Itanium

[btr]

Where and when can I get an Itanium cpu? I know it will be expensive, but I have the money and I really can't wait to put my hands on it.

[Placid]

http://www.bstore.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpbs/detailhtml.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0639826083.0992097 436@@@@&BV_EngineID=fallecieglkbeibecfgecji.0&oid=31731

Only for sale as part of a oem pc for now that I know of.

[Philip]

SGI has got theirs also,

http://www.sgi.com/workstations/750/

[btr]

Are there any more? It seems that only the Hp one is available but they dont let anyone customize it.

[Placid]

The intel site says 25 mfg's are currently making systems with this cpu so just check with all the big name mfg's.

[Phil]

apart from being very expensive, (and I mean very you a lottery winner or something?) they will probabally only be released to certain companys. The itanium is nothing more than a beta trial of their next 64bit chip (mckinley is it?) which will be on general release, I doubt the consumer even if they could afford the itanium could get their hands on one.

[btr]

It will be very bad if I can't get Itanium.
Actually, will Itanium or dual Foster be faster?

[Phil]

as an end user itanium would be crap for you anyway. The only apps written for it will be databases etc..
Are you a lottery winner or something?
If I were you I'd go for dual palaminos.

[btr]

Found a great deal. $520 for a foster and $785 for a dual foster board. Guess I can build a much more powerful system for the same money ($7999) using Fosters.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Phil (Jun 14, 2001 01:53 p.m.):
as an end user itanium would be crap for you anyway. The only apps written for it will be databases etc..
Are you a lottery winner or something?
If I were you I'd go for dual palaminos.

Don't you come to my favorite board and start suggesting AMD's! Git back to the AMD section! [img=http://forums.overclockers.ws/forums/Public/Images/Default/E18.gif]

[Endeavor]

here are the prices for JUST THE CHIP:
Itanium processors will feature 2 and 4 MB of L3 cache and 800 and 733 MHz frequency speeds at prices ranging from $1,177 to $4,227.

holy ****, u could buy a 1.33 ghz athlon system for that kind of money

[Phil]

Shadow ÒÓ (Jun 16, 2001 05:38 p.m.):
Don't you come to my favorite board and start suggesting AMD's! Git back to the AMD section! [img=http://forums.overclockers.ws/forums/Public/Images/Default/E18.gif]

I'm not some pro-amd guy you know. I personelly don't own an amd machine and only have intel systems. But I'm not a loyal intel or amd fan, I just know which is 'Currently best'

[castle lager fan]

Itanium is currently focussed at specialised functions and beta software testing. The machines using it has just been released and are Workstations and Servers. It is not intended for end users with PC programs. The reasons for this are the following:
1) It uses 64 bit and specialized instructions
2) The first iteration IA 64 (Itanium) has low clock rates and will perform pretty bad with common PC apps
3) These chips are focussed at ISV (Independant software vendors) like Oracle, Microsoft, etc as well as leading or bleeding edge customers. Feel like developing your own OS and apps. Then get it!

In the right environment these chips rock. Enourmous floating point capability and wonderful superscalar performance. There is currently no Windows or Linux available to the public ready for it. Only Unix systems. It is also never intended for public end use for the next 12 months.

Stay with 32 bit as 32 bit apps execute faster on 32 bit machines than on 64 bit ones. Oneday we will get 6 bit apps. Do you seriously want 16TB, yes 16 000 GB or more RAM on your PC? That what 64 bit computers do. In theory today practice tommorrow ;-).

Anyway don't get it for your PC. Why do you think intel invested so much into P4?

Hope it helps.