass mighty 1200mhz" That is more like it. I feel I see the bright side of those cD0's doing 1.2Ghz or higher what makes better sense. hehehe..

[[OC]_SR20DE]

1GhzScreamer, quoted

Well if the "barrier" is 142mhz fsb then how can I get to 167???

I thoughth there was no barrier and you can go as high as cooling and voltage would allow??


Door Knob was talking about barrier in terms overal system clockspeed called in mhz. When we say "barrier" or "limit" in overclocking the chips, we are not talking about FSB mhz, it is the total mhz of the system. i.e. 1130mhz on a P3 for example. In your case, approx 1000mhz might be the barrier or maybe you could go higher?? maybe....

[gdog]

Well seeing as tho the thread is about a p3800eb (cCo there i said it) i thought u would know.
Im not saying that all p3 cco's will reach 1200, im not even saying a minority will, im just saying that "some" will, and that is a fact.Some have and most havent.So the core is not limited at 1.13.Its just that Intel needed to be more, erm forceful with the cooling :D.
And anyways there is gunna be a p3 1.2 i beleive.Probably on the new stepping tho.

[Door Knob]

gdog (May 10, 2001 07:14 p.m.):
Well seeing as tho the thread is about a p3800eb (cCo there i said it) i thought u would know.
Im not saying that all p3 cco's will reach 1200, im not even saying a minority will, im just saying that "some" will, and that is a fact.Some have and most havent.So the core is not limited at 1.13.Its just that Intel needed to be more, erm forceful with the cooling :D.
And anyways there is gunna be a p3 1.2 i beleive.Probably on the new stepping tho.

Intel is not going to be releasing any socket 370 P3's higher than 1 gig. They are creating a new chip design for p3's higher than 1 gig that will not be compatible with socket 370 motherboards.

[gdog]

so they released a new stepping for nothing??Thats not clever.

[CELL]

PIII800E@1000mhz CCO 1.7v SL4CE COSTA RICA
PAL6035/DELTA/AS2/PVC MOD DUCT

[6502kid]

I would imagine another major barrier to running with the FSB
any higher than 160+ would be the PCI and AGP dividers.

Unless there are some new boards I am not aware of out there
with 1/5 and 1/3 divider settings.....

Nice OC at 1002. Blows mine away.......

[Blue Jester_2112]

"I had a chrome orb on the same chip and was able to get to 1020 stable. I got an alpha and can do 1050 stable. "---Door Knob

LOL! That's one thing I like about this site, no one is ever satisfied. He spent the money to get an Alpha just to squeeze out an extra 30mhz. I'm both impressed and inspired, I think I might get me one and see much blood I can get from this stone here. =]