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FrankMasterFlash
05-12-01, 11:48 PM
Does anyone know what the 4 bigger holes surrounding the ASUS Slotket are used for?
[img="http://www.asus.com/products/Motherboard/Pentiumpro/S370/s370full.jpg"]
WillysNut
05-13-01, 01:18 AM
Um...just a guess...Big Ass AfterMarket Coolers. No really. Don't know but I would guess that the holes are for either mounting a "traditional" slot type cooler or just there really to make it easier to add cooling. Can anyone verify this?
Just dug out the intel (OEM) hsf from my P///, and have my Celeron 600/Soltek slocket in front of me as well.
Those holes are spread further apart than the mount spacing for a P/// hsf, and looks to be for the P II (SECC 1) as well.
I'd be inclined to say they are for mounting a hsf to the slocket, but what type, I don't know. (just dug old C300A out of closet, as well) Those holes don't conform to the spacing of either the SECC or SECC2.
I know what they're not...
Mr B
those holes are on all new mobos from amd and intel they are for mounting the next generation of coolers. E.G. BIG KICK ASS ONES!!!!!!
there in the same place as SECC 2 fc-pga pentium 3's I beleive, slightly further out than on the slot one celeron,p2 and katmai p3
Phil (May 13, 2001 05:30 p.m.):
there in the same place as SECC 2 fc-pga pentium 3's I beleive, slightly further out than on the slot one celeron,p2 and katmai p3
Um, Phil...how can a chip be BOTH SECC2 (Single Edge Cartridge Connector) and FC-PGA (flip chip) at the same time???
I have a slocket sitting in front of me, as well as a P/// intel slot 1 hsf.
The "gauge" I used for an eyeball comparison, is the s370 zif socket, as pictured above, and on the Soltek slocket in front of me here. The s370 zif socket is not going to change in size from one to the other, right? There's my baseline. See how far away from the s370 the holes are in the pic above?? The holes for the P/// hsf mounts would be right against the sides of the socket. Therefore, they don't line up with the P/// holes. The SECC slot 1 Celeron/P II has a WIDER (than the P///) mount hole spacing. I have a Slot 1 Celeron 300A sitting in front of me as well, and those holes wouldn't line up with the Asus slocket, either. The holes in the Asus are ever further apart than the SECC (Celeron/P II) mount holes.
I don't know what hsf would utilize these holes, but it ISN'T a SECC or SECC2 intel unit. The spacing just doesn't line up.
Mr B
Mr B (May 13, 2001 06:39 p.m.):
Um, Phil...how can a chip be BOTH SECC2 (Single Edge Cartridge Connector) and FC-PGA (flip chip) at the same time???
Mr B
Flip chip just means that the cpu die is on the upside of the cpu substrate, and the SECC 2 Coppermines are still flip chips as if you look at them the chip core is top side, I did say fc-pga by accident and the pga means pin grid array should have said FC-SECC I guess.
Phil (May 13, 2001 07:01 p.m.):
Mr B (May 13, 2001 06:39 p.m.):
Um, Phil...how can a chip be BOTH SECC2 (Single Edge Cartridge Connector) and FC-PGA (flip chip) at the same time???
Mr B
Flip chip just means that the cpu die is on the upside of the cpu substrate, and the SECC 2 Coppermines are still flip chips as if you look at them the chip core is top side, I did say fc-pga by accident and the pga means pin grid array should have said FC-SECC I guess.
True enough. Both are literally "flip chips". I'd just never seen anyone use that name in conjunction with the SECC2 version of the P///. I thought only the FC-PGA type was ever really referred to as "flip chip", as intel uses that term only on the FC-PGA packaging.
Mr B
I suppose it's just easier to say coppermine secc2 but I felt like being difficult!
ok i dont know very much but aint those holes to fit a hsf? All P4 and socketA mobos have holes like that to put really big hsf in. Check out:
http://www.swiftnets.com/MC462.htm
What a sweet thing! I wanted one of those, then i found out they gotta be mounted in them holes, and since my slotket has no holes me cant use one... *sob*
FrankMasterFlash
05-14-01, 09:44 PM
I found out the holes are too spread out to fit a slot HSF without some modification to the heatsink. It looked like it might fight a MC462 but I would not want a 1.5lb block on my slotket on some plastic clamps holding the slotket down to the MB
I already have a PEP66 and its good enough for me.
I always thought that the MC462 could only be used on Socket A boards.
Wunder (May 14, 2001 07:26 p.m.):
ok i dont know very much but aint those holes to fit a hsf? All P4 and socketA mobos have holes like that to put really big hsf in. Check out:
http://www.swiftnets.com/MC462.htm
What a sweet thing! I wanted one of those, then i found out they gotta be mounted in them holes, and since my slotket has no holes me cant use one... *sob*
That looks like it would be pretty close to the same hole spacing as the Asus pictured above.....
Mr B
Is this Asus slotket good, in comparison to others... I want to OC a CII 633 and this is the easiest to get here. My motherboard won't even post @950 default voltage. The Asus seems the most available one.
FrankMasterFlash
05-15-01, 03:50 PM
Innoka (May 15, 2001 04:30 a.m.):
Is this Asus slotket good, in comparison to others... I want to OC a CII 633 and this is the easiest to get here. My motherboard won't even post @950 default voltage. The Asus seems the most available one.
It has worked quie well for me. I have not tested it above 112mhz bus. To get your CPU to 950 you will need a voltage increase but not above 2volts. Asus products are also quite reliable.
on amd boards the hole for heatsinks are about 80mm apart, not sure about the p4, these holes are about 100mm apart I think, it is possible to fit secc2 heatsinks to it, I know of someone who had a VOS 32+ on his
SocketA and P4 should have their holes on the same places. Aparently its some new standard. I guess the processor, mobo and hsf manufacturers have understood that them plastic clips on the zif-sockets are too weak to carry future hsf. I am yet to see a P3 mobo with them holes though, but probably its because P3 is to leave the scene in a near future.
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