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Surreal
02-20-04, 06:38 PM
Hi.
I am taking a business class and have a project due next week about a "dream" business we want to start. Its just a mock project.
I want to sell watercooled PCs. (i really wish!)
I need selling points on a WCed system.
What are the advatages of cooling a PC by water vs. the standerd aircoolers.
NOISE for one.
But thats the only thing i really can justify.
The CPU will last longer but it will be outdated in 6 months why would i need it to last 10 years instead of 7.
It helps overclocking but overclock a 3gig to a 4gig just to have a 5gig chip hit the market.
I highly doubt WCing the CPU will prevent processing errors to a degree noticable.
HELP ME OUT plz!!!
Voodoo Rufus
02-20-04, 07:12 PM
Well, I think you could only advertise H2O towards a gamer market as it costs more than air cooling.
So what does H2O give a gamer/tweaker?
More OCing potential. Brag rights and cool factor, can't forget those.
There's not a whole lot to advertise H2O for as far as I can tell.
Korndog
02-20-04, 07:24 PM
here's one..
its true that as soon as your invest in a cpu, a new one comes out make your cpu decrease in value. BUT watercooling gear is an investment as well, possibly a better investment then your power supply.
say for example that you purchased a waterblock for a socket 370 amd k5 processor, you can still use the same cooling gear for a socket 462 amd xp 3200+ now. thats 5 generations of cpus, even power supplies have changed from at to atx throughout that time.
sure, old waterblocks aren't comparible to new ones, but an old maze block still does its wonders on even some of the hottest cpus even, imo, comparible to some high-end air cooling (minus the noise).
AND.. if processor socket arrays change and cheap waterblock adaptor can be sold.
MoreGooder
02-20-04, 07:25 PM
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
As processor speeds increase while chip die size shrinks, both the amount of heat (Watts) and the area that it is concentrated within are expected to rise. We are reaching the limits of what air cooling can provided. Liquid cooling seems to be the next step, and one which has been used for decades in the "super computer" industry. Water cooling seems more popular in Europe and Asia in my opinion. The US lags behind. However, if you look at the products in other parts of the globe the market is focused on silent cooling with equal performance to noisy air cooling. This is the most likely step that the mainstream public would be willing to take.
Hope that helps.
ChillPhatCat
02-20-04, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by MoreGooder
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
As processor speeds increase while chip die size shrinks, both the amount of heat (Watts) and the area that it is concentrated within are expected to rise. We are reaching the limits of what air cooling can provided. Liquid cooling seems to be the next step, and one which has been used for decades in the "super computer" industry. Water cooling seems more popular in Europe and Asia in my opinion. The US lags behind. However, if you look at the products in other parts of the globe the market is focused on silent cooling with equal performance to noisy air cooling. This is the most likely step that the mainstream public would be willing to take.
Hope that helps.
As the Desktop chips get hotter it is going to lead to water cooling... unless we find a perfect balance... CPU's used to be just a chip on a board and passively cooled up until 1993 when the pentium came out... then they all got heat sinks and now heatsinks with a fan are on 99.9% of desktops... it's almost becoming a requirement to have a copper heatsink, and once we're faced with the decision between a silver heatsink and a watercooler... well there is nothing to debate...
Watercooling is the way of the future.
Surreal
02-20-04, 08:16 PM
good points everyone.....
I will definitly go with the watercooling system lasting longer than the processor.
Wicked Klown
02-20-04, 08:47 PM
Right now most servers are watercooled. Due to the fact they run cooling and in the end have less BSODs. Kinda like the way most businesses do a RAID1 in case something has dies it's backed up. So running cooling in the end means a more stable system, less down time and more output.
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