My watercooling setup - Few Q's

[stevensonjustin]

Hey guys I'm seeking your expert adivce on my watercooling setup. I just have a few questions first.

Heres my system:

Asus A7V266-D
Dual AMD MP 2000's
1.5Gb DDR 2700 REG Corsair
3x 34Gb Quantum Atlas 10k SCSI HDD
1x 70Gb Quantum Atlas 10k SCSI HDD
ATI Radeon 9800pro
SB Audigy 2
Pioneer 16x DVD
Plextor 52x24x52

I plan on using 1/2" ID tubing and I already have a FEDCO 2-342 heatercore that I will be using. I plan on getting a 5 1/4" bay res and an Ehiem 1250 pump.

1. First question is will 2 whitewater cpu blocks fit on the dualie mobo without modding the heck out of it?

1a. If not, what would be the best blocks to use?

2. What case would be able to fit all these items in comfortably that is not too expensive (i.e. < $150)?

3. I plan on using a Fotron 530w PSU, will this be enough, or should I go higher (and if so, your recomendations)?

I do plan on overclocking this rig.

I hope to get some pictures up of my rig once I get enough feedback to make an informed decision on purchasing the final pieces to my system.

Thanks guys.

[BeerHunter]

Everything Looks good to me.:)
t-bred moblie...been waiting for this:) should be able to OC even more than barton moblies because of less cache.. Awesome.



My recomendation for case is the dragon for only $65 right now at gogocase.com. They are built like a tank.

Without Door
http://gogocase.com/ComputerCase/FullTower/901A/901A_1.jpg

or with door
http://gogocase.com/ComputerCase/FullTower/901AD/Blue/901ADBlue_1.jpg

My case is smaller on top but you need aditional drive space above so I recommed the full dragon rather than my mid dragon.. but this is how to do that rad bottom... will be the same....
http://img27.photobucket.com/albums/v80/beerhunter/rad4.jpg

[Contra]

i like his case an rad setup



but also if you use ww blocks remember that you will need a "Y" for each, and it will be hard to get tube from one processor to another as it is without using the "Y" spliter


it can be done, but never tried(i'm new to WC)

but i can just emagine the tubing nightmare to come


and if you use a block on your VGA it just will get to darn tight in there but i'm sure it can be done
I personally would just use a regular block on both
but that is just me

good luck sir.

[vonkaar]

You are going to have a tubing nightmare unless you get a case from hell... like... a cube or such. That's 6 tubes for your CPUs alone. If you manage to fit that into a standard size case, I'll be impressed.

Good luck ^_^>

[MameXP]

Oh the advice is dont use 1/2" for dual CPU. As its extrememly hard to install. I recommend 3/8" for the CPU blocks .

Also WW WONT fit on that board as it doesnt have holes to mount the block.

You're only best choice is SwiftechMCW5002-A blocks.
For get about res, i recommend using T-line .

I will post my dual cooling (just like the specs you listed) at the end of the day. I'm kind of busy and hopefully i can get it done to night.

[Raider84]

well if you did use a res, you could just have the four return hoses go directly to the res. And just have a single outlet through a Y to the cpus.
If you were using the tc-4s just have the outlet from one block go to the inlet of the other. Yeah you would lose some performance but your tubing wouldnt be outa control.

[afireinside]

Get maze4 SHDs or something. Run from the pump to the heater core than the CPU closer to the gfx card than that block to the higher up one than the higher up block to the gfx block than to a tsplit than into your pump. Your gona want a high power pump or like two or something. I'm not sure how using two changes pressure or anything though.

[sandman001]

I would go with a maze3 or maze 4 with the clip on socket atachment.

[stevensonjustin]

Ok guys, you are giving me some great help here.

This is what i'm gathering so far.

I will go with the dragon full tower case unless someone else has a better one to recommend.

Now that I know that the WW's won't work on that board, I am looking at the Maze4 SHP's. I'm still looking at 1/2" ID tubing for this project and I think I'll have enough room in the case that space will not be an issue. If anyone thinks that the 1/2" ID is still a bad idea, let me know and your reasons for it to help me better understand the issue.

Now, with those 2 changes in place I am leaning on the side of getting a more powerful pump than the Ehiem 1250. I am currently looking at a Mag 3, do you guys think that this would be a good bet?

Once again, I'd like to really thank everyone for their input, I knew I could count on the people on these boards.

[MameXP]

I DO still think 1/2" is a bad idea. I gues you dont have the board in front of you. But the 2 CPUs are damn close together.

Hmm i like the reliability of Ehiem, so that what i would go for.
DAMN my dual doesnt quite qork yet
but atleast my watercooling setup is done :D. When i get my dual work i will insttall the setup and let you know :D

EDIT* you can still use 1/2"ID but not 1/8" wall. SO you think you have to use 1/2"ID with 1/16" wall

[BeerHunter]

Go to petsmart/petco and pickup a mag 3 test it and see if you're satisfied by it's noise level. since you hav'nt said what you're into water cooling for I assume both OCing and noise. You may find this pump to loud. But I'm totally in it for noise levels and I'm a freak so Eheim is the only option. I have heard guys say the iwaki is very quiet and will provide awesome flow... but you're pushing mid 150$ depending which you get..the MD15RL(z)T or MD20RL(z)T. but that's still a good option.. with that said the mag is awesome price/performance ...performance being it smokes everything under $100 in flow.

Get the swiftechs since your mobo seems to be a problem...They look awesome, preform awesome (see reviews on main site), have a rep in this forum and are angled in/outakes makes tube coordination a dream.

[afireinside]

How much louder is a mag3 than a Eheim 1250?
My petsmart doesent have them anyway :(

[sandman001]

I would go with the mag3. I would also run 1/2"Id tubing, but I would get the good stuff. Tygon. Then I would put it in generally the shape you want, and dip it in hot water for a while to kind of form it to that shape.

[Giblet Plus!]

I think you could make 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing work with a little creativity.

I would ditch the bayres, it will just make the setup messier. You should just run 3/4" ID tubing from the big outlet on the 2-342 to the inlet of your pump instead, then tap the top of the core for filling purposes.

[MameXP]

STILL AGAINST 1/2". You guys dont know, i tried its not SAFE for the block. The tubing will push too much force on the block and its a pain in the ass to mount it right . I tried it with Maze3s w/ socket hold down. (1/2" ID 1/8" wall clearFlex tubing)

SO with Swiftech blocks, you can use 3/8" anyway.

Thats my .02 . Btw, my dual working fine now. 2.4ghz x2 ;) its a killer. I will get water on tmr as i'm too tired to go on.
Cheers

ps. oh yeah thats dual overclocked is on air (crappy HSFs too). Full load is 56c :p, damn! am i happy? :D