To Submerge or not to Submerge.

[PolarExpress]

Okay I have a Mag3 on the way and I am gonna go with a nice size res. I was wondering rather then running a 1" ID connection to the res why not just submerge? There would be even lower pressure no? How does this effect the sound quality? Thinking it might help to reduce vibrations. Also no worries about leaks! I did a search but didn't really see to much if you have any pics I am looking for ideas as well as feedback :)

[squeakygeek]

If you do it properly, submerging the pump will greatly reduce noise and vibration.

[PolarExpress]

I had seen a site where the person just used a well sealed plastic container (electricle box i think). Then ran their hose and wire through the top also well sealed . What else would improve on this basic design? Would there maybe be a benefit to somehow suspend the pump within the res?

[ChillPhatCat]

Well... it will be quieter... but it will add more heat to the system than inline... since you're not just heating the water that runs through it, but all the heat it dissipates... not much of a difference when it comes down to the hard numbers, but a difference nonetheless.

[Graystar]

Originally posted by ChillPhatCat
but it will add more heat to the system than inline... since you're not just heating the water that runs through it, but all the heat it dissipates... not much of a difference when it comes down to the hard numbers, but a difference nonetheless. Actually, the hard numbers say that you'd add at least twice the amount of heat that you would in an inline setup.

[Diggrr]

Yeah, it does add more watts to the water that then need to be removed, but let's look at this realisiticaly.
The pump produces 35 watts of heat.
Inline, say you're adding 10 watts of heat to your water, but submerged you add another 25 watts (for a total of 35).

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not much to be worrying about. Probably less than a northbridge block would add (guessing here).
If your watercooling system's back is broken over that 25 watts, then quite honestly you've done something wrong with your setup.
It's more likely that the reservior was built with a poor layout, and the submersion is causing too much flow restriction, or placed wrong to impede airflow through the radiator.
When using a good strong pump like a Mag 3, then flow restriction isn't too much of a bother, but it can be dealt with.


I say submerge that puppy! Don't look back...get thee to Lowe's!:D

[AngryAlpaca]

With a certain mag drive pump (Cathar wasn't too specific) inline, all the energy drawn was transferred to the water :eek: Also, you won't be drawing the full 35 watts, and, with a typical system (Even with full transfer), it might mean an increase in water temps by 0.7C, which isn't really a lot, and that assumes that NONE of the heat (Full 35 watts, which won't happen) is transferred with the pump inline... Also, I've heard that the Mag 3 likes unrestricted water to it's inlet.

[PolarExpress]

Until all the pieces of the puzzle show up I am only making a ruff estimate but I figure the res will be a min of 1.5 liters. or more. That's including the displacement of the Mag3. If the hard numbers are worse case scenario 1C to water temps that isn't looking to bad. Will have to see if I can try it this way.

Still interested in some pic's or drawing of anyone who has a submerged set up. Would like some more ideas :)