BH-6 timings and others q's

[brock8503]

Hello everyone i finally registered , got a paid email for the hell of it. This community is so helpful i had to be a part of it.

Ok let me get to the point .i recently bought a new system.
Barton 2500 locked (shuda gone mobile)@ 200fsb 1.8v
w/slk-900a tornado 90m
nf7-s rev2
mushkin '222' bh-6
radeon 9800 pro
40 wd 8mb
120 wd 8mb
burner
dvd

I got a couple of questions. I would like to know what some of your guy's bh-6 timings are, since thats the only good speed mem out there unless u get lucky.

Also i cant seem to hit anything over 200 @ 222 11 or 6 with 2.9. i memtest 200 @ 22211 for 22 hrs with no errors. i did get 2 errors at 420 and 425 2.9v in 12hr memtest run. so u think i hit the wall?

If so do u think i should get mobile and stay @ 200 but mess with multi. thanks for the advice and timings.

glad to be a part of the crew,
brock8503

[johan851]

It could be your motherboard - it can be tricky so squeeze all of the FSB potential out of the NF7's, especially the newer ones. The reason for your wall could also be processor overclocking. Since 11x220 = 2420, it's quite possible that your CPU would hit a wall before the memory did.

That's sounds about right for BH-6 though. BH-6 overclocks very well, probably about even with BH-5 on average, if not a little less. It's not uncommon to hear of BH-6 outperforming BH-5 either. I had a stick of BH-6 that did 230MHz 2-2-2-11 @ 2.9v on the NF7-S, though in single channel.

[brock8503]

hey thanks for the reply

now i understand what ur saying that it could be the proc, and it does take a lot of vcore to get it stable.
Does the proc effect memtest in any way?
and i only got a 217 on the mem and i got errors 2 in a12 hr run
is that normal to get an error or is the memory limited b/c i thought bh-6 were supposed oc very well with more voltage.
and if thats the case that my mem only likes 200 should i get the mobile and just up the multis

[brock8503]

any one want to give me there bh-6 timings and suggestions?????

[NoteUser]

Originally posted by brock8503
any one want to give me there bh-6 timings and suggestions?????

Look:D

[brock8503]

so i tested 215 in 12hr memtest and got 2 errors on test 4 at 11 2 2 2 with 2.9v does this mean they wont run at that speed. Is it even worth testin at 205~210 because its not much of an increase in performance?

[NoteUser]

How did you figure 11-2-2-2, they are known to run 2-2-2-5.

I was refering to my sig since you asked!

[wannaoc]

From what I understand BH-6 uses alot of voltages to equal its bigger BH-5 brother. If you are hitting a wall try and really up the voltages. I would expect 2,2,2,X at 220 at least though.

[NoteUser]

It seems that Mushkins users need more juice for some reason.

11-2-2-2 doesn`t seem right to me but it could be an AMD thing or something else.

[brock8503]

Yea about the 11 2 2 2 its supposed to be that fastest timing on nforce2, but i get the same bw at 6 2 2 2 , havent tested 5 2 2 2, but i read somewhere where 11 or 6 is faster.

I did find out what the problem was one of the sticks i have is a dud and wont run over 200 fsb. im testing the other stick at 220 11 2 2 2 2.9 its just past the 20 hr mark so i think im good
i goin to test the dud one by its self and see if i can get any errors at the rated specs, i had it at 2.8 when i did the dually test at 200 11 2 2 2, i think they rated to run at 2.6~2.7 so if this stick causes errors than i get to rma it, and hopefully get new pair. if not ill buy another stick and test my luck. hehe.
im also looking into some bh-5 on ebay just might get a pair and sell these.

well thats all i got
peace, brock8503.

[eMpAtHy112]

ur running a 2500@3200 on 1.8volts..that really high voltages..my 2500 runs 11x205 at 1.74 stable..and when i raise it up to 1.8..i can run it at 210x11 stable..

[brock8503]

yea i havent had enough time to mess with what vcore is the lowest possible stable voltage, but ive read that some proc need more than others. The nf7 s undervolt so 1.8 is like ~1.77 or so. i have been tryin to figure what was causing the instability and i feel confident that it was the one bum stick of ram. the one good one just past 24hr memtest @220 11 2 2 2 so no i got the proc at 2.4g (with 256 only) at 2.0v ~1.97 but i too have notice that it does need a little more vcore to get there. hmm dunno?

(ut2003 time)
brock8503

[brock8503]

well ive been testing the dud stick and i get errors all over the place at 2.6v, BUT not at 2.7v. im ****ed. do u think that newegg would still take it back (rma). they said the chips should run 2.5~2.7. and my wont run anythin under 2.7. Im not sure if thats consider a repair/bad chip or not. got any ideas??

[dippy_skoodlez]

Originally posted by brock8503
well ive been testing the dud stick and i get errors all over the place at 2.6v, BUT not at 2.7v. im ****ed. do u think that newegg would still take it back (rma). they said the chips should run 2.5~2.7. and my wont run anythin under 2.7. Im not sure if thats consider a repair/bad chip or not. got any ideas??

If its advertised as 222mhz, and poops out on you at that speed with stock voltages, its called an RMA ;)

[brock8503]

its ddr3200

[brock8503]

do u guys think that my ram is bad if at stock speeds it errors all over the place at 2.6v but does not at 2.7? it should be able to run at all the stock volts 2.5~2.7. think it could be rma'ed

[Speed_Mechanic2]

Alot of BH-5/6 memory will error above 200MHz w/ tRCD set to 2 when vDIMM is low. 2.6V is a low vDIMM.

It's a possible excuse for a RMA, if your looking for one, but it isn't a reason to RMA, at least IMO. If your upset over your memory's ability to clock high with tight timings when giving max vDIMM (2.8V for some boards w/o mods) then you may be looking for an RMA. But it isn't likely that you will find something (if anything) much better - and that would be a reason not to RMA.

[brock8503]

well speed your absolutely right. i tested the other stick that was the good one at 2.6v and bam error city. o well.

i totally understand what ur saying speed. The big problem is that i got the bug THE OC BUG hehe and i want both to do 220 easily. i dont think that newegg will take the excuse that the ram errors at 2.6 therefore making it a bad stick b/c both the bad and good one did. i might just waste some money and buy another stick and try to get lucky. Thx for the advice i really appreciate it.

L8ter guys, brock8503:)

[TheTick]

have you tried to relax the timings. Try going to 11-3-3-2.5, that should make it run stable up to 220

[NoteUser]

Originally posted by TheTick
have you tried to relax the timings. Try going to 11-3-3-2.5, that should make it run stable up to 220

It should run 222 anyway.

[TheTick]

It might need some more volts to get there though ... at least it was the case with my ASUS

[brock8503]

i dont want to relax the timings b/c i not looking for that i want 2 2 2 and the one stick will do that. The nf7s only gives 2.9 and it errors at that so im just goin to buy another stick.

thx for the thoughts.
brock8503