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Gersen
05-25-01, 09:41 PM
Not being much of an overclocker, but having learned the details and getting ready to experiment, I checked out my existing equipment. I've had stability problems with this system before, and posted about it in General, got some input, made some changes, and it's better then before. Got a "Comp-u-Nurse" temp sensor and started checking taking some baseline readings.

When I pulled the standard heatsink off the place the temp probe, I found a piece of white plastic tape was still on the heatsink over the CPU die! That was most likely my instability problem, preventing heat transfer. When I peeled it off, it left a piece of brown tape with an adhesive face, which must have been some sort of thermal tape for mounting a heatsink. I figured I could do without it and peeled it off, put on a dab of heatsink compund and remounted it, with the temp probe right next to, and touching, the die.

Idling in Win98SE, with no CPU cooling program and the standard HSF, it's around 42.6 C. When I pushed it through some Prime95, it rose to 44.1, and hit 44.3 during 3DMark2001.

I know the PIII I'm using is rated for use up to 60 C, but I want to know at what temps they have begun to show instability in your experience.

Also, if I understand correctly, some of you guys sand off the blue finish on the die for better heat transfer, is that correct?

I have a better motherboard and a GlobalWin VOS32 on order, thanks to the helpful advice I've received in these forums, but I'd still like to experiment on this system in it's current state, and your data and input would be welcomed.

G

Mr B
05-25-01, 10:00 PM
Hey,

You're off to a good start removing the crud intel put on the cpu....hope you got some Arctic Silver to go with the new hsf when you ordered....best stuff out there...

Those temps are kinda high, I think. I'm running a P/// 600E, 1.95v, at 954 MHz (159 FSB) and my temps don't get to 40c. (but I'm running an Alpha P3125, as opposed to the intel unit you have at the moment).

As far as sanding the cpu die, there's a lot of people who will tell you either/or on doing this. I did it with my Celeron C600, and the P///. I used either 1200 or 1500 grit wet/dry automotive sandpaper only, and didn't even remove all of the "blue". Done very lightly, I don't see any problems doing this. You've just got to be delacate, and keep the chip FLAT while sanding. (not the easiest with a slot 1 P///) If the chip "rocks" while doing this, you'll round off the die, making it more difficult to get the hsf to sit level. This is worse than not doing anything at all.

Read up on this extensively, before actually attempting it. There's quite a bit of info on the front page here, and in the forums as well. Good luck w/ the new board and hsf....

Mr B

[Oc]acaridans
05-25-01, 10:08 PM
how much of an performance increase would be seen after sanding a die?

Mr B
05-25-01, 10:10 PM
Not a lot, really, this is more for better heat transfer, lower temps. Don't think you'd get much of a speed increase (if any).

Mr B

[Oc]acaridans
05-25-01, 10:13 PM
sorry my bad....i was refering to temp performance..

Mr B
05-25-01, 10:25 PM
That I really can't hazard a guess on this...I didn't take note of the temps before and after I did them, but every little bit helps, I'm sure....

Mr B

[Oc]acaridans
05-25-01, 10:27 PM
yep we certianly know that..

Gersen
05-25-01, 11:35 PM
If I sand down the die, I'll post temperature readings before/after, and pictures if I can. May not try it though.

G