are there any benefits in flashing a 9800p to an xt bios?

[__TRONIK__]

like it sez - I know that flashing a 9800np to a pro can give a few more mem mhz thanks to looser timings - anything like that?

[TheGhengisKhan]

I don't know if it's possible to flash a 9800pro to an xt.

I think I saw somewhere that the board layout is different.

[__TRONIK__]

yeah the board layout is different - but I have for sure run across a person or two who has done it. I think I may even have seen people flash 9700's to 9800's from time to time.

[DDR-PIII]

How to: Softmod your 9800NP/Pro into XT (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=270479)


Originally posted by __TRONIK__
yeah the board layout is different - but I have for sure run across a person or two who has done it. I think I may even have seen people flash 9700's to 9800's from time to time.

It wasfake, 9700's cant do the speed of a 9800xt, stable anyway... and it wouldhaveto bestable in order to fla**** :) otherwise it would f'up :P

[__TRONIK__]

I did not mean people flashing 9700-9800xt, I meant flash 9700 to 9800 and 9800 to xt

[DDR-PIII]

i know, but still the clock difference is too much, unless they are lucky :) like it says on that page xtspeeds...412/365....and 9700sare 310 and something ? icant remember.

[Molester]

<---9800pro flashed to xt

results include higher fps on all games i play, 5% jump in 3dmark scores, able to overclock about 5% more as well

only thing i see that's not right is while running 3dmark03 you see a grid in 3 or 4 tests, this is covered at the 3dmaxx.com forums extinsively, 3dmark03 is the only program that this happens w/ and futuremark is supposed to be working on this issue, they say it dosn't work for or against you, just a detection problem w/in 3dmark03 itself

i would recommend the flash as long as you have good cooling

[__TRONIK__]

i see....guess I will be doing it then. I will have a pelt on there so i am not worried bout that - only problem is I do not run/have a floppy - I do have an extra PCI vid card but I guess I need to get my hands on a floppy as well.

[DDR-PIII]

you dont really need a floppy, hmmm... you just gotta boot into dos some how, make a partition and set it as the active partition and put dos on it :P

or justpickup a used floppy drive, they are cheap :)

[__TRONIK__]

errr....i think i will use a floppy! my uber hardware kung fu skills are not matched by uber dos skills.

[Molester]

go to http://www.3dmaxx.com , you'll find everything you'll need there(go to the forums if you have a 128mb pro for the bios and any questions you have)

[glock19owner]

Originally posted by Molester
i would recommend the flash as long as you have good cooling

I just flashed my PC 9800 (128MB) Pro to the XT...using stock cooling with no ramsinks...havent noticed really any increase in temps a few C's, nothing real major, or stability and I did a 10x loop on 3d mark 2001 and was playing CoD for the last hour or so...

[glock19owner]

After doing a clean or as close to it...on the omega drivers, I set the system back to specs for my "default" settings that I used for the first 9800 Pro benchmarks...

(Default driver settings)

9800 Pro non/modded 16608 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7574467)

9800 XT modded 17051 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7577108)

[__TRONIK__]

so you got that improvement with the same clocks?

[DDR-PIII]

no no, when you mod the pro/no to the xt it raisesthe clock speedsto Xt'sdefault speeds.

[$anch3z]

yeah ok so it changes the original clock speed i got that much.....but does it enable a better overclock ??
as you can see from my sig i got a good oc already with the pro bios but will definately check out an xt bios if it allows higher mhz with stability
btw that 3dmaxx link won't work for me:(

[__TRONIK__]

nah I was asking glock if he got the 500 more 3dmark s with the only variable being the bios - IE he ran 3dmark with the same gpu/mem clocks. Obviously when you run standard 9800p clocks against standard xt clocks, the xt will win, regardless of bioses

[glock19owner]

Originally posted by __TRONIK__
nah I was asking glock if he got the 500 more 3dmark s with the only variable being the bios - IE he ran 3dmark with the same gpu/mem clocks. Obviously when you run standard 9800p clocks against standard xt clocks, the xt will win, regardless of bioses

set at default Pro speeds with the XT bios falsh...

16672 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7579492)

As you can see there was a slight increase...