Difference between celerons

[thepaulinator]

Hi I is there a reason that my motherboard would run a Celeron 433 and while rated to a PIII 500 would not run a celeron 566? The company I bought it from claims that the difference is the one I bought is a FC-PGA370 and the one in my motherboard is a PPGA. Would this make a difference and if so would changing my slocket adaptor help? Thank you for any advice.
Paul

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thepaulinator (Jun 11, 2001 03:24 p.m.):
Hi I is there a reason that my motherboard would run a Celeron 433 and while rated to a PIII 500 would not run a celeron 566? The company I bought it from claims that the difference is the one I bought is a FC-PGA370 and the one in my motherboard is a PPGA. Would this make a difference and if so would changing my slocket adaptor help? Thank you for any advice.
Paul

You didn't say what slotket you have, but if it has a jumper for coppermine, you should select that setting. There is a difference in the pin assignments between the PGA & FCPGA chips.

Dave

[Phil]

basically when intel changed to the flip chip celeron and added sse they though it would be funny if all those old celeron boards and slockets didn't work with it's new celeron. They did this by moving a couple of pins around so that fc-pga s370 sockets would recognise both ppga and fcpga but that ppga sockets wouldn't recognise new fcpga chips. There are mdifications that can remidy this but if you are using a slocket you are much better off buying a new fc-pga compatible one, also you may need a bios update so that the board has the coppermine microcode

[thepaulinator]

The slocket in the system now is the generic one that came with the system and has no name on it and no jumpers. Could I purchase one with a jumper and make it work?
Thanks again .
Paul

[thepaulinator]

Excellent thank you for your very fast and courteous advice.
Paul
Phil (Jun 11, 2001 03:32 p.m.):
basically when intel changed to the flip chip celeron and added sse they though it would be funny if all those old celeron boards and slockets didn't work with it's new celeron. They did this by moving a couple of pins around so that fc-pga s370 sockets would recognise both ppga and fcpga but that ppga sockets wouldn't recognise new fcpga chips. There are mdifications that can remidy this but if you are using a slocket you are much better off buying a new fc-pga compatible one, also you may need a bios update so that the board has the coppermine microcode

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thepaulinator (Jun 11, 2001 03:33 p.m.):
The slocket in the system now is the generic one that came with the system and has no name on it and no jumpers. Could I purchase one with a jumper and make it work?
Thanks again .
Paul

I have an Abit Slotket !!! which I purchased from an online vendor for less than $20, it's fully adjustable for coppermine and also FSB speeds.

Dave

[Mr B]

There's a few threads going on concerning different brand slockets...you might want to read a few of them.

Lookk in this topic, and the intel motherboards, and gen hardware, for those threads....

The Abit !!! has been getting quite a few "bad reveiws" in here lately, with the majority of complaints being instability over 950MHz or so...

there's also been a few cases of faster overclocks when replacing the Abit !!! with a different brand of slocket. I'd be a bit leery of the Abit !!! at this point. there's a bunch of different manufacturers of this component, some others models are;

Soltek SL02A++

Asus II

Iwill II

MSI Master 2.0

These are all Coppermine compatable, with a good selection of vcore settings onboard. These are the features you will need to look for when choosing a slocket to run a Celeron II chip (533a and up).

Leave it to intel to move those pins around, to make them incompatable. I think their thought process was to sell more of their socket 370 intel chipset based motherboards. Change the configuration, sell more stuff...

Mr B

[ken257]

Not all slockets will support a P3. If yours is generic there is a good chance that the slocket is the trouble. I like MSI the best they seem to be trouble free and OC great.

[Phil]

I am actually looking for a ppga slocket to practice modifying up to fc-pga compatability (before I do it to my bp6) so if any one in the uk has an old ppga slocket they don't need let me know, I'll even give it you back if I sucessfully modify it :)