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Mictlan
05-21-01, 01:47 PM
If I plan to buy a new CPU, which should I get? A Coppermine processor or a Tualatin processor? Do I need a new mobo for this? I just love my BX, but seems that I need a 800 chipset now (815 or other)?

Please give me some advice.....this is part of my long term investment

newbietweaker
05-21-01, 01:59 PM
what is Tualatin processor? im kinda new

Pinky
05-21-01, 02:13 PM
Wait on the Tualatin, they are way overpriced for the nominal increase in power (though overclocking these may prove to be quite fun...)

I say go dual PIII processor (FCPGA) and overclock the hell out of some 700 or 800 chips (with plenty of case cooling mind you). You will spend maybe 60% of what a Tualatin and mobo would run, and have 40% more power with the dual procs.

Just one man's opinion...

Placid
05-21-01, 02:35 PM
Where did you see someplace selling these Pinky?

Mictlan the Tualatim cpus are all fcpga and only run at 133mhz.
So if you want to overclock it you will need a very good system.

Read the post on the main page today by Ed.

Mictlan
05-21-01, 04:02 PM
For sake of information Tualatin processor will be the next P III. It has a 0.13 micron architecture. When you lower the architecture you lower power consumptions and heat production. It is said that PIII Tualatin's will run at 1.1 V.

Well, I think if I want to run higger CPU multipler I have to buy a new mobo as my Iwill BD100+ accepts up to 8x. I have to do a little reserach at Iwill if I can run a 1GHz chip with that mobo.

I read in a tread in this forum that running two processors is not as a good idea for everyone. I mainly run games and Office, so I won't that much of a benefit with two processors (besides running two Work Units for SETI). Besids, I don't like NT that much.

Anyway, which Coppermine will be a good OC? There's a 800E (800 MHz CPU running at 100 MHz FSB), isn't it?

Placid
05-21-01, 04:34 PM
Yes you can get a p3 800 with a 100 fsb.
You can also get a p3 1000 with 133fsb.
The 700 with 100 fsb is a favorite of overclockers.
I hate say it but you might want to consider amd if you want to overclock. 1.4-1.5ghz is not uncommon with these.

UnseenMenace
05-21-01, 05:39 PM
Placid (May 21, 2001 04:34 p.m.):
I hate say it but you might want to consider amd if you want to overclock. 1.4-1.5ghz is not uncommon with these.

I believe that Placid has just given you the best advice, as I was once a Die Hard Intel fan running a BX mobo and was concerned about moving to AMD, but the performance for the price was just to tempting. I decided to start with a Duron first and hoped that it would be Ok .. All I can say is that Intel has seen the last of me for the moment, no problems at all and with the money saved from buying AMD I got more ram and my Duron still benchmarks out well compared to a 1ghz P3.. you should seriously consider the move

outhouse
05-21-01, 08:40 PM
Your rite about the duel boards not overclocking well most dont, I think for the money my next PC will be AMD 1.3 [oh remember you will have to spend extra money on AMD cooling if you want to run those at high MHZ. Well i'll kick this p31g@1255 around for a while. Hey Mictlan I gave you a break last night I reformatted my hard drive and was down for 4 to 5 hours reinstalling all of my software [still not done] I was just trying to see if it will help me get a few more MHZ out of this puppy . Well posting in the forum is a good idea to get some extra knowledge before you buy I wish i did. I think i would figure out what you can spend and then do some shopping and compare system's and then go for the best bandwidth with the highest MHZ good luck

zulu
05-22-01, 02:35 PM
Go for an entirely NEW AMD system...
BX mobo are good but they generally will not get all the juice from O/C p3.
So anyway you need a new mobo, and if so ... go for AMD..

xiggy
05-22-01, 04:00 PM
DUDE!!!!!!! if you get a P111 MAKE SURE that you get an E chipset NOT an EB if you plan on overclocking such as i have a P111 800E Overclocked to 1,100 MHZ, where as if i had a P111 800EB i might not get passed 950 MHz or so(with good quality RAM and video card on the same FSB).
so all in all go with a P111 Copper 800E or what ever your flavor of speed is.