Broken Celeron-II Die

[BakedGoat]

I just brok my celeron-ii die. Stupid Golden Orb. Anyway, what do you guys recommend me getting? I was gonna go for a PIII-850... Ohh what I also wanted to know is would Intel actually replace your Celeron because the die broke?

[Phil]

I doubt intel would replace it but it can't sdo any harm to ask, I would recomend the p3 700 instead of the 850 as they overclock better, the 700 will moer than likely go to 933mhz and possibly over 1ghz where as with the 85 you will stuck at fsb speeds under 133mhz and pci speeds out of spec, plus the 700 is cheaper, try to get a cCO stepping as well

[BakedGoat]

Phil, I found a PIII700, but it's wierd, the PIII 733's more expensive than the 700 =)

But anyway, I'll go pick one up and let you know how I do =) Thanks

[Slake]

BakedGoat (May 13, 2001 07:28 p.m.):
Phil, I found a PIII700, but it's wierd, the PIII 733's more expensive than the 700 =)

But anyway, I'll go pick one up and let you know how I do =) Thanks

The 700 rocks from all reports I've read. You oughta get a new HSF too BakedGoat. Well, maybe try it out on the 700 but the Gorb gets less than stellar reccomendations in the forum. The Alphas and Swiftechs get consistantly good results. I have heatsink deficiency syndrome myself and plan on getting a Swiftech MC370 ASAP.

[h2k]

What if he got a 750?

[Shadow ÒÓ]

no.......if he can find the 700 cCO chip........he's pretty much guarnteed a gig processor.

Mr B is the authority on them tho.........ask him. From what I've learned from Mr B, the best OCable PIII or Celeron is the 700. as the man said.......it's cheaper and I've yet to hear a bad report on ANY 700 chip.

[Phil]

the best overclockable p3 is the 700 definately, 933mhz almost everytime and a lot of people get over 1ghz (about 1.05ghz :) ) the best celeron is definately not the celeron 700 though, it's one of the worse overclocking celerons (everything over 633mhz is iffy, over 667mhz is just not worth buying for overclocking) the 600mhz celeron is probabally the best balance of settling for default speed or getting a higher bus speed

[Mr B]

I don't know that I'd say "authority"...I just seem to retain a lot of what I've read from other people's posts....=)

I do have a bit of experience with the Celeron II.....and a smidge with a slot 1 P/// 600E...

The best overclockers (from what I've read, and seen here) for intel's offerings;

Celeron; 300A, 566, and 600
P///, CuMine, 600E, 700E, 900E (if you can find one!). I've seen some posts lately showing the 800EB doing quite well, also.

I read somewhere (here??) that intel picked thru all of the 750E chips, and used these to make the 1 GHz EB's with. Makes sense to me. Sounds like something that intel would do.....

Mr B

[Froggy1]

First time poster but long time watcher! have a OEM Celly-II that won't hit 100FSB at 1.9V Stuck at 83FSB but down to 1.65V. Thought you might want to know about!

[Phil]

Mr B (May 14, 2001 10:57 p.m.):

I read somewhere (here??) that intel picked thru all of the 750E chips, and used these to make the 1 GHz EB's with. Makes sense to me. Sounds like something that intel would do.....

Mr B

I'm not too sure about this as the chips have information about the fsb they are meant for stored on them (there remarked chip detection program can pick up on this) so if they could change this then I would think that they can change the multiplyer too so I doubt they would limit them selfs to just the 750's

[Slake]

Froggy (May 14, 2001 11:30 p.m.):
First time poster but long time watcher! have a OEM Celly-II that won't hit 100FSB at 1.9V Stuck at 83FSB but down to 1.65V. Thought you might want to know about!

Great temps Froggy. I'd commit a crime for those numbers. I want that Swiftech MC370.

[eTiMaGo]

well... i remember breaking a friend's P3 600 die and getting it replaced by intel :D made up some cheap excuse...

and currently I am using a C600@963... but here is a little pic of what it looks like:

[img="http://www.uplands.org/etimago/crackedcore.jpg]

and it still works! whee hee!

[eTiMaGo]

well... i remember breaking a friend's P3 600 die and getting it replaced by intel :D made up some cheap excuse...

and currently I am using a C600@963... but here is a little pic of what it looks like:

[img="http://www.uplands.org/etimago/images/crackedcore.jpg"]

and it still works! whee hee!

[Shadow ÒÓ]

actually you have a buffer zone that's a bit bigger than what you show in the pics. The breaks you show aren't that severe. That's just the edges of the die that have suffered slight damage. If you can see hair line cracks extending towards the center of the die, then you may have some problems. I wouldn't worry about your chip from what I can see.

[Phil]

the die on the flip chips is quite a way under the nickel top bit. there was a guy on oc.au that lapped it almost flat looking for copper :) and it still worked, the actual die is very flat (like a slither of paper) underneath the nickel bit.

[Froggy1]

Slake (May 20, 2001 11:51 p.m.):
Froggy (May 14, 2001 11:30 p.m.):
First time poster but long time watcher! have a OEM Celly-II that won't hit 100FSB at 1.9V Stuck at 83FSB but down to 1.65V. Thought you might want to know about!

Great temps Froggy. I'd commit a crime for those numbers. I want that Swiftech MC370.

That Swiftech was one of the better investments I made! And it is not as loud as they say!