P3 1Ghz failing not O/C'd

[Heyou]

Just purchased an OEM P3 1Ghz FC-PGA, fitted my trusty Golden Orb cooler, Not O/C'ing yet !! so std. speeds set in BIOS. PC boots OK but it fails in 3D graphics games. My 600e O/C/d to 800 was really stable?

CPU details :-
Intel 01 Costa Rica 1000/256/133/1.75v
3118A152-0528 SL52R

Do these numbers tell me anything? 1.75v I thought the P3 FC-PGA was supossed to be 1.7v ?

ASUS CUSL2, 512Mb Crucial Micron CAS2 133 SDRAM, GeForce256 DDR not O/C'd

thanks in advance.

[Kingslayer]

I'm wondering if your getting too hot because of the Orb. Other than a software issue that is coming from bad video drivers and the game bringing it out, that's all I can thing of.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

Orbs are fine for stock systems........slightly better than OEM sinks. Don't keep it if you're going to OC that rig tho.......I'd recommend the FOP32 or the Glaciator.

Did you reinstall the OS or just replace the chip?

[Pinky]

Shadow ÒÓ (Jun 22, 2001 11:37 a.m.):
Orbs are fine for stock systems........slightly better than OEM sinks. Don't keep it if you're going to OC that rig tho.......I'd recommend the FOP32 or the Glaciator.

Did you reinstall the OS or just replace the chip?

I've been studying for a windows 2000 exam lately (yuk, now I know why I stopped going to college) and learned that windows 2000 (at least) requires a reinstall for detecting a second CPU in a dual system (contrary to what I've read elsewhere, I trust Coriolis more than Joe Schmo Techie .com anyday)... it seems to reason windows works in conjunction in some secretive behind-the-Microsoft-scenes way... I have noticed that when upgrading, nearly always, I have to reinstall within days because I start getting some funky errors... but I reinstall every few weeks anyway because of my tinkering!.. hmm, nevermind -- this end user needs and upgrade.

So, the long to short, Shadow's suggestion has some technical merit; it's not just a tinkerer's "I don't know what else to say" response... well, I'm not saying that anyway...

[gdog]

We installed a second cpu on a friends computer, and you dont need to reinstall the os.
His has been running stabily for months now.
Personally i would have just bought a new board and a mobo, but he wanted duals.

[Placid]

You got a cD0 stepping cpu you lucky dog.
1.75 is the correct vcore for that stepping.
Maybe your system is crashing in 3d because the information is moving faster than before and you need to tweak some of your bios settings.

[Pinky]

Placid (Jun 22, 2001 02:03 p.m.):
You got a cD0 stepping cpu you lucky dog.
1.75 is the correct vcore for that stepping.
Maybe your system is crashing in 3d because the information is moving faster than before and you need to tweak some of your bios settings.

I didn't even see that!.. SL5..

Dunno that it would require a mobo mod though. You memory should be fine, too.

As for the dual procs, I should've stated that a reinstall is recommended by Coriolis (I think I said this correctly); again, if your friend's fine, kudos.

[Lancelot]

ok, if it's a cDO it's a good bet he needs a BIOS update to get stable?!

[FrankMasterFlash]

You need BIOS update like Lancelot said. When I had a Celeron 600 cC0 in my P3B-F it always locked up in windows 2000 in about 30 sec. When I got a BIOS update for it it solved all of my problems. If the newest BIOS update at the Asus website doesn't fix it look for the newest beta bios at www.asuscom.de(I think it's in dutch but it isn't that hard to find. Its mostly in english.)

[Heyou]

Hey..wow...Thanks for all the interesting comments and suggestions guys, i feel quite humbled by your support !!

So I need to upgrade my cooler!! I shall check out these chilly friends "FOP32 or the Glaciator" thanks Kingslayer, Shadow . The "Asus probe" tells me that the CPU is at 50c/122f with the M/B at 34c/93f and that doing no more than just playing web radio mp3 at 128k stream. No I hadn't done an O/S re-build Pinky, but I was just about to....really !!

I hoped that someone would recognise these markings so I've got cD0 stepping! pphhoooarr!! I take from your remarks, Placid, Pinky, that it's good!!!. That makes a nice change, every CPU I've bought in the past to O/C was always the rev. prior to the good one that everyone else talked about.

Asus BIOS 1006a. There is a 1008 Beta posted on the Asus site thanks Lancelot, FrankMasterFlash but haven't tried it coz it won't d/l from the Asus site and that made me feel too nervous to try and find it elswhere..

So new install on a new drive and fingers crossed all seems to be OK at the moment. Early days yet though only the sound, video & DX8 drivers loaded so far...so plenty of scope to screw it up along the way but my fav. game GPL runs ok and 3DMark2000 looping never hangs so!! is that what it needed?? But the 3d mark is down buy 10% ?? All the latest drivers installed for the SB, DX8, Detonator3 v12.41,

Forgot to mention that I run Win98se, I kept it there ever since finding out that Win2K didn't have all drivers I needed and it gave a nasty 3D hit. I use the PC for music,surfing and gaming, nothing serious about me just hedonistic pastimes. As was suggested I also thought that I'd better rebuild Win98se from scratch so I got an IBM 75GXP 76Gb for the job. As has been mentioned you need to re-build it every six months or so coz of all the tweaking and messing about I do too, mum used to say "it'll never heal if you keep picking at it" but I can't resist it.

Thanks again all, I knew I'd come to the right place.


Asus CUSL2, Intel P3 FC-PGA 1Ghz
512mb Crucial Micron CAS2 133
GeForce256DDR
SBL Platinum
Netgear Ethernet
512 Cable modem
Promise Fastrack66 Raid + 2 x Fujitsu 20Gb
Plextor 12/12/32a

[outhouse]

Just out of curiousity what kind of thermal compound are you using, 50C is way to hot for a 1gig some say 60C is max and another site says 70C is max to me this means that some do fail at 60C and by what you have told us your running at idle speeds which means if you play games your putting your CPU at risk, personaly I would shutdown your PC and lapp the heatsink and get some good thermal compound on it, if you do not want to wait for arctic silver-2 go out and get some thermal compound at radio shack, this will bring temps down quite a bit exspecialy the lapping as orbs bottom's are known not to be the flatest. Also from what you have stated your case temps are too high, I highly recomend that you get atleast 2 case fans one blowing air in and one blowing hot air out just having cooler air in your case will help allot to get those CPU temps in operating conditions as it is now your putting your CPU at risk

goodluck

[Heyou]

Right since looking at all the replies I've ordered a ThermalRight SK6 with the YS-Tech fan, coz of the noise issue with the Delta fans and some Arctic Silver II plus a couple of 80mm YS-Tech case fans.

Until this lot arrives I've decided to underclock it to 750Mhz. This lot has now cost a bundle more than if i'd just ordered the retail version of the CPU with the stock HS&F, still that's life, live and hopefully learn.

Thanks for all the info.

[Kingslayer]

Pinky,

Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to reinstall windows to get it to detect your second CPU. If you go to your device manager, and under system, you will see it says Uni-processor in there, update the drivers to Multi=Processor system and you've just upgraded the kernel.

I have done comparisons on my system with a fresh install and a kernel update. All benchmarks we're within 5% of each other. I would say that it's effective.

[Pinky]

Kingslayer (Jun 27, 2001 08:42 p.m.):
Pinky,

Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to reinstall windows to get it to detect your second CPU. If you go to your device manager, and under system, you will see it says Uni-processor in there, update the drivers to Multi=Processor system and you've just upgraded the kernel.

I'm not hearing it... :)

I'm studying for a W2K Pro cert exam, and I need to learn it the way microsoft wants me too...

But I'm sure you're right, makes sense at least; won't know for sure unless I reinstall with one proc and add the other...

[ebola]

after you finish that exam pinky, forget everything bill told you because its probably filled with BUGS like his os.