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zulu
05-17-01, 05:05 PM
Trying to run @ 133 MHZ, I rose a voltage to 1.90!!- pretty much, and still no success!! the problems are:
1.It requres to press twice reset button in order to post successfully.
2. When loading windows it displays error massages on blue screen.
3. When it done whith win. it locks @ 3d games, and 3d mark 2001.
4. @700 MHZ and 1.9 vc idle temp is 27 c, load -30 c.
Memory @ 3-3-3.
So, apperently its not a heat problem, agreed?
I tried to pull out network card - no help.
I cannot chang Gorb to ALFA, 'couse we don't have them here..., besides Gorb seems to do the job.
So what can be the problem, for God's sake??
Please , help me. (I'm not going to rise a voltage more, I think It can REALLY burn this chip.)

Placid
05-17-01, 05:17 PM
What fsb are you trying to run at?
Well if its 133mhz on a bx board its probably either your video card dosent like the agp bus speed or you can try setting your memory timing to 3-3-3 if its at 2-2-2.
Not very many bx boards are stable at or above 133mhz thats why not many say they will support a 133mhz cpu.
Then again it may be your cpu is just not up to it.

LutaWicasa
05-17-01, 10:18 PM
A lot of the BX boards don't like 133 FSB, but a few run fine a little above or a little below. Have ya tried 129 FSB, or 138??

zulu
05-18-01, 04:01 AM
I'd love to run @ 124MHZ , but my mobo has only 100,103, 112, and 133 MHZ. Is there any other software means of changing FSB not from BIOS , and at small steps?
I tried programm called "Soft FSB" but it uses the same steps as my mobo...

bdf24
05-18-01, 10:59 AM
Do you have the option to change your pci multilplier? Make sure it is set at 1\4 your fsb. Also what may help is try moving your ram to the farthest ram slot from your cpu.

I cannot boot in any higher then 960mhz unless I move my ram to the farthest slot.

Door Knob
05-18-01, 11:37 AM
Have you updated your bios. That may get rid of the first problem. I would have to agree with the other posts in that it looks like it is your board.

[OC]_SR20DE
05-18-01, 11:39 AM
Zulu, how old is your mobo? I think your Aopen 440bx chipset based mobo is not a very good one of the BX mobos. Your FSB selector is very limited, that sounds to me it's not a very new one. It is highly possible that your mobo is holding you back.

Tip: Ditch the junky mobo and get a Hot!! mobo.

[OC]_SR20DE
05-18-01, 12:38 PM
wait a minute... are you using a Slotket?? is that why your FSB selector is limited? so I suppose you have a FCPGA then..

logos
05-18-01, 06:22 PM
have you burned it in? that might help it make the jump to 133, especially if it already almost runs at that speed

The Faceless Rebel
05-18-01, 07:13 PM
Couple things I have to say.

(1) Aopen AX6BC does NOT have a 1/4 PCI multiplier. At 133FSB you are running your PCI bus something like 50% above spec. This means your HDDs all your PCI cards etc. are being pushed well beyond any sane limits. This is a serious problem, you can destroy your HDD doing this.

(2) There are 2 versions of the AX6BC. There is the "official" version which comes with a crappy PLL that has very few FSBs (100, 103, 112, 133). And there is the "Type R" version which was supposed to have only sold in Taiwan. That version has more FSB speeds (100, 103, 112, 117, 124, 133, etc.), in fact it has a 153 FSB speed even though that would be impossible without a 1/4 PCI multiplier, which as I said AX6BC does not have.

(3) If you are running at 133FSB with only PC100 SDRAM you will most likely get lots of crashes. Even the best quality PC100 RAM is probably not qualified to run at 133FSB. You will have to buy PC133 RAM or lower your FSB. If you are using generic SDRAM you might not even get reliable speeds over 100FSB.

(4) The Aopen AX6BC is a older generation BXboard. It is a really good BXboard actually, don't knock it. It got 92% rating at Anandtech. I've used my AX6BC for more than 3 years now, first with an OCed Celeron 400@500 and now a Celeron566@994/952. But since it is an older BXboard it has no 1/4 PCI multiplier, it is Slot1, it has only 4 PCI slots (and 2 ISA slots), and stuff like that. It is a good overclocker board in most respects except no 1/4 multiplier, a big drawback. And as I mentioned, since there are 2 versions in circulation if you have bad luck you get crappy non-Type R board. :(

(5) Update your BIOS. The last version of BIOS Aopen made for AX6BC is 2.55. Get it and see it if enables the other FSBs, I don't think it will since its your clock generator that is limited. But you never know...

bdf24
05-18-01, 09:16 PM
[quote]The Faceless Rebel (May 18, 2001 07:13 p.m.):
(3) If you are running at 133FSB with only PC100 SDRAM you will most likely get lots of crashes. Even the best quality PC100 RAM is probably not qualified to run at 133FSB. quote]

Actually this is not true. I had some generic PC100 running at 133mhz stable on an abit BX133 RAID. And that was 2 64meg chips. I have also read a lot of posts in these boards where people are running PC100 ram at and above 133mhz stable.

I think it depends more on the rest of your hardware then just your ram.

But I agree, You are going to need the 1\4 fsb pci mulitplier! Other wise I dont believe you will have any success. You may need to buy a new board. I have to run my pci bus at 1\4 the fsb and my fsb is only 125mhz.

[OC]_SR20DE
05-19-01, 12:29 AM
yep... like I said, ditch that mobo cauze flashing wont cut it. and get a real one.

BTW, yes I agree with bdf24. Some of the PC100 from Azzo (i think this is one of them) at CAS3 setting, it'll go and be stable at blistering 165+ mhz FSB and 155+mhz FSB at CAS2. Im not making this up. I have seen this and actually saw some of them performing at that speed. Also, my old Samsong PC100 RAM did 145mhz FSB easily~~~~. hahahahaha~!!!!!!

logos
05-19-01, 02:49 AM
that's weird they would make a board that runs 133 but lacks 1/4 pci divider...

zulu
05-19-01, 01:24 PM
Thanks for all replies, but you forget that all the purpose of buing the slotket was to keep the mobo, and save the money, not to by a new one.
If I was changing the mobo I'd prefer to go for a brand new Athlon system.
Anyway , yes I have fashed the BIOS to the newest one, I have burn it in, and no, it doesn't have 1/4 pci divider, only 2/3 AGP diveder. If there is no options to make 124 MHz possible by software means (B.T.W. do you know it? what is the type of Ax6Bc clock generator?), I'll come down and keep it @ 112Mhz.
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