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AmbientFiction
06-16-01, 06:06 AM
On a 533 celeron when does the temp of the CPU get to hot Right now I am clocked at 600 but I am working on forceing my way up to 666 or close to that but, it would be nice to know what temp I should stay below I am running a CPU temp between 70 and 84 degrees F at all times I have a Tornado fan on my CPU a normal front fan and a 3" in the back...
Well maybe one more question how high can I push my IO volts before I pop the board of chip?

Maybe this will help this is my chip info....If anyone knows of a way that I can kick this pup into running 83/..Damn I forget .....I am sure you know what I am talking about...
Well here it is.
General information:
Vendor string: GenuineIntel
Description: not available
Speed: 599.6 MHz
Family: 6 (Pentium Pro/II/III/Celeron)
Model: 6 (Celeron/PII (if L2-cache>128K))
Stepping: 5
Type: 0 (Original OEM)

Features:
MMX: yes
3DNow: no
ISSE: no

Internal cache:
Level 1 data cache: 16 KB
Level 1 instr. cache: 16 KB
Level 2 cache (unified): 128 KB


Thanks in advance for all your help

batboy
06-16-01, 07:21 AM
Well, 84 degrees F is about 30 degrees C, so I'm guess those are idle CPU temps or you're looking at system temps and not CPU temps. You need to examine full load CPU temps which I'd try to stay at 40 degrees C or less with a Celeron. I use the Unreal game demo loop for 15 minutes to test mine, but you can also use the Sandra's CPU torture test or Prime95. Anything to give that CPU a workout while watching temps in realtime.

LutaWicasa
06-16-01, 08:52 PM
Actually, if I read this right your temps are nice and cool. It appears you're running the 533 not the 533a, correct ? If this is so, you'll be fine with temps in the 45-48c range.

AmbientFiction
06-16-01, 09:55 PM
No I am running a Celeron A are those temps a problem??? and how can I force my Vcore higher its locked I am rinning a MSI6309...I was running an Abit but I got **** out when my board went bad and they put a cheap board in here

Mr B
06-16-01, 10:14 PM
AmbientFiction (Jun 16, 2001 09:55 p.m.):
No I am running a Celeron A are those temps a problem??? and how can I force my Vcore higher its locked I am rinning a MSI6309...I was running an Abit but I got **** out when my board went bad and they put a cheap board in here

That's definitely a Celeron II, 533a ?? I thought those had the SSE instructions, as well....

Green chip with a small bluish square in the middle??

Mr B

AmbientFiction
06-16-01, 10:23 PM
Running Cupid it tells me I am running a CeleronA SSE not suported

Running Test CPU I get the same thing

Family=6
Stepping=5
Model=6

So how hot is too hot for a 533 celeron...I can't seem to get above a FSB 73/ whatever the backside of that is..Is it posible to get a 533 upto a 83/ FSB?

And why would my Vcore be locked to normal in Bios is could ther be a jumper for that?

Thanks for everyones help so far

ebola
06-16-01, 11:48 PM
like mr b said is it a green chip with a blue center or a black chip with a big silver center.

if its the second your not going to get past 599 without liquid nitrogen but the green and blue coppermine could go up to 800mhz or so

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 12:08 AM
Well GrInZ if I take my CPU off my board I am breaking my warenty but by overclock I am doing it to I am just trying to keep from makeing it look so blunt to the people who work on it....

I have noticed when I turn on my spread spectrum my temp drops a good 5 degrees F What does Spread Spectrum do my motherboard book dosen't say too much other than don't mess with it.

Thanks for your help guys

GooGobbler
06-17-01, 12:27 AM
No, he doesnt have the 533a, he has the regular 533. His stepping is "mB0"

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 12:31 AM
"MB0"? ? ?

GooGobbler
06-17-01, 12:34 AM
???

GooGobbler
06-17-01, 12:35 AM
mB0

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 12:37 AM
Yes I was asking what mB0 was sorry my connection droped

GooGobbler
06-17-01, 12:41 AM
I havent heard of the "mB0" (probably because I dont pay attention to celeron's, but that is what you have) Sorry...

outhouse
06-17-01, 04:06 AM
AmbientFiction (Jun 17, 2001 12:08 a.m.):
Well GrInZ if I take my CPU off my board I am breaking my warenty but by overclock I am doing it to I am just trying to keep from makeing it look so blunt to the people who work on it....

I have noticed when I turn on my spread spectrum my temp drops a good 5 degrees F What does Spread Spectrum do my motherboard book dosen't say too much other than don't mess with it.

Thanks for your help guys


www.rojakpot.com has a bios guide that should answer any questions related to your bios.

goodluck

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 04:25 AM
Ever since I overclocked my system I have noticed a dromp in system resources is this normal????

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 05:01 AM
Ok I just wanted to make sure because I'm not running anything different.....I did change my swap so I'm going to see if that fixes the problem

So is their anyway to up Vcore because I can't select it is their something I need to do to be able to select it?

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 05:19 AM
Ok so how would I set swap on a different partition in windoze?

I know how to do it running Linux but I am not running linux right now due to the fact I need another hard drive because everytime I partition my drive and put Linux and windoze on the same drive something major always goes wrong like my registry of ini files just get to missing...but that another story

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 05:39 AM
Duhhh man my brain has really gotten froze up I need some sleep bad last night I think I might have gotten 8 hours but before that I had 5 hours in three days....
Thanks for the help even thought I feel like a total moron now

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 10:01 PM
Ok lets see I got my drive partitioned and a true cache swap of 512 megs. I redid my heatsink so now I know what the chip looks like.
Its a black chip with a silver center.

After redoing the heatsink and getting it use to the new coat(Which was the first time I ever did a heatsink in my life...It was so easy). I clocked it back to a 600mhz system and, I did such a good job in the heatsink I dropped the temp by a good 7-10 degrees F from what it was before.

Thanks for everyone's help so far I just wish I could get this pup up higher to say maybe 660-700 area somewhere in there but I can get it to post if I go up to an 83 bus clock...So I guess I am stuck with a 600mhz unless someone knows something that might help out

Mr B
06-17-01, 10:41 PM
AmbientFiction (Jun 17, 2001 10:01 p.m.):
Ok lets see I got my drive partitioned and a true cache swap of 512 megs. I redid my heatsink so now I know what the chip looks like.
Its a black chip with a silver center.

After redoing the heatsink and getting it use to the new coat(Which was the first time I ever did a heatsink in my life...It was so easy). I clocked it back to a 600mhz system and, I did such a good job in the heatsink I dropped the temp by a good 7-10 degrees F from what it was before.

Thanks for everyone's help so far I just wish I could get this pup up higher to say maybe 660-700 area somewhere in there but I can get it to post if I go up to an 83 bus clock...So I guess I am stuck with a 600mhz unless someone knows something that might help out

Yup, that's the first generation Mendecino core Celeron, alright.

Here's the deal with those...intel was really pushing that core to the limit with that chip (533). They moved to the Celeron II (Coppermine) as the Mendecino core wouldn't go much further. Will it overclock?? Yes. But I'd have have to say that 600 is about max for these. You might get a bit more than that, but not much.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you're at 600, you're likely maxing the chip out.

Mr B

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 10:48 PM
So their is no way to get to the 83 fsb well that sucks
Thanks Mr B and thanks everyone for you help

I am running a Celeron 533 @ 600mhz and the CPU temp is around 74 degrees F all the time might hit 79

I have a normal size fan in front a Tornado or is it a Volcano one or the other and a nice about 3 1/2" fan on the back.

Mr B
06-17-01, 11:11 PM
AmbientFiction (Jun 17, 2001 10:48 p.m.):
So their is no way to get to the 83 fsb well that sucks
Thanks Mr B and thanks everyone for you help

I am running a Celeron 533 @ 600mhz and the CPU temp is around 74 degrees F all the time might hit 79

I have a normal size fan in front a Tornado or is it a Volcano one or the other and a nice about 3 1/2" fan on the back.

Quite honestly, you don't want to go there, anyways....

83FSB is a killer. The PCI bus is so far out of spec at that speed. Expansion cards do very strange things, you can get data corruption on the hard drive...etc...

75 or 90..you don't want 83.

Mr B

AmbientFiction
06-17-01, 11:14 PM
Well I don't have a 90 so it looks like I am going to be a 75 at least till I get a new chip

Thanks

AmbientFiction
06-18-01, 03:35 AM
Well all seems to be going well...Although the temp does rise up to about 91 -93 degrees F when playing games.As soon as I am done not two three mins later the temp is back around 79 degrees F. Is this something I need to worry about do I need to change heatsinks and fan setups?

After looking at my CPU specs I was wanting to know if their is a way to lower the Latency for L2. I have a Latency of 5 and I am hopeing to get it down lower than that.

And again as always thanks everyone for the help

LutaWicasa
06-19-01, 02:14 AM
If you don't have the option in bios to manipulate the L2 cache, H. Oda wrote a proggie called Wcpul2 just for this. If ya can't find it doing a search let me know. I know I have it tucked away somewhere from my old PII and Celly 300a days :)

AmbientFiction
06-19-01, 02:54 AM
Thanks I just found it now to see if it works