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Lionel
06-20-01, 01:55 PM
On my motherboard of my 386, i have a cristal of 14,3 Mhz.
Now i get a cristal from a old networkatapter from 20 Mhz.

What wil be happen if I change the 14 MHz cristal by the 20 Mhz cristal
I have now a 386 40Mhz

Thx, (sorry for my bad English)

Pinky
06-20-01, 02:20 PM
Lionel (Jun 20, 2001 01:55 p.m.):
On my motherboard of my 386, i have a cristal of 14,3 Mhz.
Now i get a cristal from a old networkatapter from 20 Mhz.

What wil be happen if I change the 14 MHz cristal by the 20 Mhz cristal
I have now a 386 40Mhz

Thx, (sorry for my bad English)

I'd be amazed if you posted this thread with that machine. WoW! I think I remember those PCs... from the 80s and I'd say not to try, since the components were much less forgiving back then... now things are designed not to blow up -- back then, part of the fun was the occassional spark, whiff of sulphur (or silicon), and foam extinguisher.

Kingslayer
06-20-01, 03:50 PM
I just want to know if it works. And if it does you BETTER enter it in the CPU database.....if it goes that low. If it doesn't send them an email and have them enter it.

That would rock!

Godfodda
06-20-01, 10:40 PM
Pinky (Jun 20, 2001 02:20 p.m.):

I'd be amazed if you posted this thread with that machine. WoW! I think I remember those PCs... from the 80s and I'd say not to try, since the components were much less forgiving back then... now things are designed not to blow up -- back then, part of the fun was the occassional spark, whiff of sulphur (or silicon), and foam extinguisher.

Early 90's. My first PC was a 386/SX25 in '93. $1300. :-D

I think you're wrong about the components being less forgiving. Hell, the CPUs were soldered in and weren't cooled... not even a heatsink. 5V CPUs, too. I shot sparks through the case several times, too, while playing in it with power on. Still ran flawlessly. How many modern systems could you say that about? :-)

Damn, I miss those days.
386-25 (no mathco)
130 meg HD
1M RAM
256k video card
2400 baud modem
sound? CD? What's that? lol
Ah, and good ol' Win3.1 and DOS5.0.

.....getting old sucks.

Lionel
06-21-01, 07:58 AM
Somebody else????

Intel 386-20Mhz@40 Mhz or AMD 386 40Mhz
PC Chips 321 mobo
2 megs of RAM
1mb RAM on videocard
Floppydrive 3.5"
HDD 80 Mega (now 540 mb)
...

The good old time ;-)

KILLorBE
06-21-01, 08:15 AM
It can be done, actually a friend of my did and that is also the reason I started OCing (Almost 10 years ago)(Damn my friend..hehe).
Have a look here (http://sysopt.earthweb.com/overfaq.html#1.2)
And click (or double click)on "How do I "overclock?""
Good Luck

Pinky
06-21-01, 09:56 AM
I still take my stance, older equipment dies faster.

KILLorBE
06-21-01, 11:08 AM
Pinky (Jun 21, 2001 09:56 a.m.):
I still take my stance, older equipment dies faster.

I have two answers YES and NO.
There's a lot of equipment that will have a longer life than you and me (and that's the old equipment).
Today's equipment is built to last for about 10 years (economical reasons).
Equipment made before WW II is made to last for a lifetime, but there's a lot of equipment built after WW II that will last forever as well.

A saying a friend and I use is: van veur dun eurlog (it's in slang dutch, roughly translated: from before the war).
Xample: A friend (actually his parents) had a spade (made before or just after WW II) that outlasted 4 or 5 new ones.(It still might look brand new right now).

Pinky
06-21-01, 11:42 AM
KILLorBE (Jun 21, 2001 11:12 a.m.):
Pinky (Jun 21, 2001 09:56 a.m.):
I still take my stance, older equipment dies faster.

I have two answers YES and NO.
There's a lot of equipment that will have a longer life than you and me (and that's the old equipment).
Today's equipment is built to last for about 10 years (economical reasons).
Equipment made before WW II is made to last for a lifetime, but there's a lot of equipment built after WW II that will last forever as well.

A saying a friend and I use is: van veur dun eurlog (it's in slang dutch, roughly translated: from before the war).
Xample: A friend (actually his parents) had a spade (made before or just after WW II) that outlasted 4 or 5 new ones.(It still might look brand new right now).

Sorry, I wasn't talking about spades or farm tractors :)
I don't know anything about them. I speak only what I have (at least some) experience with; but your point was well made and true.

There are many people born before WW2 that have outlived people born since, but that doesn't mean that people born before WW2 will outlive everyone born after (sorry, couldn't help play with the 'logic' of your blanket anology).

ebola
06-21-01, 12:11 PM
my dell 486 66 was made to last forever. i bet the thing weighed 40 lbs atleast. way too slow for me. i couldnt even play super nintendo on it at full speed. its in the junkyard where it should be.

KILLorBE
06-21-01, 12:22 PM
Pinky (Jun 21, 2001 11:42 a.m.):

Sorry, I wasn't talking about spades or farm tractors :)
I don't know anything about them. I speak only what I have (at least some) experience with; but your point was well made and true.

There are many people born before WW2 that have outlived people born since, but that doesn't mean that people born before WW2 will outlive everyone born after (sorry, couldn't help play with the 'logic' of your blanket anology).

You're GOOD......hehe ^_^ LOL

JigPu
06-21-01, 07:47 PM
Old stuff does seem to last longer than the new... Mabey it just seems like it because we haven't seen the end of the newest stuff....Or not...
JigPu

Slowest "IBM compatible" (not my Comodore VIC-20):
4.77Mhz ARC 8086 (with turbo to 10.32Mhz!)
20Mb HD
640K RAM
1 5.25" FD
Green screen monitor
MS-DOS ver. 5.00
Sittn' no more than 6 inches to my right!
Don't know no more about it...